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1970 Bhojpur uprising

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Much of the content has nothing to do with the actual incident which is itself non-notable. The subject as a whole fails WP:GNG. Ratnahastin (talk) 16:09, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, History, and Bihar. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:18, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
• Strong keep the nominator should have researched about the subject before nominating this. There are several high quality journals that are strictly written on this topic. Atleast they should have gone through reference section where they could've found following:

• Sinha, Arun (1978). "Class War in Bhojpur: I". Economic and Political Weekly. 13 (1): 10–11. JSTOR 4366262.
• Mukherjee, Kalyan (1979). "Peasant Revolt in Bhojpur". Economic and Political Weekly. 14 (36): 1536–38. JSTOR 4367921.
• Rajendra Singh Yadav, Kalyan Mukherjee (1982). "For reasons of state: Oppression and resistance a study of Bhojpur peasantry, The Journal of Peasant Studies, 9:3". : Agrarian Movements in India: Studies on 20th Century Bihar: 119–147. doi:10.1080/03066158208438175. S2CID 154841960.
• Sinha, Arun (1978). "Class War in Bhojpur: II". Economic and Political Weekly. 13 (3): 90–92. JSTOR 4366310..Admantine123 (talk) 17:01, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

Explain how any of these sources establish WP:GNG. Ratnahastin (talk) 17:06, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

This is a significant event of the History of Bihar like Bihar movement. The Naxalism in Bihar has been a highly notable subject to write as in the history of Bihar, we have read caste wars happening over the decades between various faction of society for land and political power. This significant subject throws light on the early events sparking the naxalite movement in plains of central Bihar after it first emerged in the neighbouring state of West Bengal. You talk about "passing mention", let me tell there are seperate books written on the movement like some of the journals I have mentioned there. Anyone with fair judgement would have gauged the notability of the article. Admantine123 (talk) 00:52, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

You were asked to describe how does those cited sources establish WP:GNG. I am not asking why do you believe this subject is important. Ratnahastin (talk) 01:31, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

What is the definition of Notability according to you? Admantine123 (talk) 03:55, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Articles generally require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic. Ratnahastin (talk) 04:03, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

So you got in these sources published by scholarly journals. Admantine123 (talk) 05:43, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

No because you are yet to explain how any of these sources establish WP:GNG. Ratnahastin (talk) 07:11, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete Passing mentions don't count when it comes to establish notability. Dympies (talk) 03:39, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
• Keep: Clearly passes WP:GNG, many reputed media articles, journals available on internet! Youknow? (talk) 10:55, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Seems insignificant to begin with. Captain AmericanBurger1775 (talk) 16:31, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
• Keep: As per the sources/journals, the article obviously passes GNG; there's no reason for deletion of the same! Ekdalian (talk) 08:55, 1 October 2024 (UTC) — Note: An editor has expressed a concern that Ekdalian (talk • contribs) has been canvassed to this discussion. (diff)
• Keep – For those who still don't know, the article is about the Naxalite movement in Bhojpur, which started in the early 1970s. The topic is widely covered in scholarship and is clearly notable. I just needed to do a cursory search to find the following in-depth scholarly sources that are not even cited in the article, although most of the details covered in them are already summarised in it:

• Kala, Manju; Maharaj, R. N.; Mukherjee, Kalyan (1986). "Peasant Unrest in Bhojpur: A Survey". In Desai, A. R. (ed.). Agrarian Struggles in India After Independence. Oxford University Press. pp. 263–274. ISBN 978-0-19-561681-1. Archived from the original on 12 May 2021.

[Check from The Movement section onwards of p. 263, although previous pages are also relevant, as they give the movement's background]

• Sinha, Arun (1978). "The Awakening in Bhojpur". In Sen, Samar; Panda, Debabrata; Lahiri, Ashish (eds.). Naxalbari and After: A Frontier Anthology, Vol. 1. Kathashilpa. pp. 264–290. OCLC 1150867358. Archived from the original on 19 August 2019.

[this book's review: https://www.jstor.org/stable/4367846]

• Das, Arvind N. (1983). "Agrarian Change from Above and Below; Bihar 1947–78". In Guha, Ranajit (ed.). Subaltern Studies II: Writings on South Asian History and Society. Oxford University Press. pp. 221–226. ISBN 978-0-19-561502-9. Archived from the original on 25 September 2018.
• Banerjee, Sumanta (1984). India’s Simmering Revolution: The Naxalite Uprising. Zed Books. pp. 301–305. ISBN 978-0-86232-037-9. Archived from the original on 22 December 2023.

All of these sources give in-depth coverage of the Bhojpur movement. In fact, the article is already well-sourced and detailed. Having said that, the title of the article isn't good. It should be Naxalite movement in Bhojpur because that's how sources describe this movement, e.g. see here. Note that sources also describe it as Bhojpur movement (see here), although that title seems a bit ambiguous to me. - NitinMlk (talk) 19:16, 2 October 2024 (UTC)