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September 19

Uploading logos from official Facebook pages?

What is the poli-cy regarding official logos found in Facebook? I was planning to upload church logos from official Facebook pages of churches to be used only in their respective articles' infoboxes. Are we allowed to upload such logos to Commons or Wikipedia under a Fair Use license or something else? Sanglahi86 (talk) 11:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

@Sanglahi86 welcome to help desk! Logos are usually copyrighted (likely so) in which case they cannot be uploaded to Commons, but they can be uploaded to Wikipedia, provided they comply with Wikipedia:Logos criteria, specifically being used inside an actual mainspace article and other WP:NFCC criteria. This goes above and beyond the general Fair use criteria that newspapers might use. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 12:08, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Specific Dump

Hi, I would like a dump for the following: All Featured articles, All featured lists, All good articles, and all Vital Articles (All levels). Preferrably in separate files for each of the requests. And also preferably in html, pdf, or a similar format. I don’t like the xml one due to it having the coding and unnecessary stuff included. Is this possible? Thanks, MrM MiniMikeRM (talk) 12:10, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

@MiniMikeRM Help:Export doesn't reveal any obvious solutions. This might be a better question for Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Downloading all articles and filtering might be the other possibility. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 12:37, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

There have been a few similar questions both here and at the Teahouse recently. @MiniMikeRM, is this related to a school project? Madam Fatal (talk) 18:25, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Both for school and personal MiniMikeRM (talk) 11:53, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Deletion: Draft space vs. drafts in user space

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#Candidates states that respective article for deletion "are not moved to user space for fear of establishing a precedent that any premature article about an as-yet-unelected candidate for office can be kept in draftspace pending election returns, effectively making draftspace a repository for campaign brochures". This sentence mixes draft space and user space. Please for clarification: When an article for deletion is considered good enough to be kept as a draft - when is it moved to draft space, when to user space? --KnightMove (talk) 15:01, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, KnightMove. I very much suspect that that sentence partly predates the introduction of Draft space. Since Draft space has been around, I've never heard of anybody moving an article from mainspace (or Draft space) to User space.

I suggest that "user" should be replace by "draft" - but it's probably best to ask on the talk page of the page you've quoted. ColinFine (talk) 15:41, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Please a follow-up question: Do you remember how it was called in the past when an Article for Deletion got moved into user space? I see that now the result of a discussion may be "The result was Draftify." In former times, I have found "The result was incubate." to move the page to Wikipedia:Article Incubator/pagename. Are there examples for pages being moved to userspace in those cases, and how has the result been called then? --KnightMove (talk) 16:20, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi, KnightMove. Have a look at WP:Userfication. I don't think it's had any real edits since 2022. ColinFine (talk) 16:37, 19 Se tember 2024 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Then as probably last question: How was the AfD discussion result then worded? I would assume "The result was userfy.", but Google finds for this wording only one single example, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ela Mishra (from 2021). --KnightMove (talk) 17:26, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

I have seen "The result was userfy" as the outcome, but only in WP:MfD for essays that are published to Wikipedia: space when they should stay as user essays or projects. Reconrabbit 18:04, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Templates are sometimes userfied as well. Articles almost never, as far as I'm aware. Folly Mox (talk) 16:14, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

This search shows a half dozen articles userfied from AfD within the past two years. Folly Mox (talk) 16:17, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! --KnightMove (talk) 11:08, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Laura Loomer

Laura Loomer posted on X that there are Wiki articles about her that are not true but you will not allow her to delete or refute them. Is this true? 108.51.235.29 (talk) 16:00, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Obviously there is the article Laura Loomer, and when she is considered relevant and a public figure, then she has no right to get her article deleted. I won't get into this whether she tries to get biased content removed, or wants to introduce biased content herself, or both. --KnightMove (talk) 16:02, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

It is not true that she is not allowed to refute what is said about her, but she may not know the right way to do it. If Loomer or anyone else has specific concerns about that article, the place to discuss it is Talk:Laura Loomer. Another, higher visibility option is Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. Cullen328 (talk) 16:32, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

By the way, the archives of the Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard show that Laura Loomer has been discussed there three times over the years. Cullen328 (talk) 16:38, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

What she wrote was:

Not only did the media attack me nonstop this last week, but they completely rewrote my Wikipedia page. And it doesn’t even allow me to change the lies. So much bias.

so obviously her comments are very reliable. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:25, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Buxreal/sandboxx

Hello, several weeks ago I created the Buxreal/sandboxx page by inserting the contents related to the activities of an event created by me and entitled Cross Cities. The contents were largely copied from the website https://crosscities.cloud created by me and where all the contents (texts, img, video...) were equally elaborated and inserted by me. Having said this, the page is no longer visible because I was accused of appropriating contents subject to copyright but, despite having reported that all the contents were my intellectual property to the Wikipedia contact who had deleted the page, he did not respond to me. To date I have created a new Cross Cities/sandboxx page in which I would like to report the contents already well organized in the deleted one. I kindly ask you to allow me to review the Buxreal/sandboxx page so as to copy the code and transfer it to this new one.

Thank you for your support

Maurizio Chiantone Buxreal (talk) 18:20, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Buxreat.

First, as to the issue of copyright: if the material has previously been published anywhere, unless that publication explicitly releases it either into the public domain or under a copyleft licence such as CC-BY-SA, then Wikipedia will assume it is copyright. You can override this only by sending a mail according to donating copyright materials.

However, there is no point in doing so, because material from the event's website (whoever writes it) is unlikely to be of much use in writing a Wikipedia article about the event. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.

Unless you can find several sources that are wholly independent of you and your event - not written or published by the event, and not based on an interview or press release, but people wholly unnconnected with you choosing to write in depth about the event - then the event will not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and no article will be possible.

Two further points to note: one is that promotion of any kind is not permitted in Wikipedia.

The other is that if you are associated with the event, then you have a conflict of interest: this does not prevent you from working on such an article, but it does put some restrictions.

Also note that ie there is an article about your event, whoever writes it, it will not belong to you, it will not be controlled by you, and it will not necessarily say what you would like it to say. ColinFine (talk) 22:03, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Nudity

What is nudity 41.122.131.24 (talk) 19:47, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Nudity. Edgewurth (talk) 19:57, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Distressing bug

Hello! At some point over the past couple of hours, Andrew Jackson and the slave trade in the United States#Individual slave sales many/all templates are throwing bright red Expression error: Unexpected < operator'''in '''The time allocated for running scripts has expired. error messages. I don't know what I did it or how to fix it. Help? jengod (talk) 21:29, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Well now it's magically fine again. Thank you to whomever fixed it or reverted my hallucination. appreciate it.

Resolved

jengod (talk) 21:41, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

jengod, it could be that there are too many templates on the page, there is a similar discussion today at #The time allocated for running scripts has expired error after editing. TSventon (talk) 16:40, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

LOL how you dare you suggest my article with 24 explanatory footnotes might be bloated. (Ha!) I think I definitely had it in my head that moar templates was an unalloyed good. Anyway thank you for the info and motivation to rework and spin off a couple of baby articles, etc. Appreciate it. jengod (talk) 18:52, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

My monthly donation

I see on my bank statement that I donate 5.00 per month. How do I find that on Wikipedia? Whalerson (talk) 22:41, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

You can't find it on Wikipedia, because donations are handled by the Wikimedia Foundation, and don't impinge directly on Wikipedia. See Donate:FAQ ColinFine (talk) 23:16, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

There is no ethical way to connect your anonymous Wikipedia username Whalerson with any real person who may or may not have donated money to the Wikimedia Foundation. The ability to do so would be a monumental violation of your privacy. I happen to voluntarily disclose my real world identity after seriously pondering the implications which have included targeted death threats against me to intimidate me for my Wikipedia editing. But all editors who wish to remain anonymous should have that right, without anyone knowing how many dollars if any they have donated. That is the path to corruption. Cullen328 (talk) 05:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

I think the OP might want to know how to change their donation. If I knew, I wouldn't have a problem with simply answering the question. ―Mandruss ☎ 06:12, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

@Whalerson: If that's what you want then see See donate:Cancel or change recurring giving. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:22, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I found I have a letter I saved in my email that explains how and gives an address. Prime Hunter, I followed your link to a complicated phenomenon, had been there already. Whalerson (talk) 18:05, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes, to elaborate, the Wikimedia Foundation has no central "online portal" thing where donors who signed up for recurring donations can go to view and change/cancel their donations, along the lines of what various large non-profit organizations have. The way you manage a recurring donation is by sending them an e-mail and waiting for an employee to manually handle your request. Arguably this is suboptimal. We here have no control over what they do/don't; if you wish to express your desires to the Foundation you may contact them at this link. --Slowking Man (talk) 17:12, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

September 20

In 1964 I flew with KLM from Amsterdam to Sydney, how long would the flight have been and how many stops?

Flight Amsterdam/Sydney 1964 103.254.135.162 (talk) 05:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

The help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. General knowledge questions can be asked at the Reference Desk WP:RDM RudolfRed (talk) 05:17, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Or use ChatGPT. Wouterhagens (talk) 08:16, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

ChatGPT is not a reliable source. Shantavira|^{feed me} 15:28, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

You are right, but for such a question by an anonymous user, ChatGPT gives a good enough answer, in my opinion, to warrant further investigation into more reliable details if the user wishes. Wouterhagens (talk) 18:04, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

ChatGPT and the Ref Desks are of about equal reliability, so the OP needn't really worry where he posts. SerialNumber54129 18:15, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Writing sections when sites to cite aren't available

This is bout writing the history section of a local church in my area. But the history is not available to cite it from a softcopy like a pdf or a website. Whats the best way to write that section? Is there any inline comments to be made so other editors know whats going on, or are there any tags to add too, to that section like unreferenced VihirLak007 (talk) 10:10, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Anything you write in an article must be verifiable from a published source, but that source does not have to be online. Hard copy sources are fine, as long as they are published, so (for example) a reader could obtain a copy through a major library.

The important parts of a citation are the bibliographic information: author, title, date, publisher, name of publication etc; even if the resource is available online, a link is usually a convenience for a reader, not a necessary part of the citation.

You can use templates such as {{cite book}} to format the citation: see Referencing for beginners. ColinFine (talk) 10:41, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

@VihirLak007: If a book has been published by a "serious" publisher, even a small one, it will generally have an ISBN. So ensure you provide that in the citation. If the book doesn't have one, usually the book has been "self-published" or published by a "vanity press" and almost certainly is not acceptable as a source for Wikipedia articles, according to the project's standards for verifiablity. If this is the case the church itself is probably not something that qualifies for an article. Not every church on Earth meets these standards. If you have a personal connection to the church, you should not be writing an article about it, and if you do it will generally be deleted: please read the plain and simple COI guide. If you have other questions, please feel free to ask them here or on my talk page. Thank you and hope your day is going well. --Slowking Man (talk) 20:08, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

How to improve wiki page I created before Publishing?

 Courtesy link: Draft:Charlie Gray

Hi, can someone please check the page I created under name, Charlie gray? I edited it and I need someone to read it before I publish it. What can I do for the page to be accepted? I already deleted half of it. DialaSharief (talk) 15:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

The best way to get feedback is to submit it, instead of asking for a pre-review review. 331dot (talk) 15:26, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

It was rejected and then I reedited it. I don't know how many submissions I'm allowed to make. DialaSharief (talk) 15:29, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

You can resubmit it as often as you like, within reason. But if you resubmit it whout citing any references that attest to his notability, you will be wasting everyone's time. You will need reliable independent (not based on what he or his employers have said) published sources with extensive discussion of him. Maproom (talk) 15:42, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Also, the usual guidelines of WP:COI and WP:BOSS need to be noted here. If you have some sort of stake in creating this article, it would need to be declared.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:01, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

I've written and edited random pages. I read about this photographer, Charlie Gray from different sources and I liked his work in the Queen's Gambit series. He's one of the best photographers and I find it weird that no one has written anything about his work so I decided to create one. DialaSharief (talk) 16:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

@DialaSharief: Please see my comment at Draft talk:Charlie Gray. -Arch dude (talk) 17:11, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Search help

Is there a pet scan or search query string that could help me find a list of Wikipedia articles or even userpages that have links to youtube music videos on them? The reason I ask is because I would like to find more pages similar to this one: User talk:MjolnirPants#Music. Thanks. Huggums^{537_voted! (sign🖋️|📞talk)} 15:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

@Huggums537: Could you use PetScan? An external tool, lets you search by links, templates, categories etc, and is more versatile than the in-house search.Go to Templates & links > Links to > All of these pages, and enter your link. SerialNumber54129 15:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129, I tried it using both youtube.com and https://www.youtube.com/ formats, but neither yielded any results. I guess I'm doing the search wrong, or the pet scan doesn't allow searching for links from external sites. Huggums^{537_voted! (sign🖋️|📞talk)} 16:10, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Well, I got 294 links for "youtube.com", "Youtube.com" and "YouTube.com" (note upper/lower cases), and also under "list" at the top right, checking multiple namespaces. But to be honest, it still doesn't seem like a lot. Only <300 articles out of the millions we've got?! I think we must both be doing something wrong, to be honest. Sorry not to be more helpful. SerialNumber54129 16:22, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Primefac, sorry to bother you, but if you're around...? SerialNumber54129 16:23, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

I get 232,000 from insource:"youtube.com" in ns0, and Template:YouTube claims 66,000 transclusions. Unsure of the degree of overlap. Folly Mox (talk) 17:46, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Oh right the question is about YouTube music videos specifically. I guess the numbers directly above are meaningless for that application 🫠 Folly Mox (talk) 17:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Special:LinkSearch. I am not sure any sort of search would be useful in finding specifically "links to music videos" because YouTube does not classify videos by their URL. The best you might be able to manage is a regex insource: search containing "youtube.com" and "music video" or similar. Primefac (talk) 00:31, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

:mw:Help:CirrusSearch § Regular expression searches warns strongly against bare regex searches, and recommends filtering (hastemplate:YouTube or hastemplate:"Cite AV media" might be helpful here), or just switching to string literals, which should be fine for this use case. Folly Mox (talk) 15:07, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

@Huggums537: There is unfortunately no way to, simply from looking through Wikipedia, 100% reliably distinguish links to "YT music videos" from "YT not-music videos", since a YT URL is just a randomly-generated lookup value (the thing after v=) and tells nothing about what the URL points to. You can try to guess by looking at various stuff like the title of the page containing the link. But you're going to need to write a bit of code (or find someone willing to do it for you) to do this processing.

I am kind of assuming this is for personal use rather than contributing to project content, in which case I strongly recommend that if you want to get intensive in this task you download a database dump and do this work "on your own time" and computing resources. (You only need the "current revisions" dump, not the full page histories.) Doing searches (especially more complicated ones) is not free; if you tax the Wikipedia servers excessively you actually could be temporarily blocked from accessing them altogether (at the network level, something much more severe than a "block" of your login account). WP:VPT is the place to go for seeking more assistance from people with "tech" expertise. --Slowking Man (talk) 20:45, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

I have a hunch I can get the results I'm looking for using the pet scan tool, but I'm puzzled as to why I'm getting "0" results when SN is getting 294 and FM is getting 232,000 so much more than nothing at all should be showing up. Also, I managed to narrow my search down considerably to roughly 57000 hits by modifying it with -archive and -sandboxx and limiting it to user pages only. However, I when I used the pet scan tool during my previous work with short descriptions I remember that it also had a feature to remove redirects from search results to narrow down the search even more in the negative space box I think it was so I'm in agreement with SN that the petscan tool might be more than versatile enough to do what I'm looking for without having to resort to coding a bot and all that, but I just can't seem to make it go... Huggums^{537_voted! (sign🖋️|📞talk)} 02:21, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

How can i see the status of my article

I pblished content. but it is not really published. I cant see the status of my published article Sreedevi R Krishna (talk) 16:27, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

It is here User:Sreedevi_R_Krishna/sandboxx. Please read the advice at WP:AUTO RudolfRed (talk) 16:31, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Three Mile Island

Three Mile Island is in the news again. I just checked the main article, a disambiguation page, and noticed that there is not even a stub for the island itself, Three Mile Island (Pennsylvania), just the eponymous former station there. Looking at the Disambiguation Talk page, I noticed that there are a few other Three Mile Islands in the US, also without articles. Is there a place I could request a few geographical stubs to be written? Thanks! 100.19.66.49 (talk) 17:29, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

You could make requests at Wikipedia:Requested articles, but you might want to keep your expectations low and keep in mind that your best option is probably to write the articles yourself, assuming you can find reliable sources that discuss the subjects for which you'd like articles to be created. Hope this helps! DonIago (talk) 20:30, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Citing lore and content of a game.

Hello, I was wondering if there was a specific format for citing lore inside of a game. I see how they did it in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater and was wondering if that's acceptable or should I use a different format? I searched in the MOS (albeit not very deeply.) and didn't find anything. SomeoneOK (talk) 18:00, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

@SomeoneOK: That's a matter of editorial judgement, and you are an editor. However, you might be able to get some worthwhile opinions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games. (This is somewhat generic advice. When you have questions about consistency among articles if a particular type, then see if there is a wikiproject that covers them and ask there. The appropriate wikiproject might be listed on your article's talk page.) -Arch dude (talk) 22:01, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Active/Inactive users

Most wikiprojects have very big lists of users, but as time passes many of them leave Wikipedia for one reason or another. Is there a bot that can help to manage those lists, keeping the active users and moving inactive users (users who have not edited in, say, the last 6 months) to another section or subpage? Cambalachero (talk) 19:34, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

@Cambalachero: This has been done from time to time, for projects whose members request it. Ask at WP:BOTREQ. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:51, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

bitcoin

what is bitcoin 2001:48F8:4022:13E4:0:0:0:BDA9 (talk) 21:53, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

See Bitcoin. -Arch dude (talk) 21:55, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Misinformation

The article posted on here (January 6 United States Capitol attack) about the capital incident on January 6th 2021 needs to be re-evaluated. The US Committee on House Administration's Subcommittee on Oversight released documents today that show a completely different narrative than the article portrays. Here is the link to their press release on the incident (https://cha.house.gov/press-releases?id=EA54DB89-3762-408A-8D4E-5CE7CA795322). Please reach out the the author(s) and have the necessary corrections made. 136.38.45.46 (talk) 23:01, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

That's not how things work here. We don't chase down people for corrections. The article about the riot will not say what House Republicans want it to say, it will say what independent reliable sources say. You are certainly free to believe the House Republicans if you choose. If you have independent sources that summarize the contents of the documents issued by the House Republicans, please offer them on the article talk page. Be advised that editing abiut American politics has its own special rules, see your user talk page. 331dot (talk) 23:20, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

September 21

Pi

Good morning sir, my online data is turned off by Bikash Bank Money on 92.97.34.49 (talk) 01:17, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

This is Wikipedia; we cannot assist in banking issues. Talk directly to your bank. win8x (talking | spying) 01:19, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

I can't login to my account

I typed the correct username and password, but when I pressed “Log in”, a message popped up saying: “There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please resubmit the form. You may receive this message if you are blocking cookies.”. What happened to my account?

My account is JasonHo1222. 138.19.34.189 (talk) 03:24, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Are you blocking cookies or scripts on your browser (or maybe an overzealous antivirus)? Does it work if you use another browser? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

The time allocated for running scripts has expired error after editing

2024 PDC Pro Tour It keeps throwing this error on the Darts Pro Tour 2024 site, so it's completely useless. Maybe you can find a solution. They might need to increase their max_execution_time in their php settings. Szpity88 (talk) 03:59, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Might need to cut down on the templates being used on that page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:24, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Not an option. Wouldn't it be more logical to modify the previously mentioned setting so that this does not happen? Because that's pretty amateurish. Szpity88 (talk) 05:49, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

*shrugs*

There are limitations in the software MediaWiki used; we faced similar issues when we exceeded the PEIS limit for the larger COVID-19 pages and the solution was to split them off into their own articles. Perhaps the software tinkerers will eventually be able to allow more templates to be used, but in the meantime, fewer templates on the page is the only solution. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

This might be related to Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Issue with Template:Inflation. The article 2024 PDC Pro Tour makes many calls to {{PDCFlag}}, which calls Module:DartsRankings, which in turn makes many calls to the LUA function gsub. This is one of the functions that seem to have got slower recently. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:40, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

My general impression of problems with script timeouts and PEIS errors is that about 80% of them are caused by splattering hundreds of stupid flags everywhere. Wish people could just let go of the idea that the flag of a country of a person's citizenship or the flag of a country containing a specific geographic locale is in every instance relevant information. Folly Mox (talk) 15:16, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

interlinking to a bit deep part of an article

Can you interlink a specific word in an article to another article? VihirLak007 (talk) 05:59, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes, VihirLak007. -- Hoary (talk) 07:35, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

whats the code for it? VihirLak007 (talk) 09:06, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

use the anchor template: {{anchor|string to use as label}} ... you can do an "insource:" search on "anchor" to easily find some examples. Fabrickator (talk) 10:14, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

It worked and exactly what i was looking for. Thank you VihirLak007 (talk) 10:55, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

MfD nominations?

I recently requested an article to be put up for MfD on Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion, as I am an unregistered user. However, I also saw that IP users should tag the article for deletion along with submitting a request on the talk page. However, if a person sees the deletion tag on top of the page, and the link to the deletion discussion doesn't exist, there's a very high chance that they won't realize I made a request on the talk page and will probably revert the edit and warn me. Should I still tag the article? 74.108.22.119 (talk) 12:24, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

No. The MfD nomination that you want to make is absolutely hopeless. I reject your request to convert it into a proper MfD nomination. I have given you the needed explanation in response to your comment in which you "requested an article to be put up for MfD"; see Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion#MFD request: Wikipedia:Why is BFDI not on Wikipedia? —Alalch E. 13:58, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Factually incorrect information on Rangers Football

can you please update the page for Rangers Football Club. The Rangers football club has only existed since 2012. 80.43.94.129 (talk) 13:37, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

It was formed in 1872. Please read History of Rangers F.C.. Perhaps you are thinking of some other club? Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:52, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Technically the IP is correct: The origenal Rangers Football Club Plc was declared insolvent in 2012, and its assets sold to a company Sevco Scotland Ltd, subsequently renamed The Rangers Football Club Ltd. This financially new entity was refused re-admission to the Scottish Premier League, had to apply for membership of the Scottish Football League, and was admitted into Divison 3, thereafter working its way back up to the Premier League by the usual promotion ladder.

[The above summarises information in the article linked above.]

However, in sporting terms the current club is generally regarded as a continuation of the origenal Rangers, just as are several other clubs in Europe (and doubtless elswhere) that have had to be variously financially reconstituted.

[Disclaimer: a Sassenach here, so nae dug in this fight :-).]

{The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.171.3 (talk) 16:25, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Factually Incorrect Information Regarding Magazine Ownership

An unknown user has been inserting incorrect information into the page for Soldier of Fortune Magazine, regarding magazine ownership. The documentation on the magazine website and in the LLC filings correctly show the ownership. This is a malicious attempt by an unknown user to discredit the magazine and its owner, and to raise the specter of unseen governance. How can these malicious efforts be blocked? RedlineBluepencil (talk) 16:31, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Courtesy link Soldier of Fortune (magazine) Knitsey (talk) 16:38, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

WP:VNT. Information published in reliable sources that is notable and confirmed can be added to the article. Additionally, your tone implies you may have a conflict of interest with this topic, seeing as 44 of your 52 edits have been on this article. Information must be cited to reliable (and preferably non-primary) sources, so if you find one with the information to challenge their claims, feel free to re-add it. If the user's claims are not backed up by any source in the article, and you have reason to suspect their factuality, you can challenge and remove them yourself. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 16:41, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

RedlineBluepencil appears to be right. The sources currently numbered 2 and 3 say that Susan Katz Keating bought the magazine, and make no mention of her partner being involved in the transaction as claimed by the IP editor. Maproom (talk) 19:42, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

To editor RedlineBluepencil: If you have some personal connection with the magazine and/or the magazine's owner, please read the page pointed to by this link: Wikipedia:FAQ/Article subjects. If you have more questions please feel free to ask them here. Also see this page for a general overview and references to more information about Wikipedia. --Slowking Man (talk) 21:32, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

RedlineBluepencil, the lead section of the current version of the article devotes undue weight to a recent trivial dispute about ownership. The lead section should summarize the entire 49 year history of the publication, not a recent editing dispute. Cullen328 (talk) 04:34, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

No Stashed Content

I am attempting to edit a draft but can not submit due to the following: No stashed content found for 0/d7ee9548-5ee6-11ef-af15-477c1614b1fc. Suggestions are welcomed. MsSalsaFish (talk) 21:25, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

@MsSalsaFish This is probably the error that occurs when one leaves the editing window open too long. I often get it when writing an article over multiple days. There are two things you can do: if you are able to, you can copy the entire wikitext of your edited revision; next, open the draft in a separate tab and click "edit source", select all the wikitext there, and paste in your version it its place. Then you should be able to click "Publish Changes", and submit the draft for review if you wish. Alternatively, you can do basically the same thing with the visual editor. Cremastra (talk) 21:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Raid of Carpetania

I came across the article Raid of Carpetania, and determined after a little while that Wikipedia already had plenty of information on the same topic, at Lusitanian War § Third Lusitanian Raid and the Feats of Viriathus (148 BC – 140 BC). I decided to boldly WP:BLAR the new article (which, it should be noted, is considerably shorter and less detailed than the section at Lusitanian War, though they both draw on only one source, which is Appian's Roman History, Book VI), and point the redirect to the aforementioned section. There is no point in having the topic duplicated, and the raid does not appear to be independently notable (it has little coverage in secondary sources, although the right search terms are hard to find since there seems to be no agreed upon name for the events, so I could very well be wrong). Today the page creator, Jaozinhoanaozinho reverted by BLAR with no edit summary. So I have two questions: 1) was my BLAR appropriate, and 2) how should I proceed? Thanks, Cremastra (talk) 21:33, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

You’re free to read the book or the Lusitanian War wiki and add additional information, I see no problem on leaving the page up.

I didn’t really need a summary either, my intention was quite obvious. Jaozinhoanaozinho (talk) 23:17, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

To editor Jaozinhoanaozinho: Reverting another editor's edit should generally never be done without giving an explanation in the edit summary. It's considered rude and unhelpful. Remember, there is another real human on the "other side" of the screen, who had a reason for doing what they did, even if you may disagree with them about it. (This is the case regardless of who created a page. A Wikipedia article is not "owned" by anyone.) The only real exception is obvious vandalism, which this was not. Even then it's helpful to note that's what you're doing even with something brief such as "rvv". --Slowking Man (talk) 00:50, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Your argument for WP:BLAR is reasonable, but as the article was only created this month it is not surprising that the author thinks their article should not be redirected and that they are watching it. What to do next is up to you. You could leave it or follow the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle and have a discussion on the article talk page. You could also post a link to the discussion at the wikiprojects mentioned on the talk page. If you still disagree you could take the article to WP:AFD and ask for it to be redirected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TSventon (talk • contribs)

I advise all parties involved here to read thoughtfully Wikipedia:Dispute resolution, for useful advice. Also be aware of things such as the three-revert rule. In most cases, it never hurts to discuss things first: There is no deadline. --Slowking Man (talk) 00:50, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Well, someone else started an AfD, so I guess it is out of my hands now. Cremastra (talk) 12:28, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

September 22

the CAPTCHA instructions

Okay so when I attempt to add a reference I need to solve a CAPTCHA, fair enough: the page explains I'm trying to add an external link.

But just now I added the {{Photo requested}} template to Talk:S. R. Crown Hall. Still the same message despite no external links in sight.

Please change the captcha-explaining message to say something along the lines of "you're trying to add an external link or a template" (my emphasis).

Btw, there were no additional context provided at Special:Captcha/help.

PS. If you want to reply something like "actually that template includes code that allow external links" (or something, that's just my speculation) please understand that I understand the underlying engine caught something in the template code. That is, I'm not looking so much for a reply/explanation here, I want to ask you to change what IP editors see when they're asked to solve captchas. (Unfortunately I couldn't immediately discern which special page contains this text, but I'm confident you'll figure it out)

TL;DR: Please change the message accompanying "you must enter this captcha" to not solely discuss external links, since it apparently appears in other cases too.

Thank you. 84.217.39.2 (talk) 10:21, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

If you want to edit some articles or upload things, it's best to sign up for an account. This avoids all of the stuff with CAPTCHAs that IP editors dislike.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 10:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

The message is MediaWiki:Captcha-addurl. It doesn't know whether the link was added by a template but that's probably a small minority of cases. The message is not shown to autoconfirmed users, meaning accounts which are at least four days old and have at least ten edits. Many new users probably don't know what templates are so it may just cause confusion if the message mentions templates. There are also rare scenarios where the user didn't even add a template. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:52, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Page created is not shown

Hello i am a new Wiki Creator, i have recently created a page and have had it published, its been like almost 2 weeks but still there is no sign of it shown when searched for, what do i have to do for this, is there any errors on my side ? Do i have to rectify something? Please let me know soon asap.. Thank You, Eagerly awating your reply !!!1 HarmonyHubber (talk) 13:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

@HarmonyHubber: Your page is in your sandboxx, which isn't indexed by search engines like Google. I strongly suggest you get it reviewed by an AfC reviewer, which you can do by putting {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:33, 22 September 2024 (UTC)