Dan yearning for a mini iPhone, who would have thought!

To those wanting tariffs to be discussed: The discussion would have already been obsolete today.

I’m not looking forward to circular home screen icons. I’ve gotten used to the new ones in control center but I still prefer the old style.

I’m fine with either circle or square (with the current rounded corners) but I think a half way in between “squircle” is awkward. Not just the shape itself but it’s especially odd-looking when you put shapes inside it. A square or a circle can fit almost any shape inside it and look good. But I don’t think anything looks good inside a squircle.

Good to see yall. You make me smile a lot and I enjoy watching you both together.

I usually agree with Hartley so this is weird.

I agree with Dan - the new icon shape looks bad. Really surprised Hartley likes it! haha

I don't agree with Hartley - what I've seen of the new pill designs at the bottom of the screen are... questionable. But I will reserve final judgment for when we have the OS in our hands. Though, if they are raised up a bit off the bottom of the screen (I can't remember if they are), then they will be easier to use than the current navbar design, which is too low on the screen.

And I do like how the search bars and other controls are moving to the bottom of the screen. iOS was designed for small phones that can be used one-handed. It's time to reimagine/redesign iOS for large phones where our thumbs can't comfortably reach the top of the screen. All gestures should be moved and/or re-thought so that they are accessible from the middle or bottom of the screen.

Until that happens, I'll keep using the 3rd gen iPhone SE. Even the 13 Mini is too tall even though it's a smaller device than the 3rd gen SE... this is because it's all screen unlike the SE. It's also too narrow of a device, which makes the keyboard keys too thin and awkward to type on. The form factor should serve the human, not the other way around. Treat the iPhone kinda like a wearable and make different sizes so that almost everyone can use their phone one-handed. And yeah if that takes redesigning iOS because you refuse to make a small device (even if it's because they don't sell), you better redesign iOS! People don't know what they want. Steve Jobs knew that.

I agree with Dan - the Jony Ive device sounds iffy, even if Open AI is doing it. They've proven they can design an amazing chatbot. Not a device.