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Line 7: {{COI editnotice}} {{Connected contributor (paid)\|User1=Brianweedster\|U1-employer=Loma Linda University\|U1-otherlinks=[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Brianweedster&oldid=254178731 Declaration]}} ~~==Conflicts and Controversy==~~ I added this category since I don't think these issues have been addressed. I have a certain amount of familiarity with the school and tried to include links to outside articles supporting everything in there. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Johnathankincaid\|Johnathankincaid]] ([[User talk:Johnathankincaid\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Johnathankincaid\|contribs]]) 03:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> I removed this category. I'm all for fairness, but this category is not present in other university teaching hospital pages. The information was biased and unhelpful.[[User:Dustinjones\|Dustinjones]] ([[User talk:Dustinjones\|talk]]) 20:51, 10 July 2008 (UTC) This is about a university, not just a teaching hospital. Other schools do have similar information which gives a more rounded view rather than what a school's promotional department may publish (Baylor for example.) Wikipedia advocates a neutral point of view and I have stated fact, not opinion, and sourced all of it. If there is additional information that I was not aware of, I am sure it is more than welcome to be added to this article, as is all relevant, sourceable information. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.110.216.75\|71.110.216.75]] ([[User talk:71.110.216.75\|talk]]) 05:28, 11 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> The area of conflicts and controversy is obviously biased with several mistakes and misspellings throughout. The "supporting" links refer to pages that are loosely connected to the topic. For example, the wiki author posts that LLU received a settlement because of its proximity to a Ronald McDonald House. The "supporting" link is to the homepage of the Ronald McDonald House in Loma Linda. This isn't how supporting documents works. I feel that this section needs some serious work and by someone who is not biased. Information that is regarding the medical center should go on the wiki page for the medical center and should be removed from the University page. Furthermore, when posting to the discussion page, please sign your comments. [[User:Dustinjones\|Dustinjones]] ([[User talk:Dustinjones\|talk]]) 20:49, 13 August 2008 (UTC) You are welcome to repair any mistakes and misspellings if you wish. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Johnathankincaid\|Johnathankincaid]] ([[User talk:Johnathankincaid\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Johnathankincaid\|contribs]]) 11:28, 21 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> this section not is fair or objective, and need to be changed to neutral point of view. the article as a whole need be fleshed and made organized <span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/207.42.135.25\|207.42.135.25]] ([[User talk:207.42.135.25\|talk]]) 16:35, 16 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> It is all sourced and all references are provided, do you object to the factuality or is there some other reason for your repeated deletions? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Johnathankincaid\|Johnathankincaid]] ([[User talk:Johnathankincaid\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Johnathankincaid\|contribs]]) 21:53, 17 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> Just because something is factual, sourced, and referenced does not mean that it is appropriate as an encyclopedic entry. This does not describe the university or fairly represents it, therefore it should be removed. This is not relevant to the school. If a murder took place on the campus of Harvard University, should it be part of its wiki entry? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Namja\|Namja]] ([[User talk:Namja\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Namja\|contribs]]) 08:18, 4 December 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> ~~:This is completely incorrect. <b>[[User:Jauerback\|Jauerback]]</b><sup>[[User talk:Jauerback\|dude?]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jauerback\|dude.]]</sub> 16:55, 9 December 2008 (UTC)~~ The "Scandals" section just doesn't seem appropriate or 100% neutral. Who cares that a woman was fired after becoming pregnant out of wedlock? The University was found to be justified in the court, so case dismissed. BTW, any private religious organization has the same rights, nothing special about Loma Linda there. While I was investigating other universities on Wikipedia, I did not immediately find any that had a "Scandals" section. In my attempt to figure out what the source of all of this is, I reviewed [[User:Johnathankincaid\|Johnathankincaid]]'s contributions, and for some reason, they are mostly involving negative material against Loma Linda University, Ellen G. White, and the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Wikipedia is hardly the place for one to take out all of their negative feelings against an organization. I must question his motives and neutrality since I do not see too many other constructive edits or contributions on the project. Jonathan, please enlighten us as to your appeared "beef" with the University and why a possible personal issue should be reflected in an encyclopedia with so much negativity. (''BTW, this edit warring and reverting is frowned upon in the wiki community, and does not help your cause, whatever that may be.)'' [[User:Brianweedster\|Brianweedster]] ([[User talk:Brianweedster\|talk]]) 06:30, 5 December 2008 (UTC) There is much information not listed on this webpage that is listed on other university webpages. I am not intimately familiar with all aspects of the university, and many things can be added such as an expanded history section, however noone has seemed to take the time to add it. Also, anything that I added that is not sourced can be removed, I am ok with that. As far as biased, I present a different view than others might, however members of the Universities promotional department have been banned for repeatedly vandalizing this page, so I think its a bit unfair to come down on me as the unbiased one. Also, the case of Arriga is considered an important case in the church-vs-state arugument. If you believe that the university has the right to fire people for these things, that is your opinion and the courts support it. However, since they do I don't understand why you would have a problem with it being on the page. I did not title the section "Scandals" someone else did. I agree that it is inappropriate. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Johnathankincaid\|Johnathankincaid]] ([[User talk:Johnathankincaid\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Johnathankincaid\|contribs]]) 03:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> One more thing: the McDonald's fry thing is very strange in its position. Why would it be considered a scandal for LLU? The references don't really explain the situation to be a "scandal" or cast the University in any negative light whatsoever. If this paragraph should be kept (I doubt it should be since it is irrelevant), it should be in a list of grants, awards, funding sources, or similarly named section. [[User:Brianweedster\|Brianweedster]] ([[User talk:Brianweedster\|talk]]) 07:23, 5 December 2008 (UTC) Again, I didn't call it a scandal, it was changed after my entry. If you would like to create a funding section, that would greatly contribute to the article's content (obviously this article needs more information added to it for completeness.) I would appreciate it if you would refrain from attacking me personally and assuming a "beef" or personal issue with the university (which I agree should be handled differently than a Wikipedia edit.) Also, my personal opinion is that this article lacks an enormous amount of substance and would like to see informed contributors add to it. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Johnathankincaid\|Johnathankincaid]] ([[User talk:Johnathankincaid\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Johnathankincaid\|contribs]]) 04:22, 9 December 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> :The section regarding the Arriga case has been debated endlessly and was moderated by a Wiki moderator and it was decided non-news. It doesn't have anything to do with anything. So quit adding it. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/65.197.250.234\|65.197.250.234]] ([[User talk:65.197.250.234\|talk]]) 03:57, 7 August 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> ==On the Alumni==

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