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:::::: Bjelopavlići are mentioned in the sources and as Albanians, here they are listed as a Serb tribe, "..''Bjelopavlići, Zećani, Vasojevići, Bratonožići were not identified as "Montenegrins" but only as Serb tribes."'' "But only as Serb tribe" is OR because the source does not say so and "only" is big conclusion. If this is not true(big conclusion) you will prove it with other English sources because many or some sources mention these tribes. Just find information where sources say that all these tribes are "only a Serb tribes". And that's it, after you prove it with other sources, this information goes back to the article, until then it has a blockage. [[User:Mikola22|Mikola22]] ([[User talk:Mikola22|talk]]) 15:43, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
:::::::{{ping|Sadko}} {{tquote|Serb identity of Montenegrin, Brda and other tribes as well as Petrovic dynasty is a historical fact which does not need to be proven.}} is the exact opposite of how wikipedia functions and in project which claims for itself to be part of a knowledge-generating process, in an academic or citizen science environment. There has to be reliable bibliography for any particular claim.--[[User:Maleschreiber|Maleschreiber]] ([[User talk:Maleschreiber|talk]]) 16:32, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
::::::::{{ping|Mikola22}} {{tquote|Just find information where sources say that all these tribes are "only a Serb tribes".}} For the quote about the tribes from Sadko, see, for example, <ref>{{cite book |last1=Vukčević |first1=Nikola |title=Etničko porijeklo Crnogoraca |date=1981 |pages=45-47}}</ref><ref>{{cite book |last1=Đorđević |first1=Tihomir R. |title=La Macédonie |date=1919 |publisher=Grasset |location=Paris |pages=105}}</ref> where you can find that quote from Ivan Radonjic letters. As we are talking about Vasojevići, they are regarded as Serbian tribe in the literature, both foreign<ref>{{cite book |title=The Slavonic and East European Review |date=1931 |publisher=Jonathan Cape Limited |url=https://books.google.rs/books?id=P5wIAQAAIAAJ&q=Vasojevici+Serbs&dq=Vasojevici+Serbs&hl=sr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXk4n2gfrqAhU9BhAIHZT6BiQQ6AEwB3oECAkQAg |accessdate=1 August 2020}}</ref><ref>{{cite book |last1=Treadway |first1=John D. |title=The Falcon & the Eagle: Montenegro and Austria-Hungary, 1908-1914 |date=1983 |publisher=Purdue University Press |page=27 |url=https://books.google.rs/books?hl=sr&id=IXRpAAAAMAAJ&dq=Vasojevici+Serbs&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Vasojevic |accessdate=1 August 2020}}</ref> and the ones from Montenegro/Yugoslavia.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Vešović |first1=Radoslav |title=Vasojevići Tribe |date=1935 |publisher=State Printing House |location=Sarajevo}}</ref><ref>{{Cite journal|last=Лутовац|first=Милисав|year=1967|title=Бихор и Kорита – антропогеографска истраживања, Насеља и порекло становништва (књига 40),|url=|journal=Српски етнографски зборник|location=Београд|publisher=Српска академија наука и уметности|volume=књига 81|pages=|via=}}</ref> And if historian even originates from the region and has done a relevant researches of it, then you got the bonus. For that, even the distinguished historians such as Radoslav Vešović and Milisav Lutovac (both of them even originated from the tribe itself), regard the tribe as Serbian. {{ping|Maleschreiber}} And if you have done even more research from the literature, you will find out that for the members of the Vasojevići tribe in the 18th century, Serbian identity was very important for them as they fought for it and to unite with Serbia at first, but later united with Montenegro as it was closer. So, there is a reliable bibliography about the tribe and the only problem was that you weren't aware of it, which is fine. I recommend you to begin with Radoslav Vešović and his book ''Vasojevići Tribe'', as you will find it quoted in a lot of literature which regards the tribe.[[User:James Jim Moriarty|James Jim Moriarty]] ([[User talk:James Jim Moriarty|talk]]) 12:57, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
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