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• Well, it's official. As of this week, Thunder is moving to Wednesday nights at a 9:05-11:05 P.M. EST timeslot.

• I guess the majority of you either like the rating system I used last week, or a lot of people didn't bother to write in their thoughts. In any case, I got plenty of responses saying they liked it and a minimal amount of mail saying they didn't like it, so I'm going to keep the system around for a while. In the long run, it's probably easier to tolerate constant half-point ratings than to hear me complain about how the match sucked (although I still will make my voice heard if something is THAT bad), so it works for everyone. Thanks to everyone who gave feedback, by the way.

  I did get a couple of complaints, though. First, the pictures used for the points were too small and were enlarged thanks to the effort of Bill. Second, a lot of people did not recognize the woman in the picture, so if you still cannot make heads or tails on who is being depicted, it's Spice, the catalyst of Three Count's formation.

  As for matches that I find offensive enough to give minus points to, those warrant a different picture. I won't reveal what it is, but I will give you a hint. If you look at the rotating pictures on the home page (remember, no hitting the RELOAD key!), you may have seen the "negative point" picture.

• No mailbag this week.

• If you're looking for Bill's mid-week report, it will be posted tomorrow. Since Thunder will be on Wednesdays from now on, Bill is going to switch his mid-week posting to Thursdays.

• Final note before the report, and this is a "thumbs-up" to WCW. I didn't watch all of Nitro last week, so I won't comment on whether the show ruled or sucked. However, I noticed something different on Nitro, something I haven't seen in weeks on that show.

  The nWo took some damage, instead of running dominant like they usually do.

  That alone deserves some applause. I'm glad WCW realized that even though the nWo needs to score the upper hand to further the storylines, the good guys also have to get their share of victories. If you recall, the past nWo incarnations were hampered, in my opinion, due to the fact that outside of Curt Hennig and sometimes Scott Hall, very few nWo members were willing to put the WCW guys over. (I'm not counting B-Teamers by the way.)

  Anyway, I just thought I'd pass along a round of praise for once.

• WCW Logo.

• We see clips from last Monday's Nitro.

• Earlier today, we see Jeff Jarrett, Scott Steiner and Kevin Nash pulling luggage. Bret Hart arrives elsewhere.

• We now go to the set for two hours of Thunder from Erie, PA.

• Match #1: Vampiro vs. Crowbar
  • Vampiro comes out and tries to get the crowd going.
  • For some reason, Vamp stays near the entrance ramp.
  • While talking about the "Old Age Outlaws," Scott Hudson actually says "Oh, you didn't know." Puh-lease.
    • On that note, shouldn't Wade get royalties considering how close that name is to the Old Age Inlaws monkier he gave to Davey Boy Smith and Jim Neidhart?
  • Crowbar, David Flair and Daffney walk out.
  • Vampiro jumps Flair and goes to work on Crowbar.
  • After bringing Crowbar into the ring, Vampiro goes for a urinage on Flair.
  • Crowbar makes the save with a somersault plancha to the outside!
  • Back inside, Crowbar hits a slingshot splash for two.
  • Crowbar chokes Vampiro on the middle rope.
  • Flair holds Vampiro for Crowbar to leap on.
  • Vampiro comes back with a urinage and a legdrop for two.
  • Vampiro with a series of kicks.
  • Vampiro does his "Devil" pose from Tekken 2. (The one where he's shooting the laser beams from his eyes)
  • They reverse go-behinds, and Crowbar gets in a German suplex.
  • Crowbar leaps to the apron and hits a somersault legdrop for two.
  • Vampiro lands a DDT.
  • Vampiro goes to the middle rope but Daffney distracts the referee, allowing Flair to trip Vamp off.
  • Crowbar goes up top for a frankensteiner but Vamp counters into a powerbomb for the win!
  • YOUR WINNER: Vampiro via top-rope powerbomb in 2:57.
  • Post-match, Vamp gives Flair a side kick but Daffney nails him with a pipe.
  • As the heels beat down Vampiro, Arn Anderson enters the ring to talk to his godson.
  • Crowbar tries to go for Arn but gets beat down.
  • Flair and his chick leave Crowbar lying.
    

• We go to the three-shot.
  • Tonight, we have an "All Outdoor Hardcore Match" between Norman Smiley and Brian Knobbs.
  • If you think that's bad, we also have an evening gown match between Madusa and Oklahoma.
  • Also, Booker T, Stevie Ray and Midnight face off in a three-way.
  • Chris "Champagne" Kanyon and Bam Bam Bigelow will wrestle in a Champagne on a Pole match. Wasn't the world waiting for that?
  • Sid Vicious and Chris Benoit takes on Jeff Jarrett and Kevin Nash.

• Bret Hart is walking.

• Bret Hart makes his way out.
  • Hart says the crowd has a right to boo.
  • Hart says he doesn't know what's going on. Of course, if you read his weekly column recently, you knew this.
  • Hart does his "I let everyone down" talk.
  • Hart says he deserves the disgust of the fans.
  • Hart apologizes for letting everyone down.
  • Hart says that Nash likes shortcuts and that the nWo is a bunch of thugs.
  • Hart says he's going to start changing things from here on in.
  • Hart says the nWo is out and the pink-and-black-attack is back.
  • Hart tells Jarrett, Steiner and Nash to stick the nWo where the sun doesn't shine.
  • Said three men now hit the entryway.
  • Nash says that some things never change and that he was the same way in New York -- too stupid for his own good.
  • Nash asks Hart if he thinks the crowd wants heroes.
  • Nash says the crowd wants heroes but with the nWo, Hart has a chance to become a god.
  • Nash runs down the fans and says they live vicariously through the nWo.
  • Nash says that Canadian hero bull[MUTE] is dead.
  • Nash says that hard work doesn't pay. Sadly, that's the truth in WCW.
  • Nash wants Hart to come back to the nWo tonight.
  • Hart calls Nash a tall piece of [MUTE].
  • Hart says he'll take on the nWo one after another.
  • Nash gives Hart a chance to leave the building.
  • Hart says he isn't going anywhere and that Nash is finished.
  • Nash says that Hart's career will be finished and if the nWo feels like it, his life will be finished also.
  • During this segment, someone's sign was blurred out, it seems.

• Bret Hart sits in a room waving a bat. Meanwhile, the Old Age Outlaws look on a monitor.

• From Nitro: Fit Finlay vs. Brian Knobbs.

• Match #2: WCW Hardcore Champion Norman Smiley vs. Brian Knobbs
  • We see Smiley telling some guy in the back that it's too cold to go outside.
  • Smiley goes outside and the door slams shut.
  • Knobbs blindsides Smiley and assaults him with various objects.
  • Knobbs slams Smiley through a table.
  • Smiley rams Knobbs into a large door.
  • Smiley uses a trash can lid on Knobbs.
  • Smiley tosses Knobbs into a crate and beans him with a trash can.
  • Knobbs throws a trash can at Smiley.
  • Smiley comes back with the same weapon.
  • Smiley sends Knobbs into the large door and lands some rights.
  • Knobbs comes back and plasters Smiley with a board.
  • Smiley tosses Knobbs into a parking sign and uses it as a weapon.
    
  • A car comes out of nowhere and runs into Smiley.
  • Knobbs hits Smiley with a shovel (which breaks apart) and covers for the win.
  • YOUR WINNER AND NEW HARDCORE CHAMPION: Brian Knobbs
  • And somewhere, a person actually cares.
  • I should also point out that a heatless Knobbs title reign is counteractive to Smiley's push and is ridiculous given the fact that the two men wrestle in a four-way match.
  • In other words, if Meng or Fit Finlay win the title at Souled Out, this match is rendered useless.
    DUD.

• Members of the nWo are walking backstage.

• Scott Steiner kicks down the door to Bret Hart's room and the nWo follow in.

• The Revolution come out.
  • We see clips of Perry Saturn going all New Jack on Rey Mysterio, Jr.
  • Shane Douglas tells the Filthy Animals that Sunday is their day of reckoning.
  • Douglas says his group is capable of finishing this battle.
  • Douglas has a question: Who is the Revolution's mystery partner?
  • Douglas teases himself but says to wait and see.
  • Douglas says he'll hit the Animals from all sides.
  • Nice to see Saturn and Asya standing side to side.
  • Douglas says that Hacksaw Jim Duggan is next.
  • Dean Malenko asks what is a war without victims.
  • Malenko says every great army will get their recognition.
  • Malenko says at Souled Out, the flag of the Revolution will go up and the Animals will go down.
  • Saturn gives a goofy promo about spinning wheels.
  • Asya gives Saturn a cold look, in which Saturn asks what she is looking at.
  • Douglas separates the two and tells Asya to know her role.
  • Douglas tells Asya not to screw up again and runs her down.

• The nWo drag Bret Hart around backstage.

• Promo for the Sting Attitude T-Shirt.

• The Old Age Outlaws watch a Bret Hart beatdown on a monitor.

• Gene Okerlund talks to Tank Abbott. Talk about the blind leading the blind. Thankfully, Jerry Flynn interrupts the interview and pummels on Tank. The Keystone Cops break up the melee and arrest the two.

• Match #3: WCW Cruiserweight Champion Madusa (w/ Spice) vs. Oklahoma in an Evening Gown match
  • Wasn't Debbie the one who vehemently opposed this type of match during Russo's debut Nitro?
  • And why do I have to put up with Ed Ferrera on my screen?
  • Oklahoma is wearing his own dress.
  • Oklahoma is carrying around the Cruiserweight belt, by the way.
  • Miss Hancock makes her way out as Oklahoma argues. I guess Oklahoma is getting fined or something. I don't care, really.
  • As Hancock walks away, Madusa kicks Oklahoma from behind.
  • Madusa tosses Oklahoma into the steps.
  • Oklahoma gets a shot to the face.
  • Oklahoma sends Madusa to the steps.
  • Oklahoma grabs on his leg for some reason and sends Madusa inside.
  • Oklahoma tries to pull the hidden BBQ sauce out of his leg but fails.
  • Oklahoma chokes Madusa in the ring and slams her down.
  • Oklahoma just can't get the BBQ sauce unattached from his leg.
  • Madusa attacks from behind and hits a backdrop suplex.
  • Madusa rips the gown from Oklahoma and wins the match.
  • YOUR WINNER: Madusa in 2:04.
  • Post-match, Oklahoma (in boxers) smacks Madusa with the BBQ sauce.
  • Oklahoma disrobes the top part of Madusa's gown and pours the BBQ sauce on Madusa.
    
  • Let's see. There was the inherent stupidity of an evening gown match with someone who protested when told to work such a match, plus the fact that I had to put up with Ed Ferrera, his BBQ sauce and his ability to suck the heat from his opponent and turn it into nothing. And there wasn't much a match to begin with.
  • Which means I'll go...
      

• The nWo yell at Hart and burn his tights.

• Gene talks to Madusa. Madusa says some things. It was not good. Even worse, you could hear a production guy yell "CLEAR!" as the screen goes to black for...

• Match #4: Midnight vs. Stevie Ray vs. Booker T
  • We get two gongs tonight.
  • Stevie Ray blindsides Booker T backstage and heads to ringside.
    
  • Stevie goes to town on Midnight to start.
  • Stevie with some knees in the corner.
  • Stevie with more of his innovative kick and punch offense.
  • Stevie whips Midnight into a back elbow.
  • Stevie assaults Midnight on the ropes.
  • A whip leads to a Stevie Ray clothesline.
  • Stevie whips Midnight into an axe kick.
  • Stevie covers and gets up at two.
  • Stevie whips Midnight into a powerslam for two as...
  • Booker T hits the ring!
  • Booker sends Stevie outside with a right.
  • Stevie gets a mic and says this isn't over.
  • Stevie says there must be a winner and that Booker must beat her.
  • David Penzer announces that Stevie Ray is counted out at 2:55.
  • Booker T and Midnight must square off.
  • Lockup, Booker with a headlock.
  • Booker comes off the ropes with a shoulderblock.
  • Midnight gets up and goes back down with a shoulderblock.
  • Booker doesn't want to follow up on Midnight.
  • A sad sequence leads to a Midnight dropkick.
  • Midnight tries a whip but Booker reverses and hits his axe kick.
  • Midnight lands a right.
  • Booker with a boot to the midsection.
  • Booker goes to the ropes but Stevie makes him tumble outside.
  • Stevie beans Booker with the slapjack.
  • Stevie throws Booker back in and tells Midnight to pin him.
  • Midnight goes to cover, but takes Booker's unconscious arm and pins herself.
  • YOUR WINNER: Midnight in 5:19.
  • Post-match, Stevie argues with Midnight and gets dropkicked off the apron.
  • Stevie enters the ring and beans Midnight with the slapjack.
  • Stevie puckers up for the camera and exits the ring.
    
    DUD.

• The nWo threaten to go Brutus Beefcake on Hart backstage.

• Jerry Flynn argues with authorities in his cell and ends up getting jumped by Tank Abbott. Umm, wouldn't a typical law enforcement unit keep two enemies as far apart from each other to prevent this from happening?

• Gene Okerlund talks to Chris "Champagne" Kanyon.

• Kevin Nash cuts some "hair."

• Larry Zbyzsko talks about stealing Bret Hart from the nWo. Terry Funk tells Zbyzsko to check it out because he doesn't care if they shave Hart's head.

• Larry and Paul Orndorff are walking.

• Match #5: Chris "Champagne" Kanyon (w/ women and J. Biggs) vs. Bam Bam Bigelow in a Champagne on a Pole Match.
  • This could be good or not depending on how much the bottle of champagne plays into the match.
  • Kanyon gets kisses on both cheeks from his women.
  • Bigelow makes his way out.
  • We see clips of Kanyon's feud with Bigelow.
  • Bigelow charges the ring and Kanyon answers with fists.
  • Kanyon kicks away next to the ropes.
  • Bigelow reverses a whip, but Kanyon slides under and grabs him from behind.
  • Bigelow hits a back elbow and goes up for the champagne bottle.
  • Kanyon counters with a powerbomb from the turnbuckle for two.
  • Kanyon goes up for the bottle but gets shaken off when Bigelow charges the ropes.
  • Bigelow hits a backdrop suplex.
  • Bigelow lands a diving headbutt.
  • Bigelow goes up top but gets crotched.
  • Kanyon heads up top and hits a Russian legsweep.
  • Both men are down.
  • Mickey Jay calls for a ten count and Kanyon gets up at nine.
  • Kanyon tries a whip but Bigelow reverses into a Samoan Drop.
  • The ladies hit the apron.
  • As Bigelow goes for the Greetings from Asbury Park, one of the ladies enters the ring as Mickey Jay is distracted.
  • Bigelow tries to make out with the woman, but she breaks free.
  • Kanyon grabs his belt and beans Bigelow with it for two.
  • Kanyon with some boots.
  • Kanyon goes up for the bottle and gets it.
  • Kanyon dives down with the bottle but gets punched in the stomach.
  • Bigelow gets the bottle, tosses it down, goes up top and hits a diving headbutt on Kanyon's groin.
  • Bigelow hits the Greetings for the win.
  • YOUR WINNER: Bam Bam Bigelow via Greetings from Asbury Park in 4:41.
  • Post-match, Lex Luger (in Sting get-up) comes into the ring from behind and hits Bigelow with a bat.
  • As Luger goes for the Scorpion Deathlock, the lights go dark and Sting's music plays.
  • A spotlight airs on Luger as he looks at a crow standing by ringside.
  • Luger takes comfort with Liz and walks to the back.
  • Bigelow has words for Luger in the ring until Kanyon hits him from behind with the champagne bottle.
  • Kanyon then hits That's A Wrap.
    
  • I would have rated that higher, but the hyperbooking at the end of the segment really killed it for me.

• Zbyzsko and Orndorff continue their search.

• Some clips of the feud between Diamond Dallas Page and Buff Bagwell.

• Earlier today, Gene Okerlund talks to Kimberly.
  • Gene talks about DDP filming a movie as Kim was doing her Nitro Girl search.
  • Kim talks about new challenges and what-not.
  • Gene asks Kim what it's like to be a celebrity couple.
  • Kim says the two get pulled into different directions.
  • Gene brings up Buff Bagwell, but Kim refers more to publicists.
  • Gene asks why Kim is off television.
  • Kim says that DDP thought she was getting too wrapped up with people at work.
  • Gene brings Buff's name up again.
  • Kim says it's not about Buff, it's about DDP and her.
  • Gene asks Kim how things are in the bedroom at home.
  • Kim says she and DDP have never had a problem.
  • Gene talks about rumors between Kim and Buff in Little Rock, AK.
  • Kim tells people to mind their own business.
  • Kim says Buff had it all wrong in his interview. She's 5' 10" and only stands 6' 1" in high heels.
  • Kim says she has spoken the truth about what Gene has asked.
  • Kim says that there is a line of privacy that shouldn't be crossed.

• A trainer tapes up Nash's chest as Jarrett runs down Hart.

• Souled Out promo.

• Gene speaks to Sid Vicious and Chris Benoit.
  • Benoit says that tonight will be a preview of what Jarrett will face at Sunday's Triple Threat Theatre.
  • Sid gives his usual rambling interview, proving that there is still some consistency in WCW.

• Match #6: Kevin Nash and WCW United States Champion Jeff Jarrett vs. Sid Vicious and Chris Benoit
  • The nWo contingent walks out first as Schiavone does his customary "The nWo is falling apart" speech.
  • Jarrett calls Erie, PA "Slapnuts Country."
  • Jarrett says it took an army to take him down on Nitro.
  • Jarrett says he will beat Benoit three times on Sunday.
  • Jarrett tries to cut a promo on Bret Hart but Sid's music interrupts.
  • Sid gets the next entrance.
  • Benoit gets the final entrance.
  • It's a pier-four to start.
  • Benoit clotheslines Jarrett over the top.
  • Sid lands a right on Jarrett as Nash follows Benoit outside.
  • Sid with punches in the corner.
  • Sid whips Jarrett into a forearm.
  • Sid whips Jarrett into a big boot.
  • As Sid readies for the chokeslam, Nash comes in from behind with a blow. Uhh, how about a tag?
  • Benoit and Jarrett battle on the entryway as Nash takes control with the usual stuff.
  • Jarrett chairs Benoit.
  • Sid levels Nash with a right.
  • Jarrett and Benoit are battling at the back of the arena.
  • Nash "connects" with his big boot in the ring.
  • Benoit re-enters the ring and beats on Nash but Jarrett makes the save.
  • Charles Robinson signals Sid to leave the ring as Benoit gets doubleteamed.
  • Jarrett takes his shirt off and chokes Benoit.
  • Jarrett knees Benoit in the corner.
  • Jarrett with a vertical suplex for two.
  • Jarrett whips Benoit into a sleeper.
  • Benoit reverses into his own sleeper, but Jarrett breaks free with a jawbreaker.
  • Jarrett with a right and a whip.
  • Jarrett tries a dropkick but Benoit holds the ropes.
  • Benoit catapults Jarrett into the corner.
  • Benoit with a running clothesline into the corner.
  • Benoit back bodydrops Jarrett.
  • Hudson calls Souled Out "the event of the year." Uhh, it's the first friggin' pay per view. Criminy.
  • Benoit locks on the Crossface, but Nash makes the save.
  • All four men are in the ring, but Benoit get sent over the top by Jarrett.
  • Sid tries to powerbomb Nash but Jarrett makes the save.
  • The heels whip Sid but eat a double-clothesline.
  • Nash drags Sid outside and the two slug away.
  • Nash takes out Sid with the U. S. belt.
  • Nash tosses the belt into the ring for Jarrett behind Robinson's back.
  • Jarrett misses the belt shot and Benoit hits a backdrop suplex.
  • Benoit goes up top for the swan dive but Nash shoves him off the top onto the U. S. belt.
  • This allows Jarrett to hit The Stroke for the win.
  • YOUR WINNERS: Kevin Nash and Jeff Jarrett via The Stroke in 6:36.
      

• Backstage, Scott Steiner is laid out under a table. Bret Hart is nowhere to be found, apparently.

• Jarrett and Nash come to Steiner's aid.

• Hart staggers outside with his new "haircut" but re-enters the building, saying he isn't going out like this. I doubt Hart's hair really got cut as it appears it could be hidden under his cap in a ponytail.
  

• Hart enters the ring area with a pipe.
  • Hart tells the nWo he wants to finish it right now.
  • Jarrett and Nash come out with baseball bats.
  • It's 2-on-1 in the ring.
  • Arn Anderson (w/ bucket) and Terry Funk (w/ "branding iron") walk toward the ring.
  • Arn and Funk hit the ring.
  • Funk clears Jarrett from the ring and gets a mic.
  • Funk says Arn has a bucket of water and tells the nWo to get into the ring.
  • Funk tells Bret to get out of the ring.
  • Arn throws the water at Bret, revealing his bruises were make-up.
  • Bret hammers Arn with the pipe in return, and the nWo beat down Funk.
  • Bret takes off his white shirt to reveal an nWo one underneath. Like I predicted, his hair remained intact.
  • The "New Age Outlaws" (Tenay's wording, not mine) hit the ring, but Orndorff gets taken out.
  • Sid Vicious and Chris Benoit charge the ring.
  • Jarrett beats down Zbyzsko outside the ring.
  • Nash beats Sid with a pipe and does the same to Funk.
  • Orndorff goes outside.
  • As Nash grabs the branding iron, Funk hits a ballshot.
  • Funk and Nash reach for the branding iron as we fade.
  • What a cop-out ending.

• The Good: The fact that I survived watching the show.

• The Bad: The fact that I had to watch the show. I think I saw an omen when Bill pointed out a commercial before the show on TV Land featuring the "Crying Indian" that I used for the evening gown match.

• The Ugly: Three heels can take out six faces, according to tonight's show. Why not just bring back the cage match from Uncensored '96 so The Old Age Outlaws, Sid, Benoit, Goldberg and the Heroes of Wrestling convention can all job to the nWo. With Ric Flair eating the pin, of course.