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Good article reassessment for Djibouti at the Olympics

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Djibouti at the Olympics has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 13:36, 3 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Article tagging

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How do articles show up at Wikipedia:WikiProject Olympics/New articles that have not been tagged with {{WikiProject Olympics}}? Asking in regard to Oscar Goodman (basketball). His article is tagged with {{WikiProject Basketball}} due to his extensive play in FIBA tournaments.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:49, 6 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Read the first line of the "new articles" page and follow the link. You will find that it uses rules that predict the likelihood of an article belonging to a project. Schwede66 18:35, 6 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
User:Schwede66, the list does not list include basketball or FIBA competition. So I don't understand how it works.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:13, 7 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I don’t understand the details either. But I know that there are always articles included that should not be there. It’s just the way it is. Schwede66 06:26, 7 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Got it.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:00, 7 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Bad IP edits in articles on 2024 Olympic boxing

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Since about a month I have on my watchlist edits of an IP hopper on 2024 Olympic boxing competitions. I seen them once spilling out into another sport, and the IP is dynamic, so it is difficult to check. The example is this (and the IP returned to restore my partial revert here. The first paragraph is just incorrect, since IOC currently does not use names for weight categories, and the statement "this is the fourth appearance of the flyweight category at the Olympics" does not make sense. The second paragraph is not incorrect, but is written in a bad English, and the details are unclear (for example, the "silver medalist" refers to the 2020 silver medalist). All their additions are unsourced. I have seen literally dozens of those (they edited all boxing competitions multiple times); sometimes I tried to copyedit, sometimes I reverted as in this case. If I revert, they eventually come back. They never discuss anything. I can of course let it go and leave this horrible prose in the articles but I think this is not what Wikipedia is about. Any advise is appreciated. Ymblanter (talk) 18:50, 1 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

IPC terminology

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I have been looking through the IPC Guide to Para and IPC Terminology (last updated August 2021) and have found it quite interesting. For example, it says the Paralympic Games should not be referred to as the "Games of the Paralympiad", so I have removed that name from the article. It also says that they should not use Roman numerals, which can be found in all the articles and the infoboxes. What I found especially interesting is page 9, where they refer to specific Paralympic Games. It gives the example of Beijing 2022, where the formal name is "Beijing 2022 Paralympic Winter Games", with subsequent informal names as "Beijing 2022 Winter Paralympics", "2022 Paralympics", and "Beijing 2022". None of these is 2022 Winter Paralympics, which is what the article is currently named on Wikipedia. It specifically notes: "The term Paralympic Games refers only to summer editions of the Paralympic Games. Any reference to winter editions should use the term Paralympic Winter Games."

I know that IPC guidelines and Wikipedia guidelines can differ, especially when it comes to WP:COMMONNAME. This means that the article can mention the different correct terms for the name of the event, and that the official name does not necessarily mean that it will be the article title. However, it seems illogical to use an article title and terminology that goes against official IPC guidelines. This leads me to the opinion that the Beijing 2022 article should be located at either Beijing 2022 Winter Paralympics or 2022 Paralympics. I know both of these would cause an inconsistency with 2020 Summer Paralympics (the document allows that wording) and other editions of the Summer Paralympics, which might be undesirable, but I feel like we should be using naming in line with official guidelines on Wikipedia. What do people think? 78.82.201.71 (talk) 21:19, 5 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • it seems illogical to use an article title and terminology that goes against official IPC guidelines - the IPC guidelines are an internal style guide, and which may be issued for editorial media coverage of the event. The existence of a different style guide for a different organisation (like Wikipedia) is not illogical. However, we are basically applying our Olympics MOS to how we write about the Paralympics and if there is a suggestion that it would be better to have a Paralympics-specific MOS (or Paralympics-specific informal rules and consensus), then IPC terminology would certainly be discussed in devising that. Kingsif (talk) 22:43, 5 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
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