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:: That article was previously deleted and had a sock-puppet problem. I previously raised this issue at [[WP:FTN]] (fringe theories noticeboard) this morning [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#Emil_Kirkegaard]. Also see discussion here [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Grayfell#Emil_Kirkegaard] [[User:Psychologist Guy|Psychologist Guy]] ([[User talk:Psychologist Guy|talk]]) 23:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC) |
:: That article was previously deleted and had a sock-puppet problem. I previously raised this issue at [[WP:FTN]] (fringe theories noticeboard) this morning [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#Emil_Kirkegaard]. Also see discussion here [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Grayfell#Emil_Kirkegaard] [[User:Psychologist Guy|Psychologist Guy]] ([[User talk:Psychologist Guy|talk]]) 23:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC) |
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== An editor has made repeated wholesale block deletions of material from a header on the page of a controversial BLP subject without adequate justification, and ignored Level-2 and level-4 warnings. Probable ideological motivation. What are my options? == |
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Another editor user has repeatedly made wholesale block deletion of material from the header of an article on a controversial BLP subject. The user in question has said there is no consensus without referring to any specific policy. I'm familiar with [[WP:Stonewalling]] and know that it's putting the cart before the horse to simply say "there's no consensus", and know that per [[Wikipedia:Revert only when necessary]] they should not be removing material in large blocks without discussion or attempts to improve it. The material they've deleted is based on around a dozen academic sources and represents the mainstream academic view of the subject. There have been extended discussions on the talk page but the editor in question has not participated in them. I left them lvl-2 and lvl-4 warnings for disruptive editing which they simply ignored. |
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I feel that they've essentially sabotaged the page and that their removal of material is probably ideologically motivated (for example, they've removed material unflattering to the subject but left material that isn't). The page is they've left it is a whitewash that ignores every academic view I've seen of the subject. What are my potential remedies? Unfortunately what I think they are trying to do is say that consensus opposes the material they removed (ie they disagree) and essentially stonewall to prevent this material from ever being re-added. [[User:Noteduck|Noteduck]] ([[User talk:Noteduck|talk]]) 00:48, 7 February 2021 (UTC) |
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Ishaan bommakanti 6548
Ishaan bommakanti 6548 (talk) 13:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Ishaan bommakanti 6548. Do you have a question? -- Hoary (talk) 13:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Yes.My question is How do you become an Administrator? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.212.247.211 (talk) 07:35, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Admins are elected by the community. There are few formal requirements but in practice, only long-term editors with specific use cases for the tools, few or no recent incidents of poor or controversial behavior and a demonstrable understanding of Wikipedia policy and common practice will succeed. Being an administrator does not grant you any additional authority when it comes to editing articles, engaging in discussions or carrying out most editing tasks. With their additional technical permissions, admins are only allowed to take uncontroversial actions (such as blocking vandals) or implement the outcomes of discussions between multiple editors (when there is consensus). — Bilorv (talk) 01:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
My submission at Articles for creation: Jakops (January 30)
Hello this is Joanna,
I uploaded "Jakops" on January 30, 2021.
We need help to publish this article, the person Jakops are a Famous Producer in Korea, Japan. We don't surely use to this tool, Wikipedia, but Me and my client will update references soon.
and I want to ask what is the exact mean about declined Submission?
"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia."
and how to solve this problem? What specific materials must be included in order for this article to meet the criteria? Are there any references to match this? or just examples? I saw many of references in Wikipedia, but still don't know how to solve this problem. If there any way to help us to meet then criteria, it might be really helpful using this tool to publish our article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joannaseok (talk • contribs) 02:25, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- By references, we mean reliable sources like newspapers, news sites, things like that. These sources must be reliable, and blogs/self-promoted links do not count as reliable. If you cannot find any good reliable sources, the subject might not qualify for a Wikipedia article. More specifically, "articles" #5, #6, #7 are not "references", in that they do not cite an actual source. "Articles" #3 and #4 seem to be of the same thing. You need to cite good sources on this subject, and be sure to insert citations on core portions of the article (name, discography). Aside from that, there are also some manual of style issues, and grammatical errors. By "we" and "client", do you mean you are doing this in partnership with someone also? Wikipedia strongly discourages people with a conflict of interest from making articles that they have a bias towards/against. You must inform others of any potential COI's you have. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 04:19, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- More specifically, Joannaseok, if you have a paid relationship, you need to publicly declare that on your user page (that is, which company you work for and for which client's behalf). You may use {{paid}} to do so. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:30, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Joannaseok: Based on what you wrote above, I'm afraid you might be unaware that Wikipedia is not here as a tool for anyone to promote anything. Please see WP:NOTPROMO. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 03:43, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- More specifically, Joannaseok, if you have a paid relationship, you need to publicly declare that on your user page (that is, which company you work for and for which client's behalf). You may use {{paid}} to do so. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:30, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Where can i find articles to edit?
I am looking for somewhere where i can find articles to edit. Thanks. Thank you. I know how to edit already so i should be fine. Starman2377 (talk) 19:54, 2 February 2021 (UTC) Starman2377 (talk) 19:54, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Starman2377, welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia:Task_Center is a good place to start, be sure that you have made familiar yourself with editing, for example at Help:Editing. Enjoy editing, hope my answer was of help. CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:03, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Starman2377, you may also want to subscribe to User:SuggestBot/Requests, where you can set the bot up to deliver suggested articles to your talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:29, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Starman2377 Thank you for trying to improve the encyclopedia. One thing you'll want to learn to do is preview your edits before saving them. If you accidentally add errors, you can always undo your edit by self-reverting. For example, when you tried to add the M134 Minigun to the main article template in the rotary gun section with this edit [[1]], you broke the template. I see you tried to fix it by making additional edits before giving up and leaving the broken template. You'll want to be a bit more careful in the future. If you can go back and fix it, it will help you learn editing better. You need the curly double brackets for the template ( {{ }} ), with the items separated by the pipe ( | ) symbol, but not the square brackets ( [[ ]] ) for the items in the template. Happy editing. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:52, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Starman2377 you can also try joining Wikipedia Projects that are within your interests. This would be easier for you to find articles that you are knowledgeable about or are interesting. For instance, I see that you have edited animation articles, you can check Anime and Manga project and see their open tasks. Good luck, Darwin Naz (talk) 23:00, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you
I have fixed my error and have also made my edit work. Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starman2377 (talk • contribs) 15:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm completely lost!
Hi, I'm trying to write a Wiki for the Doreen Valiente Foundation, and also the Centre For Pagan Studies, also one for the man who founded these 2 organisations, John Belham-Payne - I'm his widow. I keep being reminded that I am close to all of these subjects and have a conflict of interest, but honestly they are charities, and Im interested in telling the correct version of events in their development. Believe me, I am the only person who knows enough about these things to be able to or to be interested in writing a page. I'm doing a bit at a time, as I discover things from family and colleagues. Can you give me some suggestions on what I need to do to fulfil your criteria please? Is there someone who would "hold my hand"
Thank you in advance. Julie Joolspayne (talk) 12:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Joolspayne Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. One does not "write a wiki", as a wiki is a type of entire website of which Wikipedia is one example. One writes a Wikipedia article. I am sorry for your loss. I would say that if you just want to tell the world about your husband and the organizations he founded, and document their histories, there are other venues where that is permitted. Wikipedia is only interested in what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen to say about a topic, showing how the topic meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. Wikipedia content cannot be based on personal knowledge for verification purposes- again, there are places where you can post whatever you wish without these requirements. 331dot (talk) 12:13, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Courtesy links Draft:Centre For Pagan Studies and Draft:John Belham-Payne. Theroadislong (talk) 12:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- I have to say that, if true, "I am the only person who knows enough about these things to be able to or to be interested in writing a page" makes it sound as if "these things" don't belong on Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 13:29, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Given your close personal knowledge and connection to these proposed topics, you must include only information that rests on reliable source references. Not you, not family, not colleagues. Only published by people with no connection to the Centre or to John. If you cannot find reliable sources, no amount of information collecting and writing will succeed in becoming an article. The website of the Centre For Pagan Studies does not qualify as confirming notability. If you do find sources - no copying - as that is a forbidden copyright violation (a problem you ran afoul of about the Foundation). David notMD (talk) 14:49, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Well there are references to him in books like the biography of Doreen Valiente - Witch by Philip Heselton, The Charge of the Goddess book of poems by Doreen Valiente, etc . The Pagan Federation too, as he was an active committee member there. He spoke at The Parliament of World Religions there is a reference there. I'll start to rephrase his page and the others too. I think I've got the hang of it now. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joolspayne (talk • contribs) 14:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Life in Jesus Christ is good
The thing that I want to said is here, Lord is good all the time bcos he is the one that protect u and ur house, families, always we should praise him — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mazang biran Godwin (talk • contribs) 14:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Mazang biran Godwin: Thank you for reminding us of that. Also, please make sure to sign at the end of your message using
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. Jack Reynolds (talk to me!) (email me!!) 14:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC) - @Mazang biran Godwin: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. This is a place to ask questions about using Wikipedia. Do you have any such questions? 331dot (talk) 14:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Mazang biran Godwin: Please note that this is a global encyclopedia, and people of all backgrounds and beliefs come here to study and contribute to it. Discussions here and on other talk pages (like your user talk page) should focus on issues and questions related to this work. It's not a place to preach your faith. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 04:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
National Guard Bureau entry and edits
Good morning. One of my coworkers recently attempted to upload a revised entry for Wikipedia's page on the National Guard Bureau. A moderator with the pseudonym "MaterielScientist" promptly rejected the edits stating they "weren't constructive." My coworker has requested clarification on the moderator's discussion page, but not received any response. They then attempted to re-submit the edits and was, again, denied but this time by a different moderator who deemed the second submission as potentially disruptive to Wikipedia's terms. We would like to resolve this impasse so that we can upload our well-researched revision of the National Guard Bureau page. Please offer any guidance you may have on a way forward. 55.190.156.41 (talk) 14:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If you or your co workers work for the NGB or otherwise for the US federal government, you must review the paid editing policy and make the required formal declaration. There is discussion about this matter on the article talk page, Talk:National Guard Bureau. It appears the content was copied from other sources; I would suggest further discussion take place on the article talk page. If you work for the Bureau, you should not directly edit the article, but you may make a formal edit request on the talk page, detailing changes you feel are needed. The article should summarize what independent reliable sources state about the Bureau. 331dot (talk) 14:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- The addition of over 9 kB of material to National Guard Bureau by 47.223.210.254 and HistoryEditor2021 and reversion by Materialscientist and Thewolfchild were almost a month ago and there was a template notice and one response at User talk:47.223.210.254#January 2021. Now that y'all are notified, please discuss (at Talk:National Guard Bureau). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 04:42, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
References which link to media sites behind paywalls
Is there any purpose to references which link to media sites which are behind a paywall?
Example is "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_the_Midwife#cite_note-53"
This links to The Telegraph, which is a subscription only news source Alex Hudghton (talk) 22:05, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Alex Hudghton: That is fine. Sources do not require free or even easy access. See WP:PAYWALL. If you want to check what the source says, and don't have access, you can ask at WP:RX RudolfRed (talk) 22:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Alex Hudghton: It's possible that the reference was not behind a paywall when it was added. I've updated the reference with an archived version from the Wayback Machine so you can read it. GoingBatty (talk) 02:28, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
So, Wayback Machine is OK? - I did think of that but wasn't sure - thanks for the replies Alex Hudghton (talk) 08:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Alex Hudghton: Sort of. The original source still needs to be cited and considered reliable. The
|archive-url=
,|archive-date=
, and potentially|url-status=
parameters are added to give the user a link to the archived page at the Wayback Machine in case the original source is not available for whatever reason. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 05:02, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
How to add articles with a weblink to add information to a Wiki pagw
Hi, I want to submit online articles to add info to a Wiki Page Scoony11 (talk) 23:22, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Scoony11: I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you're trying to do. Could you make your question more specific? ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 01:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Scoony11, and welcome to the Teahouse. If you are, as you say, a close relative of Glenn Hetrick, then you should not be editing the article about him directly, but should be making edit requests on the talk page instead, according to PSCOI. For information about the (quite restrictive) rules on external links in articles, please see WP:External links. --ColinFine (talk) 12:30, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Userbox ideas
How long dose it take for a userbox idea to get made? I made a idea in December 31 last year. It's now Feb 3rd, and it has not been made, while all the others have been made. W JennilyW (talk) 23:35, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Perhaps ask at Wikipedia_talk:Userboxes/Ideas? -- Hoary (talk) 00:01, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @JennilyW: Or, make it yourself! Try tinkering around with the various settings that go into it. See WP:UBX. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 01:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @JennilyW: First, I advise patience. Everyone is volunteers, so it may take some time for your request to be processed. Second, you can try asking one of the users listed at Wikipedia:Userboxes#Users_who_make_userboxes_upon_request directly. If you go down that path, then update your previous request to state that you have asked someone directly to make it, so that there is not duplication of effort. RudolfRed (talk) 01:12, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- OK, thank you. JennilyW (talk) 02:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @JennilyW: You don't have to wait; you can build your own userbox using the Userbox template, like this:
UBX This user can create their own userbox - There are a couple of examples on my user page. --Verbarson (talk) 09:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Which is what User:Ganbaruby has already said, I've just noticed... --Verbarson (talk) 09:25, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Change a photo
Courtesy link: Allegra Edwards
Hi! Someone created a Wikipedia page about me and I am trying to replace the main photo that is used. The current photo is unflattering. How do I replace it?
Thanks! AllegraRoseE (talk) 02:10, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- AllegraRoseE, if you want a better photo, you can take one by yourself and upload it to Wikimedia Commons under a free license. Meaning that it cannot be copyrighted. However note that high quality photos are more welcomed than low quality. GeraldWL 02:31, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Gerald Waldo Luis, "Meaning that it cannot be copyrighted" is not accurate. AllegraRoseE, you can upload a picture to which you hold the copyright (eg a selfie, but not a picture taken by somebody else unless they have formally assigned you the copyright) to Wikimedia Commons, licensing it under a licence that allows anybody to use it for any purpose, but you will still hold the copyright. --ColinFine (talk) 12:38, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @AllegraRoseE: You should also not be editing the article about you, since you have a conflict of interest. After you upload your photo, you can post at Talk:Allegra Edwards using the {{request edit}} template to ask other people to update the photo or make any other changes. GoingBatty (talk) 02:34, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @AllegraRoseE: Hi, may I assume you would prefer this file already on Commons you uploaded? This could be done (although I would suggest cropping some of the empty space). --LordPeterII (talk) 00:07, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Refs
How do I put titles on refs? I added a ref to a page, and it was red and it said "Title=". How do I add it? JennilyW (talk) 02:57, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @JennilyW: You need to go into whatever citation template you're using and add
|title=
in it. Give the title after the=
. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:05, 4 February 2021 (UTC)- Hi JennilyW. The url isn't enough to identify the sourse since web pages move around. See the citation form at Template:Cite web and be sure to include the title of the page, the publisher (name of the website), and the access date for the page (the day you looked at it). StarryGrandma (talk) 03:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @JennilyW: ...like I did in this edit. It would be better if you found an independent reliable source instead of the company's Twitter post. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 03:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC) Okay.
- The only thing I could find was there Twitter post, but thanks for helping me out! JennilyW (talk) 03:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- I was going to reply to that last comment by saying that then it probably doesn't belong in the article, JennilyW. But having looked at it, and seen that the only references in that section are both Tweets (generally not considered reliable) from the company (not independent) and both dated before the stated release dates (crystal ball), and having searched for reliable independent sources about Loomian Legacy and failed to find any, I have removed the section. If you can find a reliable independent source, it can, of course be restored. But while dates are the kind of thing that we can often use non-independent sources for, a date at which they were going to release it is not a reliable source either for the fact of its release or for its release date. --ColinFine (talk) 15:46, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- The only thing I could find was there Twitter post, but thanks for helping me out! JennilyW (talk) 03:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @JennilyW: ...like I did in this edit. It would be better if you found an independent reliable source instead of the company's Twitter post. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 03:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC) Okay.
- Hi JennilyW. The url isn't enough to identify the sourse since web pages move around. See the citation form at Template:Cite web and be sure to include the title of the page, the publisher (name of the website), and the access date for the page (the day you looked at it). StarryGrandma (talk) 03:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Question from Phoenix 7119
Hi. I recently created an article with credible secondary sources about businessman and philanthropist, Wallace Rasmussen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Wallace_Rasmussen
I was told: “This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article.” However, I learned that other references about Rasmussen do exist. So, I located them and added them to my article. As it turns out, Rasmussen was a favorite interview subject of the late oral historian, Studs Terkel. Since Terkel’s oral histories were basically edited transcriptions of recorded interviews of his subjects, lacking very little direct “criticism” from Terkel himself, I located book reviews of Terkel’s books and cited them in my article. To maintain organization, I added all references to Terkel’s books about Rasmussen, as well as the aforementioned book reviews, to my article under the heading “Studs Terkel’s Oral Histories.”
Could you answer a few questions for me please: (1) Does this new section improve Rasmussen’s standing as a subject who “qualifies for a Wikipedia article?” 2) Is my new section, “Studs Terkel’s Oral Histories” sufficient/appropriate? Is the heading appropriate for Wikipedia? If not, what do you recommend?
I’m new to Wikipedia, so I would certainly appreciate your thoughts and assistance. Thank you for your time. Phoenix7119 (talk) 03:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Phoenix7119. If the reviews of Terkel's books devote significant coverage to Rasmussen, then they contribute to Rasmussen's notability and are useful in your draft. Otherwise, they are of no value in an article about Rasmussen but may possibly be useful in articles about Terkel and his books. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC
- Phoenix7119, I went through those book reviews. Some do not mention Rasmussen. Others mention him in passing but do not devote significant coverage to him. I noticed one that had a quotation from him but the author didn't spend more than a handful of words describing him. None appeared to devote significant coverage to him, as far as I saw, and to me, they do not add up to notability. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:52, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Cullen 328 Thanks for the advice. I'm going to use it to make the necessary changes to my article. Thanks so much for your time. Phoenix7119 (talk) 10:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
small question
in editing i use italics very often, so i have a question. when you italicize something, do you have to click off the italic button before hitting the next key or does it not matter? example: Doja Cat released her second album, titled Hot Pink. vs. Doja Cat released her second album, titled Hot Pink.
The difference between the two is that in one sentence, the period is in the italics and in the other the period is out. Does it make a difference? VersaceSpace is wondering why you would request an article when you could just make it yourself... 05:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- VersaceSpace, welcome to the Teahouse. Are you using the visual editor or source editor? Assuming you're using the visual editor, you'd have to turn it off before you start typing anything else. Please also provide a link to your user talk page in your signature. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @VersaceSpace: Leave the period out of the italics. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 05:44, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- VersaceSpace, I agree with Ganbaruby. The period is not a part of the album title, so it should be outside the italics. It makes no difference whether you are using the visual editor or the source editor, where you italicize with wikicode. The principle is the same. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:00, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- The visual editor is a little more finicky, as moving the caret to the last italicised character sets the caret to italicise any following text unless one remembers to turn it off.
Like the others, only the title should be italicised; external punctuation should not. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:25, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- The visual editor is a little more finicky, as moving the caret to the last italicised character sets the caret to italicise any following text unless one remembers to turn it off.
- VersaceSpace, I agree with Ganbaruby. The period is not a part of the album title, so it should be outside the italics. It makes no difference whether you are using the visual editor or the source editor, where you italicize with wikicode. The principle is the same. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:00, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
My edit did not appear.
My question is that I have edited the Tiger Trail Section of San Diego Zoo Safari Park Article as The cub,Moka currently resides in Lions,Tigers and Bears sanctuary but it is not appearing,As the headline says. Ishaan bommakanti 6548 (talk) 05:15, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Your content has been removed, at least twice. It's unsourced and poorly written trivia, and, at least the one time I removed it, it was in the middle of a reference. Meters (talk) 05:25, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Ishaan bommakanti 6548: You can see that your edits have been reverted by going to the San Diego Zoo Safari Park article and clicking the "View history" tab. GoingBatty (talk) 05:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- If you were asking about this last edit, it did not appear because it was embedded in the reference. Your text would have shown up at the bottom of the article in the list of references (unless it completely broke the ref, I didn't check). Meters (talk) 05:31, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Furthermore, your edit contained the word "currently". This is not generally allowed, per WP:CURRENTLY.--Shantavira|feed me 09:26, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Ishaan bommakanti 6548. I see you trying very hard to improve Wikipedia by editing articles about things that you know about, and adding information that is missing. I remember doing the same thing when I was new fifteen years ago. The trouble is that Wikipedia is not interested in what you know - just as it was (and is) not interested in what I know. Wikipedia is only interested in information which a reader next week or next month or next year has a way of verifying, so information which has been published in a reliable source. Unfortunately, we already have a huge amount of unsourced information in thousands of articles, mostly from long ago when editors were less careful about this: in my view, all that unsourced information has negative value for Wikipedia, because a reader has no way of checking whether or not it is correct. So now when somebody adds information without citing a published source, it doesn't improve Wikipedia, but further reduces its value. Adding sourced information usually adds to the value of Wikipedia, and so does adding a source to unsourced information which is already in an article. --ColinFine (talk) 16:00, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Transcluding an episode table from the main article
I am trying to add the episode table from List of Teacher's Pet episodes but when I try to add the List of Teacher's Pet episodes template, all of the content copied directly from the article will appear instead of just the episode table. Please tell me what to do FlutterDash344 (talk) 05:43, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @FlutterDash344: Could you clarify what you're trying to do? What are you copying, and where are you trying to put it? Template:List of Teacher's Pet episodes is not a thing, and the article List of Teacher's Pet episodes uses Template:Episode list. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 05:47, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Oh, okay. I will try to add Template:Episode list instead. FlutterDash344 (talk) 05:50, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @FlutterDash344: Is [2] what you were trying to do? It requires the target to be marked with
<onlyinclude>...</onlyinclude>
like [3] to indicate which parts should be transcluded. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @PrimeHunter: Yes, that was exactly what I was trying to do.FlutterDash344 (talk)
Measles page
I was hoping to add a short sentence in the Research section about the variety of strains of measles. This appeared to be a logical place to place it along with a reference that gives details of the strains. However the page is semi-protected so how should I proceed. HaraldW1954 (talk) 06:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @HaraldW1954: Make an edit request at the article's talk page. Preferably we want you to write out the exact sentence you want to add, and be sure to include reliable sources. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 07:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Article rejected due to notability issue
HI, my article got rejected due to credibility issue. I have submitted all the references and credits as required by the subject. Please tell me what do we, I really want to publish this article. Need Help Roninaks (talk) 07:04, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Roninaks: Draft:One was deleted because it was unambiguous promotion. I can't see what was originally in the draft before it was deleted, but Wikipedia is not a means of promotion since everything must be written in a neutral point of view. If you have a conflict of interest with the subject, you are strongly discouraged from creating an article about it. Please read the conflict of interest guideline and make any relevant disclosures before you try again. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 07:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- I can read it. The opening paragraph: Sreenath Gopinath (born September 05, 1993) is an Indian entrepreneur, social activist, e-commerce specialist, cybersecurity expert, innovator and Actor. His entrepreneurship and innovations are guided by his farsighted social perspective and his value-based core competencies has aided, in cofounding four start-up organizations, with positive returns on investments expanding over a time span of three years. And it continues in the same vein. It's a hagiography, obviously promotional. -- Hoary (talk) 07:34, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
HOW TO KNOW ARTICLE IS GOOD ENOUGH TO PUBLISH A PAGE
1. How to know my article is good enough to publish a page? 2. How do I publish a page? Does it automatically publish a page when my article is accepted after review? MariaWanders (talk) 07:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @MariaWanders: You've submitted Draft:M Lhuillier to the AfC process. A volunteer editor will give you a review; it may be accepted, in which your draft automatically becomes an article, or declined, where the editor will give you instructions on what to improve. There's a lot of drafts to review, so be patient! I am not a reviewer, but I can tell you that your draft will likely be declined because you did not demonstrate that the the subject fulfills the notability guideline. Please read WP:NCORP and find more independent, reliable sources that provide significant coverage about the subject. You also need more of these sources to back up every piece of information in the article. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 07:25, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Is my article approved?
Hello, I would like to know if the article I wrote on YesWeHack, a cybersecurity company, is published. I asked for an approval and someone kindly moved it from draft to the main page two days ago. I can now find it within Wikipedia but if I'm searching for it on a motor engine, with, for instance, "YesWeHack wikipedia", the page I created does not appear. My question is: is there a delay for the article to appear on a motor engine? Or should I do something else because the article was not properly published? Thank you in advance! Mathbsnd (talk) 09:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Mathbsnd, the article has been in the mainspace, so yes it has been approved. Wikipedia has no control on whether search engines display this site on their knowledge panel, although we know that they can display it. It's probably just a matter of luck. But that doesn't matter -- you made an article, and that's already great. GeraldWL 10:04, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Mathbsnd, the page isn't marked as reviewed yet so it's set to no_index, so likely won't appear in search engines. After it's reviewed or after 90 days, whichever is sooner, it'll be available for search engines to index. Regards, Zindor (talk) 11:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Per what Zindor wrote, Wikipedia has a new articles patrol process. Either it clears the no-index within 90 days, or if no one gets to it, happens automatically at 90 days. No way for you to speed up the process. David notMD (talk) 11:36, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- I have moved the article to draft as it appears to be a paid for article which bypassed the review process? Theroadislong (talk) 11:56, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Courtesy link: draft:YesWeHack TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 13:52, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- I have moved the article to draft as it appears to be a paid for article which bypassed the review process? Theroadislong (talk) 11:56, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Per what Zindor wrote, Wikipedia has a new articles patrol process. Either it clears the no-index within 90 days, or if no one gets to it, happens automatically at 90 days. No way for you to speed up the process. David notMD (talk) 11:36, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Mathbsnd, the page isn't marked as reviewed yet so it's set to no_index, so likely won't appear in search engines. After it's reviewed or after 90 days, whichever is sooner, it'll be available for search engines to index. Regards, Zindor (talk) 11:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Article Assistance - SysCAD
Hi, I am looking for some assistance with Draft:SysCAD. If anyone would be available to review it would be greatly appreciated. DanMunchie (talk) 10:34, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- (i) When you say "principals", you mean what are conventionally spelt "principles". (ii) The draft is only four sentences long. If this is all that can be said about the subject matter, is the subject matter notable? -- Hoary (talk) 13:21, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Hoary for the typo fix. Similar packages Aspen HYSYS and PRO/II have short entries as well - it is industry-specific software so the detail is not critical for the public entry. There was an older edit with more detail [[4]] but I was previously told to cut this back as it read like a product sheet. I believe notability has been established with references, but I would like some additional feedback if this is not the case please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DanMunchie (talk • contribs) 13:04, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Making a wiki page
can anyone make a wiki page for me 103.151.184.206 (talk) 12:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Almost certainly not, unless you make a proposal that's somehow attractive. -- Hoary (talk) 13:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not social media. Subjects of biographical articles must meet specific definitions of notability. Editors are strongly advised against trying to create an article about themselves. David notMD (talk) 13:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Help. My article was deleted.
My article was speedy deleted. I want to revise it so it meets the Wikipedia Guidelines but I need access to it. What can I do? Dcfmagic (talk) 13:19, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- That's not possible. I've seen it: it looks as if it's written for a company brochure. This website isn't a congeries of corporate advertising; it's an encyclopedia. If you believe that your subject is notable, then start from scratch, using not what the company says about itself and its birds, but instead what independent, reliable, published sources say. -- Hoary (talk) 13:27, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
@hoary I understand and apologize. I did not intend to cause an issue. Is there any way I can have a copy of the article, for my own purposes. I am requesting a copy of my work, not to be published. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcfmagic (talk • contribs) 13:56, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Dcfmagic The content can still be seen here Draft:Miliquin Macaws, and yes it is totally inappropriate for an encyclopaedia article. Theroadislong (talk) 15:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- I am afraid that I had to delete about 11.6 KB of text for being a copyright violation of https://tcfeathers.com, which appears to be a copyrighted website. Please never copy texts from the internet onto Wikipedia. From my experience, 99% of the texts not written for Wikipedia are also unsiutable for Wikipedia, even if we could get the legal stuff sorted. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Dcfmagic The content can still be seen here Draft:Miliquin Macaws, and yes it is totally inappropriate for an encyclopaedia article. Theroadislong (talk) 15:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Update Content - Massachusetts House of Representatives' 17th Middlesex district
We are reaching out from the Office of State Representative Vanna Howard of Massachusetts 17th Middlesex District. Vanna Howard is the newly-elected State Representative and now serves the 17th Middlesex District. Could your team please update the content on your page:
Massachusetts House of Representatives' 17th Middlesex district https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_House_of_Representatives%27_17th_Middlesex_district
Thank you! 73.142.12.88 (talk) 13:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Mai
- Hello, IP. Edit requests should go on the talk page, backed up by a reliable source. Thanks, Giraffer (talk·contribs) 14:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Article gets only a few views per day, and the Talk page, less, so that suggestion will not work. I will see if I can finds a newspaper citation for Howard being the State Representative, and add that information. David notMD (talk) 15:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- It occurred to me that the appointment of Vanna to that level of position in a US state should really be announced somewhere official - like the state's website. And after a bit of digging, I found it: https://malegislature.gov/Legislators/Members/House. So I wonder: Is a state's website a sufficiently reliable source for Wikipedia? (It seems to me that it should be higher up the scale than even the most reputable newspaper.) And if not, why bother including the website on the US State infobox? --Verbarson (talk) 17:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- IMO, either or both. Do you want to do it? And while at it, use that .gov citation to update all of the other Districts that have new representatives? David notMD (talk) 18:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Consider it done [[5]] (But only for Vanna Howard) --Verbarson (talk) 20:15, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- and [[6]] to put the overview right. --Verbarson (talk) 20:23, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- IMO, either or both. Do you want to do it? And while at it, use that .gov citation to update all of the other Districts that have new representatives? David notMD (talk) 18:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
RS-fail
I made an addition to a page. It was almost immediately deleted with the tag "RS-fail". What does that mean ? 78.144.85.108 (talk) 15:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello IP, RS stands for Reliable source. In this case, it looks like your edit was reverted because you didn't provide a source to back it up. See WP:CITE and WP:RS for more information. Thanks, Pahunkat (talk) 15:51, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. I probably won't continue this matter; for the same reason I don't get into discussions on Twitter.
78.144.85.108 (talk) 16:25, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
just started
Just started,
Dear all, I just started mostly because I have seen some missing citations for which I know what to link. Now I have seen some sections which were a bit messy according to my clinical knowledge. When do you think it is the right time to start rearranging structures of pages (e.g. creating a new structure, linking others which are totally independent? Etc)
any advice is appreciated. Giorgio Didiogiorgio (talk) 16:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Didiogiorgio and welcome to the Teahouse. Those with expertise in medicines and related technical areas are always very welcome here. You need to take a read of WP:MEDRS, which covers some of the specially high standards Wikipedia sets for medicine-related articles. You won't run into trouble if you use reliable WP:SECONDARY sources. You might want to comment on the Talk Page of any article where you propose to make a major restructuring, in the hope of attracting other editors from the various Projects that are interested in those articles — and of course you could join those Projects yourself. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- From looking at your past edits, you appear to be off to a good start. One small thing - refs are placed after punctuation. If you are starting to make major changes to an article, be explicit in your Edit summaries, and it may be wise to create a new section at the Talk page of the article, explaining your intent. Keep in mind that what you know is true is useful, but verification with citations is essential. General rule is BRD: be BOLD in your edits, but if REVERTED, take to Talk for a DISCUSSION. David notMD (talk) 18:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Can image in userbox be copyright issues?
Hi, I put some userbox with images on my page, I just wanna know could I get in trouble for putting images in the boxes.? Max20characters (talk) 16:20, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- As your user page stands, the flag of the USA and the colour blue aren't going to cause any copyright problems. Have a look at File:English language.svg it may be a better match for your text in the userbox. - X201 (talk) 16:46, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hello, Max20characters, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia. Any image that is already in Wikimedia Commons (as those two are) may be used by anybody, anywhere, for any purpose, as long as they give attribution. Adding them to a page in Wikipedia automatically gives that attribution, because it is at the image's page in Commons. An image that has been uploaded to Wikipedia rather than Commons may or may not be available: you would need to look at the image's description page to see whether it was free or non-free. If it is free (public domain, or licensed with a free licence such as CC-BY-SA), then you can use it anywhere. If it is non-free, then you may use it only if such use meets all ten criteria in NFCC - which include that it may be used only in articles, so non-free images may not be used on a user page. --ColinFine (talk) 16:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- ColinFine, ok thank you for the info, X201 thanks for the info and image, i will use it for my userbox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Max20characters (talk • contribs) 17:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Mobile Edit Functionality
I'm using an android phone on firefox. I can't seem to edit more than a single section of an article (i.e. content below headers like See also, External links, Further reading, etc.) and was wondering if there's a way to do this that I've overlooked. It's quite frustrating because I can't move a section that's in the wrong place or make minor edits to multiple sections at the same time. I also noticed there doesn't appear to be a "minor edit" checkbox while using mobile. Why is this? Especially when most mobile edits are probably going to be minor. TipsyElephant (talk) 17:22, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @TipsyElephant: The mobile version (as well as the app) don't have all the features of desktop. Editing the whole page doesn't seem to be supported on mobile, as well as edit checkboxes (minor edits, watchlist, etc.) If you do need them, I personally recommend using the desktop site, and changing your skin to either Timeless or monobook (with responsive mode turned on). it still can be a bit difficult due to the narrow screen size, but this solution allows you to use all desktop features on a mobile device. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Seek help with draft article on Joseph Conforte
Hello! I need a reviewer or two to help with my draft article about the infamous Joseph Conforte. My draft has been rejected, saying I need to avoid Peacock Words and I need more citations, but Paul Carpenter, the editor, did not provide any detail of what word or fact needs my attention. Can anyone help me? Owilli2019 (talk) 18:21, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Courtesy link: Draft:Joseph Conforte Possibly (talk) 19:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Owilli2019 Welcome to The Teahouse. Sentences like "Thus even in death, Joe Conforte seems to mock the world by not having proof he is gone." certainly have no place in an encyclopedia, we just need the dry referenced facts, much of your content has no sourcing. Wikipedia summarises what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic. Theroadislong (talk) 18:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note a significant article on Joe Conforte already exists, but was converted into a redirect due to sourcing issues. Possibly (talk) 19:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Owilli2019: This is a very large article, which may make things difficult for a first article,as it requires so many fixes. The biggest problem is that lacks independent sources for the many claims it makes. I removed the references to an unpublished interview, as this is not the kind of sources we use. If you want to get this article published, I suggest cutting it down to three paragraphs. Then, after reading WP:RS andWP:SIGCOV, find five independently published articles that talk about what you have said in the Wikipedia article. Material that you have collected on your own through research, as you mentioned on my talk page, is not a WP:RS. Thanks. Possibly (talk) 19:38, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Owilli2019: - I think he deserves an article, but the sourcing is poor, and it's not written in the correct style, as others have pointed out above. I identified several sources and put them on the talk page. I recommend you read the sources, as well as the Rolling Stone source you already use, write the article based on what is in them (in your own, non-florid words), and use that as the basis for your draft. Save what you have now as a text file for future use. Ping me when you're done and if it looks good, I'll move it over the redirect. Then you can gradually add more of the info from your saved file as you can source it. The link for the resource is WP:SIGCOV. Good luck! TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 20:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Fantastic! I'm learning... Owilli2019 (talk) 20:56, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Adding content
Courtesy link: Lisa Daniely
Just made first two edits, adding to an actor’s filmography. Appear in red & not the expected blue despite trying to get the wording correct. They are existing headings. Clearly I have not got it quite right. Guidance please. Oldfilmguy (talk) 19:28, 4 February 2021 (UTC) Oldfilmguy (talk) 19:28, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Oldfilmguy: You need to enter the article titles as is. For example, it should just be Scotland Yard (film series) and Sherlock Holmes (1984 TV series). You can use a pipe trick (adding a
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after the closing parenthesis before the closing square brackets) to remove the disambiguator. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:37, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Wiki Engine
Hi, what "wiki engine" does Wikipedia use? For example, wikipedia.org, wiktionary.org, and wikimedia.org seem to use the exact same website design but another wiki website fandom.com looks completely different. I would really like to know. Is it called "MediaWiki"?
Thanks 47.150.227.254 (talk) 20:02, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @47.150.227.254: Yes, Wikipedia as well as (AFAIK) fandom use The MediaWIki engine. The funny thing is that the MediaWiki engine can produce very diverse html output. Depending on the installed skins, the output of the engine may vary significantly. For example, Wikipedia and it's affliates use vector (the default), [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?useskin=cologneblue Cologne Blue, monobook, Timeless, modern and minerva (Default for Mobile devices) depending on the user preferences. The joke about this is that even those skins aren't fixed: many things can still be changed by editing MediaWiki:Common.css (if you have the edit previliges). Fandom.com seems to be using a skin called "Oasis", based on their Special:Version page (I have chosen a random Wiki in this case). Victor Schmidt (talk) 20:12, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you so much! :-) @Victor Schmidt:
47.150.227.254 (talk) 20:20, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
What is the procedure around disputed edits, or, how do I get consensus?
Hi
A week and a half ago I came across this edit [7] while browsing recent changes (side question: how do people do nice wiki-links to a specific edit?) I boldly reverted the change since I felt after looking at the description of the movie that it was very much related to Chabad, and I suspected that the IP-editor's reason for removing it might have been more because it was critical of the religion than because it was unrelated to it. However, the established user Sir Joseph disagreed with me, and reverted my reversion: [8]. I then thought the right thing to do was to take the discussion to Sir Joseph's talk page (right?), and after some discussion we agreed that singling out just the one critical movie was inconsistent. Either all cultural works not specifically about the religion should be removed, or the movie in question should be allowed to stay. See discussion here. Lastly, Sir Joseph told me: "You might want to post on the article talk page and see about consensus", so I did just that: [9].
Now a week and a half has passed without comment, so I thought I should ask you guys how this process is supposed to work. Do I just go ahead with my preferred option of re-inserting the originally removed movie if nobody answers after a while? In that case, how long is a while? Do I directly ask some prolific editors of the article for comment on their talk pages, or what?
Thanks in advance for any help! Knuthove (talk) 20:30, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Knuthove: You can use Template:diff with the specific revision numbers to make a very nice link. Finding consensus on smaller articles can be a bit tricky, because they are poorly trafficked. However, if someone reverts you, they are an ideal person to talk it out with. If only SirJoseph is active on that article, then maybe its better to just talk it out with him. If you can't come to an agreement, you can always ask for a third opinion formally. Formal dispute resolotuion also exists. Whenever talking about specific editors on a talk page, it is best to ping them using Template:ping, as otherwise they probably won't see your message. AdmiralEek (talk) 21:05, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- As an add-on, if you just want to show the changes between a revision and the one right before it, use {{dif}}, where the first parameter takes the ID number of the resulting revision. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:40, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- @AdmiralEek:@Tenryuu: I'll try talking to Sir Joseph again and see if we can come to an agreement. Thanks a lot for your comments, and thanks for the information on diff-links and pings! I wasn't aware that templates were used for so much here, even though I now realize I have been using some of them — like Template:citation needed — for a long time. Thanks again! Knuthove (talk) 16:50, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- As an add-on, if you just want to show the changes between a revision and the one right before it, use {{dif}}, where the first parameter takes the ID number of the resulting revision. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:40, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
What merits a new section?
Hello. A few months ago, I added a new section to a Wikipedia article about a politician and a "scandal" he took part in. I won't go into too much detail, but he hit someone with his truck on purpose and went to court for it. It was removed for being previously being mentioned (albeit in passing), but I went into detail about the subject and the backlash the politician received. Are there any rules on when to add a new section? Deathconsciousness (talk) 20:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- WP:UNDUE would definitely help! WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 20:52, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- You added a lot of detail about a 2008 incident already briefly covered in the article, that ended in a reckless driving misdemeanor and a settled civil suit. I agree WP:UNDUE applies. David notMD (talk) 21:24, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
How to add a name on the Bossa Nova Singers wiki page
I want to add Bianca Rossini under the "B" category on the Bossa Nova Singers wiki page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Bossa_nova_singers&oldid=prev&diff=1004876725
I do not understand the instructions given, they are not clear.
Best, Patrick Lockwood Patrick Lockwood (talk) 22:17, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Patrick Lockwood, and welcome to the Teahouse. You do not add entries to a Category: you add the category to articles. So what you would need is to add the category to the Wikipedia article Bianca Rossini, which doesn't currently exist (that's why the link is red). If she meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then an article could be written about her. You are welcome to create it, but be aware that creating a new article is a very difficult task for an inexperienced editor. Alternatively, you could try and interest somebody else in doing so: either at Requested articles (though the takeup is very low there) or at a suitable WikiProject such as WikiProject Dance or WikiProject Women in Red. Once the article is written and accepted into the encyclopaedia, then it can be added to the category. --ColinFine (talk) 23:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
John F Mazzaferro article has Problems
So I don't even know what to do with this article: John F Mazzaferro. The person that made the article has been told on his talk page about COI, specifically in relation to this author. It's basically a list of links, and it's related to a living person. I genuinely have no clue what template I'd even mark it with. I kinda don't think he's notable enough but I don't really have any experience with checking that. Please help, this one is too much for me. Xurizuri (talk) 01:57, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Xurizuri, I've gone ahead and moved it to draftspace, as it doesn't really meet any article standards. It seems the original editor is inactive, so if anyone feels like working on it, now's the time. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:01, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Tenryuu, thank you! Is there anything else that needs to be done with the article? (other than writing it into a functional article) --Xurizuri (talk) 02:05, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Xurizuri, only that it should be worked on every once in a while; inactive drafts are procedurally deleted six months after their last edit. When it's ready slap a {{subst:submit}} on it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:39, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Or tag it with Proposed deletion. Mazzaferro wrote several (5? 7?) technical books back in the early 1990s. A quickie search found nothing about him, just lists of the books. I cannot see how this can be rescued. David notMD (talk) 08:33, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Xurizuri, only that it should be worked on every once in a while; inactive drafts are procedurally deleted six months after their last edit. When it's ready slap a {{subst:submit}} on it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:39, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Tenryuu, thank you! Is there anything else that needs to be done with the article? (other than writing it into a functional article) --Xurizuri (talk) 02:05, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
I also received similar toxicity from a Wikipedia editor
In 2018, I'd watched the premier of a film about four very well-known British Dames, all of whom are elderly, and highly-respected. They've appeared in many loved films, plays, and television series. I wrote a short article about the film for Wikipedia, with a selection of good links to their individual pages, and other things that were of interest. It was well thought out, neutral, and a more than a good start. By no stretch was it a promotion, or mentioned media companies. It wasn't adoring, but simply factual. The criticism I received from a Wikipedia editor was toxic. And this person removed the article, despite there being thosands of similar short articles on Wikipedia. Mine was certainly longer than some of the "stubs" I sometimes read. So, where I used to always contribute to the annual fund raiser, I don't now. 'R', London, 5 Feb 2021. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.225.136 (talk) 02:30, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello R, it can be disappointing to be at the receiving end of criticism that feels unwarranted and/or harsh. Unfortunately it is hard to comment on what happened here since you did not mention the title of the article. Being curious, I tried to find which film it might have been you were writing about – Nothing Like a Dame from 2018 seems like a likely candidate, but there is an article about that film at Nothing Like a Dame (film) and I can't see any trace of that having been deleted. If you refer to the comments posted to User talk:86.135.13.28 about the earlier draft Draft:Nothing Like a Dame (2018 film), there is no criticism there, only a standard information template about what the draft would need in order to be published. The draft was deleted six months later, and only because it had been untouched for six months, which is also explained in the notice.
- I might be completely wrong and you might be referring to something else, but unless you give us a little more information, there is not much we can do to help. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 15:42, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Give feedback on Ashish Chanchalani
I saw the draft Draft:Ashish chanchalani. There were some mistakes in this draft that I fixed. Now I think the draft Ashish chanchalani is worth publishing. If you give your opinion and find some mistake, correct it, publish. Marwadi Indian (talk) 03:00, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- It awaits a review. At the top, one reads: "Review waiting, please be patient. / This may take 3 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order." This means what it says. Please be patient. -- Hoary (talk) 04:48, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Why is the title not "Ashish Chanchlani"? David notMD (talk) 08:39, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
@David notMD, Actually the title Ashish Chanchlani is protected by administrators. Marwadi Indian (talk) 10:35, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- So, this is an attempt to again create an article about the person Ashish Chanchlani by giving it the working title "Ashish Chanchalani" because the original was deleted and salted? David notMD (talk) 10:42, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- There is no "mistake" that can be "fixed". The community has recognised the fact that this person does not meet the notability requirements. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashish Chanchlani from July 2020, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashish A. Chanchlani from August 2020, and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Ashish Chanchlani from October 2020. Non-notable people can become notable, but the draft clearly shows that nothing has changed since October 2020 (and apparently not since 2017 when articles about this person were first being deleted, re-created, and deleted again.) Asking volunteer reviewers to donate their own time to review this article is not productive or helpful to Wikipedia, and creating it under yet another article is a form of gaming the system. --bonadea contributions talk 14:38, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
I Understand you deleted my edit on Yu-GI-Oh! GX but...Why? i can explain.
A wall of text that isn't a question. Giraffer (talk·contribs) 08:47, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
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Well...I Am The YouTuber Lightning Alexis. i got famous thanks to making AMVs by someone more famous inspiring me. however year ago i did actually find and spoke to Shin Yoshida at a japanese social media. it was very hard to find him. back at that day before i left the japanese media after my question got answered privately i copied and pasted what Shin told me into a personal document of mine because i want to reveal an official yugioh canon relationship: Alexis Rhodes/Asuka Tenjoin and Jesse Andersen/Johan Andersen. a lot of people argue with my fans about if there's any proof of Alexis loving Jesse instead of Jaden. yesterday i exposed and revealed to everyone on YouTube what one of the writers Shin Yoshida explained to me in japanese about if Alexis and Jesse are in a relationship or not. year ago at a japanese social media i asked Yu-Gi-Oh! GX's writer in private about if there's a relationship between Alexis and Jesse. Shin Yoshida confirmed in japanese to me that Alexis and Jesse ended up together offscreen in Episode 179 Farewell Judai! a Tearful Graduation Ceremony and after the confirmation and explanations, Yoshida requested me to leave immediately duo to this conversation between us only. at late February 2020 i exposed to the internet and YouTube, Alexis and Jesse's canon relationship without proofs of them liking each other which caused me to argue with most people and fans and get bullied by them for months until i faked apologizing to the fans about lying to them without proofs because i know i did actually talk to the writer in private at japanese social media that got shutdown since the conversation ended and is encrypted in private sections the writer keeps for himself. i faked my apologies out of fear against the fans and people that bullied me and mistreated me and as a result of the bullying i quit YouTube for a week until i returned by moving forward from what happened yet i proved myself right to the fans and people by revealing yesterday the proof of Alexis and Jesse in a relationship canonically. after i exposed and revealed Shin Yoshida's answer and explanations to me in japanese, fans and people became outraged and anxious after Alexis and Jesse are officially canon like Sakura and Sasuke from the Naruto Anime. some fans killed themselves duo to heartbreak and some fans riot against my fans who are hyped and happy by Alexis and Jesse officially canon. because of Shin Yoshida's confirmation about a relationship that he and Kazuki developed but couldn't show the dance and how Alexis and Jesse ended up together, their reason for not showing the affections and how Alexis and Jesse like each other was because they didn't want to upset their fans including while still developing Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's at the year 2008. i proved the fans that bullied me wrong as i was mistreated for a year duo to showing no proof until i finally showed what Shin told me at the japanese social media. while Alexis and Jesse are canon next to Yuma and Kotori, fans are questioning about Akiza and Yusei if the two kissed offscreen or not. Kazuki Takashi stated years ago that Yusei knew Akiza loves him and he didn't return her feelings but gets together with her later in their lives. duo to Yoshida's confirmation also from year ago my Alexis and Jesse AMVs are also officially canon and relevant. heartbroken and angry fans that prefer Jaden with Alexis however blame Shin Yoshida and Kazuki Takahashi for making Alexis and Jesse a couple offscreen in a cut script and writing of Yu-Gi-Oh! GX Episode 179. the fans that are hyped however are happy and thank me for exposing the truth and proof of their favorite characters ending up together and that Kazuki and Yoshida are blessing writers and directors for keeping a secret for many years. additional Jaden and Alexis fans are also suffering deep depression and traumas since Shin Yoshida's confirmation got revealed. Alexis and Jesse ended up together in Episode 179 offscreen despite that Jaden and Alexis are more popular and my fans and i celebrate today Yoshida's Explanations and Answer. it's all true. i swear. i did suffer a lot back then. it made me stronger because i don't give up on revealing the truth. this is what Shin Yoshida told me year ago when i spoke to him privately in his japanese social media after i requested to meet him: アスカはジュダイを愛しているが、他の誰かを愛しているので彼に告白するのをやめた。十分なスポットライトが得られなかった2人のキャラクターの間のより成熟した発展を探求したいと思いました。卒業パーティーでアスカとヨハンが踊る脚本を作りましたが、当時5Dの開発を始めていたため、画面に放映できませんでした。あすかと十代の関係を望んでいる観客を怒らせたくなかったので、脚本をあきらめました。あすかと十代を一緒に作りたかったのですが、ユーベルとヨハンのせいでできませんでした。 Johanは、彼がどれほど特別で成熟しているかという理由でJudaiの分身であり、AsukaとJohanの開発の間に削除されたスクリプトがありました。さなえいは、アンデルセンが成熟していることから、十代よりもヨハンを好むことを認めた。あすかは未来へと進み、一緒に旅に出たヨハンと一緒に先生になります。これは私たちの間だけであり、あなたは私たちの会話を聴衆に公開することはできません。はいあなたの質問に答えるために。 Asuka x Johanは、私たちが見せることができなかった開発を彼らに与えたので、カノンです。私は今あなたの去りを要求するかもしれません。ご質問ありがとうございます。 |
that's the proof of Alexis and Jesse canonically in relationship. he confirmed it himself. it wasn't easy to find him and it's very hard to get his or Kazuki's attentions. i didn't give up however because i believed in myself to find the writer. the edit was based on what i experienced back then year ago. everything i suffered until now...i suffered the most in life. i wish my edit will stay....i study computing at college and it's tough but i'm really good at it somehow. i hope i'll get more appreciation. i doubted myself too much in life. i'm tired of people bullying me for exposing a canon yugioh pairing. Alexis fantrust (talk) 07:37, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- CliffsNotes, please? Nobody is going to read a mighty wall-o-text, much less some which includes text that most of us can't read and can't trust Google Translate to not screw up (as it tends to falter on Japanese). —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 08:37, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Alexis fantrust Before I went half-blind trying to finish reading all that, I got a sense that you have unpublished information that led to your edit at Yu-Gi-Oh! GX, which was reverted by another editor (not by anyone here at Teahouse). The next proper step is to start a discussion on the Talk page of the article. I strongly recommend keeping it short. David notMD (talk) 08:43, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Duly started. Kind of. -- Hoary (talk) 09:39, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Net Worth (Forbes & Bloomberg)
I was new to Wikipedia and I had a question to ask you guys. I usually use Bloomberg Billionaire Index to edit on Wikipedia pages. I usually don't use Forbes to edit. But, some of my edit were removed by the same user and the user is an experience user. I do not violate any rules in Wikipedia & I just edit those billionaire's net worth with the reference & evidence on my edit (date, time, link, access date & much more) But they are replacing Bloomberg Billionaire Index with Forbes. Can anyone tell me why?? LohShiSan2004 (talk) 07:47, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Features of "authority control" and how to improve its correct reflection
Can you explain or just correct it?
Why does the page of Alexei Eryomin not reflect all 9 parameters of "authority control" reflected here [10]?
Even on ptWiki and esWiki - 5 parameters are reflected [11], and on enWiki only 2? Noophelia 2.0 (talk) 09:21, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Noophelia 2.0, welcome to the Teahouse. Wikidata stores identifiers at A L Eryomin (Q87055226). Each Wikipedia language codes which of them to show, if the language even has a feature to show them. The English Wikipedia has Template:Authority control. You can post suggestions to Template talk:Authority control. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:42, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Issue with Grevys zebra article
It says it’s subgenus is Dolichohippus but the zebra article says all zebras are in the sub genus Hippotigris does anyone know if the Grevys zebra or the zebra article the true sub genus for the Grevys zebra — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.254.10.148 (talk) 09:34, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Both have been used. See Grévy's zebra#Taxonomy and naming and Zebra#Taxonomy and evolution. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:49, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Question about a notice advising me to "Find sources".
I've had a notice on a draft that I have pretty much completed, which says:
Find sources: Google (books · news · newspapers · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · NYT · TWL
The page that I have created is about the UK author Ron Weighell. I assume that "sources" means other references to the subject (Ron Weighell)? If so, I have already added a bibliography, to cover books. And what does "WP" stand for?
Thanks in advance for advice. I am keen to get the page about Ron Weighell published, not only as a source of reference, but as a lasting memorial to his work (he passed in December 2020).
Best wishes and stay safe,
Nick Goodall Nick Goodall (talk) 13:10, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Nick Goodall, and welcome to the Teahouse. I have added a header to Draft:Ron Weighell, by which you can submit it for review when it is ready; but I am afraid that it is nowhere near ready. The main problem is indeed lack of sources. What you have done is to build an entire, elaborate house, without preparing the foundations, or even checking that the ground is firm. Independent, reliably published sources are the foundations on which any Wikipedia article must be built, because only information from a reliably published source may be included in a Wikipedia article. At present your draft does nothing to establish that Weighell meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and until it does at least that, the draft has no chance of being accepted (that's what I mean by "checking the ground is firm": if Weighell does not in fact meet these criteria, then all the work you have done to build your draft will have been wasted). Please read Help:YFA, and V if you haven't already.
- Other points: the list of his works is far too long: a representative selection may appear, but Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Note also that Wikipedia is not a memorial site. It is an encyclopaedia, consisting of neutrally written articles (which your draft is not) about Notable subjects (by Wikipedia's definition, which Weighell may or may not meet), based almost entirely on what independent reliably published sources say (which both the language and the detail in your draft suggest to me that it is not this either). Also There is no deadline.
- Signing this reply, because I failed to: --ColinFine (talk) 14:45, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- (e/c) Hi Nick Goodall. Because proper sourcing and their use is the lifeblood of Wikipedia of Wikipedia articles and their content, with all of our core content policies and guidelines, such as notability, verifiability, neutral point of view, and no original research, converging on aspects of sourcing, the AfC submission template naturally includes a section for "Editor resources", which provides these links as suggestions to places to search for sources as a facilility for users to use, if needed.
Their use would not be to find more works written by the author subject of your draft, but sources to cite in it to demonstrate his notability and verify the information content. In that regard, the draft will be declined at this time, because it does not demonstrate either notability, nor is its content verified. You have cited a single source, for one statement, when the entire draft needs sourcing.
As to your second question, "WP" is short for "Wikipedia" and its use as as alias shortcut is very useful here (in fact, I am in the midst of composing a page specifically regarding its use, that's not yet done, but you might find useful even in its unfinished stage: User talk:Fuhghettaboutit/Help:WP Protocol). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:49, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Response from Nick Goodall
Many thanks for the assistance. I'm not sure if here is the correct method to reply to you. Unfortunately, I did not see the information about a header having been added to facilitate submission for review until after I had submitted it.
I understand the concept of notability and firm foundations from what you have said. It will take me a little while to get my head fully around the concept of sources, but basically it seems to be independent, reliable, online sources that mention Weighell or his work.
I do not entirely understand the rationale behind what you said about the list of his works being far too long and indiscriminate. I would have thought that it is more important for a bibliography to be complete and comprehensive rather than selective? Weighell was no J. K. Rowling but I assume that her entry contains a complete list of her work? However, I could remove references to anything that appeared in journals as opposed to printed (mostly hardback) books, if you think that would help.
Thanks also for explaining the abbreviation WP - I hit my forehead with my hand when I read that!
Finally, I understand about WP (I'm a fast learner) not being a memorial site. It's my intention for the entry to preserve references to his work, rather than the man, but I will see what I can do to make his biography more neutral.
Best wishes,
Nick Goodall (adding a signature as I just found out how to) --Nick Goodall (talk) 16:54, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello again, Nick. Sources do not have to be online, as long as they have been reliably published (so that an interested reader could get hold of them, eg through a major library). If they are available online, then it's helpful to provide a URL, but except in the case of web-only sources, that is a convenience, not an essential part of the citation.
- I take back what I said about the bibliography: for my taste, an article that consists mostly of lists of works is unbalanced, but looking at BIBLIO, I see that it says "Complete lists of works, appropriately sourced to reliable scholarship (WP:V), are encouraged, particularly when such lists are not already freely available on the internet". --ColinFine (talk) 16:34, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- COURTESY: Draft:Ron Weighell needs HUGE amounts of work. Biographical articles are not biographies. Cut everything that cannot be attributed to published sources. Create sections. See Terry Pratchett for an article ranked Good Article as example. Not saying your article needs 187 references, but it needs more than one. Given submitted, it is possible (likely) that your submission will be declined before you can improve it. Despair not. Work on it, then resubmit. David notMD (talk) 16:48, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello again, Clearly I still have a lot to do to get the article to comply with WP standards to a sufficient extent that it would stand a chance of being published. I will endeavour to complete this work over the coming weeks. Is it safe to assume that the draft will not be deleted by an administrator? Or would it be preferable for me to recreate the article in my Sandbox instead and work on improvements there? Pardon my lack of knowledge of WP processes and standards. It is my intention to learn on the job, as opposed to first gaining a comprehensive knowledge of WP processes and standards before writing an article. --Nick Goodall (talk) 12:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Your Declined once, not resubmitted draft is a safe place to work on improving the draft. No deadline. Abandoned drafts are deleted at six months, but not those with progress being made. David notMD (talk) 17:49, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Please advice on bringing the Article on main wikipedia after getting shifted to draft
A page was designed and developed and publish, and went through a process of discussion for deletion. However, it was allowed to remain. But after few days, the page was again put up for deletion and after the discussions the page was moved to Draft.
I need help in what would be the best way to have the page again in the main stream.
Thanks all Archiedesai (talk) 13:22, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Courtesy link: Draft:No Means No (film)
- The deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No Means No (film) finished with a decision to draftify. A point made there is from WP:NFF: "films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines." Archiedesai participated in the deletion discussion, so is aware of how the draftify decision was reached. David notMD (talk) 16:58, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Adding images
how do i add images on wikipedia pages? Seansrobloxvideosandmore (talk) 13:50, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Answered on help desk. SK2242 (talk) 14:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Article
Can i write an article, and how?
David Bobby George quotes (talk) 14:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- @David Bobby George quotes: If the article you want to create is about yourself, or someone you are related or have a connection to, you are strongly advised not to because you have a conflict of interest. Otherwise, you can create a draft page using the Articles for Creation process, and when you think it is ready, submit using the {{subst:submit}} code. At some point, a reviewer will determine if the draft is ready to become an article in mainspace. However, if it is declined, you should solve any issues raised by the reviewer before submitting again. When writing your draft, you should first determine whether the subject is notable enough for an article. If so, you can go ahead and write your draft. Make sure to add a reliable source for every sentence, write in a neutral tone, and follow the Manual of Style. SK2242 (talk) 14:25, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Please approve this old established institute
I have added the old recognised school of district Kupwara, with full Reference. IamMehrose (talk) 14:45, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, IamMehrose. You have submitted Draft:Iqra Educational Institute Kupwara for review. That will happen when a reviewer decides to pick it of the list and review it. My guess is that this will happen pretty quickly, and it will be declined, because it looks to me as if few if any of the sources are all three of reliably published, independent of the school, and containing significant coverage of the school. I may be wrong, but I advise you to find some places where somebody unconnected with the school has chosen to write at some length (at least three or four paragraphs) about the school, and been published in a reliable source. I hope you'll forgive me if I smile at "old established" for a school that was founded twenty years ago. I attended a school that was founded in 1561 and a college that dates from 1441. --ColinFine (talk) 16:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Request to update biography
Hello! Gary of Bitner Group here, working to update the James F. Allen (businessman) article on his behalf by sharing requests on the article's Talk page. I've disclosed my conflict of interest on my profile and on the article's Talk page. I've proposed some specific changes to bring the page up to date, if editors have a moment to review and update on my behalf. Thank you! GaryBitner (talk) 15:08, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, GaryBitner. Thank you for being open about your conflict of interest; however you have not completely complied with the requirements for WP:paid editors, in that you haven't explicitly identified yourself as a paid editor, nor "suppl[ied] a clearly visible list of their paid contributions on their main user page".
- You made a request on 22 December, which you tagged as an Edit request, but nobody has yet attended to it. Please be patient. I see you have made another request today, but not tagged it with {{edit request}}, so you're relying on whoever looks at the first also noticing the second. --ColinFine (talk) 16:52, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Help on an image
I need help on my image on Draft:Savanna Karmue. It's centered a bit weirdly on my draft page so I wanted to know if there was any way to fix it. If there is, can you please help? Thanks so much!
Tracksthegeneral (talk) 15:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)Tracksthegeneral Tracksthegeneral (talk) 15:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- I fixed the syntax and made a few other changes in the infobox. MB 15:59, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you so much! Tracksthegeneral (talk) 16:13, 5 February 2021 (UTC)Tracksthegeneral
How to deal with Insulting other’s ethnic groups
Hi Wikipedia has a specific warning category about personal attacks but what about the National attacks? Like this one Special:Diff/1004888570. As we see this user removed referenced content without providing references but rather attacked an ethnic group. As we can see from his talk page This user by the way has a history of disruptive editing and unsourced edits and attacking other people as well These are recent edits: Special:Diff/1004690238. And: Special:Diff/1003382225 and Special:Diff/1002976710 and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/993480530 And https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1002240492
I’m looking at his edits’ history and I can literally show you hundreds of these kinds of edits Edit 2: I’m not arguing but this user is claiming Syrians are stealing and showed you what his recent edits look like
Whatsupkarren (talk) 16:55, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- I've converted the URLs to Wikilinks, so they work properly on the desktop version as well. --ColinFine (talk) 17:11, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- I see several people - Savipolo, Dony rickles, Chris O' Hare, and most recently, you, Whatsupkarren, arguing in your edit messages on Callinicus of Heliopolis, but no discussion on the article's talk page. That is the first step in any content dispute, not insulting each other or appealing to the Teahouse. --ColinFine (talk) 17:33, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
How to edit semi-protected pages?
So now, I finally autoconfirmed. But, how to editing semi-protected pages? Lkas123 (talk) 17:39, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Lkas123: Same as editing any other page. Click the "edit" button at the top of the page and make sure to use citations for any changes you make. RudolfRed (talk) 17:51, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Article to improve - Power stations in France
The article LIST OF POWER STATIONS IN FRANCE is outdated.
The table of operating plants includes Fessenheim, which was retired in 2020 (source: https://cnpp.iaea.org/countryprofiles/France/France.htm)
I am completely unable to edit tables and therefore I invite another user to perform this update.
Thanks Claire 2A01:CB04:102:E000:E807:2CCD:B0C7:E6D8 (talk) 17:46, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Table updated. Thank you for the heads-up but in the future, you may get a better response by posting on the article's talk page: Talk:List of power stations in France. I hope that helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:35, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Trying to add a non-visible note breaks the page
Hi. I'm trying to add Do not change to "Legacy" per Talk:Evermore (Taylor Swift album)#Impact Vs. Legacy to Evermore (Taylor Swift album) without it showing up on the article, but it breaks the page. Can you please tell me why? Thanks. TheCartoonEditor. talk to me? see what i've done 17:55, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, TheCartoonEditor. Can you provide link to the revision where it broke please? I can't seem to find it. If you're interested there's a page about hidden comments here. Regards, Zindor (talk) 18:10, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- PrimeHunter appears to have added the note to the article for you. Zindor (talk) 18:12, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi TheCartoonEditor, welcome to the Teahouse. You haven't saved anything so I cannot say what went wrong. The right code is
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I have added a more informative comment.[12] If a comment has no explanation then it can easily be ignored. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:14, 5 February 2021 (UTC) - Thanks all. I was using the wrong format. TheCartoonEditor. talk to me? see what i've done 18:32, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Good article
Hi. Can you help me fix the Buffalo Bills article so that it can be nominated for a good article? Thanks! Mewe-Mewe. UwU (talk) 18:16, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- You nominated Buffalo Bills for Good Article without having made any improving edits to the article, so it was failed. The reviewer provided a list of shortcomings. Go to it! The New England Patriots article and a few other team articles are GAs. The rest are B-class or C-class. David notMD (talk) 20:30, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Mewe-Mewe. UwU: You should review the good article criteria. Also, you should probably do some editing in the first place to get a feel for how articles work, how sourcing works, how to make articles neutral and well written, and more. I edited for some many months before I nominated my first GA, but once I had the experience I was able to take a very poor article and turn it to a good article, and then to a featured article. You may also wish to ask a football editor, like Eagles247 for some advice. AdmiralEek (talk) 20:40, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Removal of usernames
Hi Teahouse folks, it's good to see you again. Recently I came across an article's history which had an edit attributed to "username removed" with a strikethrough going through those two words; that was also how the username appeared in the diff (I'm not linking to it here, since I'm not sure if I should draw attention to someone who may have reasons for hiding their username). It didn't seem to be an instance of wp:revdel; if that had been the case the diff contents would not have been visible. Could you tell me if this is a new enwiki feature, or if it's something I just haven't noticed? Also, what are the policies if any that govern the use of this feature? Thanks! Airbornemihir (talk) 18:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC) (please ping while replying.)
- Hi, Airbornemihir. The revdel function can hide usernames and edit summaries too. A stricter version would be suppression. Regards, Zindor (talk) 19:15, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Airbornemihir: Perhaps WP:OVERSIGHT of an IP address of an edit by a user that was accidentally logged out. RudolfRed (talk) 19:17, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Editing battery section of Toyota Camry (XV70), but my edits not appear
Please someone to edits (no anonymous user to edit that section) of battery of Camry (XV70), because my edits won't appear. The eight generation Camry Hybrid has two battery, which consists of nickel-metal hydride and lithium-ion (LE Hybrid; North America). Lkas123 (talk) 19:12, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Fixed (I hope) by adding a break. David notMD (talk) 20:43, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
i accidentally edited a wikipedia page
i accidentally edited a wikipedia page without a account so my ip exposed is it possible deleted history sorry for my english Boşver123 (talk) 19:13, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Boşver123: You can make a request at WP:OVERSIGHT to hide the IP address. RudolfRed (talk) 19:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
How do I move around tables?
How do I move tables? Hello, I'm an amateur Wikipedia editor. I wanted to add a chart, but I can't move it around. How do I? I ask this to help improve Wii Sports Club because I figured to add a chart to make a list easier to read. Leo Aguado (talk) 19:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Leo Aguado: do you mean a summary of review ratings, like at Paper Mario: The Origami King#Reception? Click "Edit" on an article with a table like the one you want to add, copy it, and mess around with lobbing chunks off or replacing text in it to work out what it does. In this case the format would be
{{Video game reviews | XYZ = 100/100<ref>Reference here</ref>}}
where the "XYZ" is an abbreviation for the reviewer name (like "Metacritic") that you can look up at Template:Video game reviews#Code. If this isn't the type of table you're talking about, provide as much detail as you can about what you want as the desired final display. — Bilorv (talk) 01:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC) - @Bilorv: Oh wow! Thank you for the code. I will help improve Wikipedia. Leo Aguado (talk) 15:27, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Biography
how can i get my biography placed on wikipidia The MarSen (talk) 19:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- @The MarSen, hello and welcome, Biographical articles you observe on Wikipedia were created by volunteers who deemed the subject of their articles to be notable because they passed our notability test which is outlined in WP:GNG,(read it at your leisure time). Furthermore writing an article on yourself by yourself is called WP:AUTO & it is very much frowned upon & would most likely be deleted eventually. If you are notable, your biography would invariably be created. Please we do not accept money in exchange for creating biographical articles so if any editor approaches you privately & asks you for money in order for your article to be created they are fraudulent individuals attempting to scam you. If you are desperate about having an article on yourself you may choose to include your name to this list & if you are deemed notable your biography would be created. Celestina007 (talk) 19:58, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Help and guidance requested
Hello,
I request for someone to please take a look at the tag on Fardad Fateri's page. I have worked on his page by submitting edit requests on his talk page. The requests have been answered improving his page since February 2019 and the page is now updated with additional citations for verification. I would request if someone would take an independent look or DMacks can suggest what more (if anything) is required to work on? Thank you. GoMetroGo (talk) 22:07, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- @GoMetroGo: I've removed the tag, as my assessment is that it no longer applies. — Bilorv (talk) 01:39, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Follow-up to Mark Lawrence Editor
Mark Lawrence editor how do I reference my submission? Vladamir2020 (talk) 22:34, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Vladamir2020, you're going to want to take a look at WP:EASYREFBEGIN. Is this being copypasted from somewhere? I see numbers in square brackets, but they're not linked to the References section at the bottom. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:24, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Requested article help
Hello, I have written an article which has been requested of Wikipedia.Specifically, about Ernest Jese Palmer, a botanist (and dead). It's still in my userspace, not quite done, and I have several questions before I finish. One, if I want to add sources which were not used in the article, do they have to meet Reference-grade critera? Under what heading should I put them? 'Further reading'? 'see also'? Two, where can I get a more experienced editor to review my work before it is published? I want to reduce chance of deletion. Three, How can I connect this article to the redlink requested article, and therefore remove the article from requested to fulfilled? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SaraEMWalker/Ernest_Jesse_Palmer Thanks in advance, SaraEMWalker (talk) 22:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC) SaraEMWalker (talk) 22:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- SaraEMWalker, if you want to add links to URLs that wouldn't be considered reliable but would aid a reader in understanding the topic, those should probably be external links. If you want to add references that would be considered reliable, making a further reading section is fine. Some pages have a bibliography section, but that's generally discouraged because it's not possible to tell what specific information a source is supporting.
- Since you indicate that you are a paid editor, the answer to your second and third question is the same: place
{{subst:Submit}}
at the top of the page, and it'll be reviewed and moved to the title that's currently a red link if the reviewer deems it likely to be capable of surviving a deletion discussion. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 23:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Assistance in improving an article- Shamir optical industry
Hello to all Teahouse members and hosts. I translted the article from Hebrew , and while at the Hebrew platform the article waspublished, Here I asked to improve it. I know there are some diffreances from one Wikipedia to another, but still the core elemants are the same: natural and un-parcial point of view while adding refs from rilabie sources as newpapers, news websites and such. Alltough it seems that it is not enough. I would be happy for your guidnces and remarks about how to make the article Draft:Shamir Optical Industry better. Thank you Shaykea (talk) 00:29, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Replacing my logo in our Wikipedia
I'm trying to replace our logo on our Wikipedia page, but it's not clear to me how to do that. Our page is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Main_Street_Partnership. I have the image on my desktop but I'm not sure how to load into that template.
thanks.
Peter RMSPPeterOsborne (talk) 00:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, RMSPPeterOsborne. I see you have uploaded File:RMSP logo.jpg to Commons, claiming it is your own work. Two questions: 1) Are you the legal owner of the copyright? If not, then you do not have the power to license it. 2) Are you aware that the licence you have purported to release it under irrevocably gives anybody at all permission to reuse or alter it for any purpose, commercial or not, as long as they attribute it correctly?
- Logos are normally not handled that way, but are uploaded to Wikipedia itself as non-free images: see LOGOS. Since you evidently have a conflict of interest, you should not be directly editing the Wikipedia article about your organisation (which is not "your Wikipedia page"). Place an edit request on the article's talk page, either with the name of the file in Commons if you really are able, and intended, to release under that licence; or else with a link to where it can be found on the internet, and in time an editor will get to it and replace the logo. --ColinFine (talk) 01:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- What I forgot to say, RMSPPeterOsborne, is that you should declare your conflict of interest in editing that article, and if you are in any way employed or otherwise paid by RMSP, you must make the formal declaration described in paid editing. --ColinFine (talk) 01:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
The definition of fascism
Why does the fascism definition on this site say that it is only far right? That is an extremely biased opinion and is propaganda. There are many examples of fascism in today's world that does not include right wing ideologies. Truthteller1982 (talk) 01:35, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Truthteller1982: Wikipedia is based on reliable sources—in this case the consensus of professional historians and the relevant body of peer-reviewed work. The correct place for this discussion would be at Talk:Fascism, where you'll see a bright-red sign "Fascism is a right-wing ideology" which you need to read all of carefully and in detail before raising the issue again. If you are to raise the issue then you need to present peer-reviewed sources from historical journals or material of equivalent quality and explain in detail which pages of the sources support precisely which text you want to be changed from what and to what. — Bilorv (talk) 01:42, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Creating a Wikipedia page for a company where I work
Creating a Wikipedia page for a company where I work
I have created an entry for Shopless (this is where I work). I have tried my best to remain neutral. The article has been rejected, due to lack of recourses and secondary references. I would like to add some more references to the article and add more details to document... I want to know if there is anything else that I keep in mind? Hoomanbahreini (talk) 04:11, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Courtesy: Draft:Shopless. The reviewer who Declined the draft explained what is lacking. The company's own website can be used to support some basic factual content, but it does not count toward establishing notability. David notMD (talk) 04:38, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Hoomanbahreini, and thanks for declaring your paid relationship with the subject on your user page! The draft has been declined (rejected is a more definite evaluation), which means that if you address the problem areas, it is more likely to be accepted. There are only two references you've used: one for a company listing, and one to the company's "About Us" page; both merely acknowledge the presence of the company, but do not establish any notability the subject has for Wikipedia. Since it's a company, you may want to take a look at corporate notability criteria. Please look for reliable sources that mention the company significantly and is independent from it. If you can find three, most reviewers should be satisfied.[a] —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:52, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Notes
- ^ Take this with a grain of salt, as I am not a reviewer myself.
How to Edit ? ? ?
How to Edit ? ? ?
Peace be upon you Hello Uncle I have Very Important Question How can i Edit the articles in no reverted and no warning and i am edit why i have revert i am nothing remove of words. JUDDHO (talk) 04:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC) --JUDDHO (talk) 04:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- In reference to your most recent warning, you attempted to remove a template message without actually fixing the issues the template was warning about. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 04:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi JUDDHO. We all have to acknowledge our limitations. There are probably limited tasks you could do here without language proficiency, but you are not limiting yourself to those tasks. You have to speak the language of whatever Wikipedia you are editing sufficiently to make suitable, "rich" edits to the content of articles. (Just as I would have the same limitation if I was editing in your native language.) Your question is in highly garbled English, and looking at some of your edits, they too are garbled, even though made to article content. To give you one isolated example, you added a link in the form "[[Tsenpo|Tsenpo son]]", which appears to be an attempt to indicate the article subject is the son of Tsenpo, or the reverse, but either way, that is not the way that would ever be expressed in English. Now, you did create the article that that edit was made to, but the article when you posted it had to be completely rewritten by others, reading like bad machine translation (it's being considered for deletion at AfD). That's unfair to those here; essentially you're forcing others to do the work you can't do; that's just the way it is because you're trying to edit in a language in which you aren't fluent. Unless you become far more fluent in English, you will never be able to make these types of edits here that won't be reverted or at the least need changing by others. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:08, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
In need of help from users who can contribute in another language (Dutch)
Hey Teahouse! Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I need to find an editor who can contribute with a sufficient level of Dutch and is willing to help me with an article. This article is about Naaz Mohammed, a singer from the Netherlands who receives a tiny bit of coverage in English, but I looked up her name in Dutch Google and there's a ton of potential references there that could help me expand the article, but I do not know a word of Dutch, and Google Translate is inaccurate..
So my question is: are there any editors here that are able and willing to help me? And if not, is there a place I can be referred to in order to find editors who will help me? Ping me in your replies, thank you. versacespace (talk) 05:18, 6 February 2021 (UTC) versacespace (talk) 05:18, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, VersaceSpace. There is an active editor Drmies who is a native Dutch speaker and is also completely fluent in English. I have no idea if he will be interested in this topic. That is up to him. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:09, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Cullen328 "she/her" - Drmies is a woman. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:31, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Dodger67, I have met Drmies once in real life and know a fair amount about his family. He may joke around but he is a man. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Dodger67, when I see men talk on social media I wish I were a woman. I don't know if I'm always joking around, Cullen328, but I do know that I am not as manly as many men. I also know it rubs me the wrong way when people assume I'm a man because I'm an administrator. I'll have a look at the article, VersaceSpace--thanks. Drmies (talk) 17:20, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Let me just add that the certified expert, with a Harvard degree in the anthropology of karaoke, is User:Ucucha, and is Dutch as well. I mean, they're Frisian or something like that, but still. Drmies (talk) 17:22, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, thank you. versacespace (talk) 17:23, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- versacespace, there were a ton of YouTube and other links in there. Drmies (talk) 17:30, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- I do agree that the article has a bunch of reference issues (and other issues as well), hence why I was asking for help with Dutch references as a secondary source would help me here, although admittedly I did add some of the YouTube references (this was the first article I started editing when I joined) because I had no idea what WP:RSP was. The article was originally completely unsourced in the career section though, and I know more about editing then I did months ago. Thanks, versacespace (talk) 17:36, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- versacespace, thanks for beefing up that article--we should be able to do a bit more. I gotta do some other things right now, but if you want to search around in some Dutch sources and put the links on the talk page, I can look at them if you ping me. Look for articles in Trouw, Het Parool, de Volkskrant, NRC Handelsblad (the big Dutch newspapers), and see maybe if you can find something about those Edisons. Take care, Drmies (talk) 18:29, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- I do agree that the article has a bunch of reference issues (and other issues as well), hence why I was asking for help with Dutch references as a secondary source would help me here, although admittedly I did add some of the YouTube references (this was the first article I started editing when I joined) because I had no idea what WP:RSP was. The article was originally completely unsourced in the career section though, and I know more about editing then I did months ago. Thanks, versacespace (talk) 17:36, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- versacespace, there were a ton of YouTube and other links in there. Drmies (talk) 17:30, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, thank you. versacespace (talk) 17:23, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Dodger67, I have met Drmies once in real life and know a fair amount about his family. He may joke around but he is a man. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Cullen328 "she/her" - Drmies is a woman. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:31, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
There are also other wikipedias for different languages (and this is the english one.) Im a shoe2 (talk) 00:10, 7 February 2021 (UTC) Oh... Im a shoe2 (talk) 00:10, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Too Complicated Process
Too Complicated Process
The entire process for creating a webpage on Wikipedia is very complicated and no clear guidelines has been provided in my space, due to this, agencies are charging exorbitant fee for creating a page. Is there a possibility of simplifying the process and providing the guidelines or instructions in one go? EarthySky (talk) 07:40, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- EarthySky, welcome to the Teahouse. First off, do not pay any agencies any money, as it is more than likely a scam. Second, I see that you've started a draft in three places (draftspace, your talk page, and your sandbox); I suggest focusing on the one in draftspace, so that it's a little easier on reviewers. Before you continue editing, please understand that creating an article is one of the hardest things to do on here, and that diving in headfirst often always results in disappointment. I suggest taking your time and going through help pages, like Your first article, or tutorials like The Wikipedia Adventure. If you have a conflict of interest with the subject, paid or otherwise, please declare it on your user page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 07:53, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
My draft not accepted
Courtesy link: Draft:Arya Kinchitkumar Shah
Please don't reject me Arya Kinchitkumar Shah (talk) 09:49, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Arya Kinchitkumar Shah. My guess is that your question is about Draft:Arya Kinchitkumar Shah, but if it's not please clarify what is being rejected. I also think that you're misunderstanding what Wikipedia is about; so, I suggest you take a careful look at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything. If you still have questions about why the draft you submitted was rejected after reading those pages, feel free to ask them here at the Teahouse and a host will try to help you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:56, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sock blocked and locked. Please stop wasting your time creating accounts to evade your blocks and create drafts on yourself, you will not succeed in getting an article. Pahunkat (talk) 12:56, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
AKS has created (at least) five accounts at Wikipedia (all blocked) and has been deleted/blocked at Wikipedia Commons, Simpsons Wiki, Indian Wiki, Scholarpedia and History Wikia. David notMD (talk) 13:15, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- David notMD, more than five - see Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Aryashahnaughty. Pahunkat (talk) 13:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
User:lupin popup
Hello,
I've just had a message telling me to remove user:lupin/popup (or something like that) from my skin. Unfortunately I've been here so long that I've completely forgotten how to do something I probably did ten or twelve years ago and never looked at again. How do I do this please? Please keep your answers to beginner level. Thanks. Sophie means wisdom (talk) 10:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC) (now there's an ironic username!)
- Hi Sophie means wisdom, welcome to the Teahouse. It's in User:Sophie means wisdom/vector.js and User:Sophie means wisdom/monobook.js. You can remove the first six lines in each page. The message refers to a replacement you can choose to enable at "Navigation popups" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Thank you! Sophie means wisdom (talk) 14:08, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Questions and Feedback requested
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Wallace_Rasmussen
Hi. Several editors gave me great advice the other day. I have already thanked them individually, but thanks again. After making the suggested edits, I would appreciate feedback on my updated draft. Also, could you answer a few questions please: 1) Do the new references that I added enhance the notability of my subject? 2)I added a new section, "Published works," but could find no ISBN or OCLC for the publication. I added a citation, but I'm sure there is a better solution. Any suggestions? Thank you for your time. Phoenix7119 (talk) 11:39, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Still WAY TOO MUCH Studs Terkel interview content. Wikipedia does not consider interviews as contributing to notability, nor quotations of the person the article is about. David notMD (talk) 13:01, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
I need to replace an image upon the editor's request
Hi, the editor Colin Larkin itself would like to see the image of the 3rd edition shown instead of the 1st edition actually on the All Time Top 1000 Albums page. I tried to replace the actual image for the one that I uploaded All-Time Top 1000 Albums - 3rd edition, but is doesn't work. Is it a question of rights? I tried to look in the help pages and I couldn't see a solution. Thanks The Music Guides Playlists (talk) 11:42, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- The Music Guides Playlists, I don't understand-- is this regarding the infobox image? The infobox image is for images of the person itself. GeraldWL 12:30, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- I found the image you had uploaded to Commons and have made the change to the article. For avoidance of any copyright issues, you probably need to use the Commons OTRS process to show that Colin Larkin has licenced your "derivative work", namely your photograph of the cover of his book. Contact me if you need assistance with that. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:17, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Also, please note, The Music Guides Playlists that I didn't change anything else in the infobox at All Time Top 1000 Albums. The dates and ISBN may now need to be altered. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:21, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- I found the image you had uploaded to Commons and have made the change to the article. For avoidance of any copyright issues, you probably need to use the Commons OTRS process to show that Colin Larkin has licenced your "derivative work", namely your photograph of the cover of his book. Contact me if you need assistance with that. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:17, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Mike Turnbull Thank you! This is exactly what I needed. So from my understanding, I was doing it right, but I should've add the jpg extension at the end. I updated the information in the box to fit with this 3rd edition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Music Guides Playlists (talk • contribs) 13:41, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
DBFkayembe on Debora Kayembe
Dbfkayembe (talk) 11:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Dbfkayembe, welcome to the Teahouse - what is your question regarding this article? CommanderWaterford (talk) 12:09, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sensing a WP:COI here. GeraldWL 12:28, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Courtesy: As of 6 February, DBFkayembe has added unreferenced content to Debora Kayembe and Njd-de has been reverting those edits, with Edit summaries provided. Njd-de has left a comment on DBF's Talk page about the COI. Standard advice here is for DBFkayembe to start a discussion on the Talk page of the article (and also address the suspected conflict-of-interest). True content must be verified with citations. David notMD (talk) 12:44, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello.
I am new here, and I just wanna ask you if there are any sections in this website where I can talk to people who are actively editing or making articles here. If there aren't, then I'll find somewhere else. Thanks :) Wikipedium2021 (talk) 12:07, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Wikipedium2021, welcome to the Teahouse - well to answer you: You seem exactly to be in the right place. What is your question? CommanderWaterford (talk) 12:09, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Wikipedium2021, if you want advice on editing, this is the place, but if you just want to chat to other Wikipedians, your best bet is probably our Discord server, where you can find other Teahouse guests and hosts (as well as lots of content creators) discussing both Wikipedia related and offtopic things. Giraffer (talk·contribs) 15:55, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Wikipedium2021: For another alternative, see Wikipedia:IRC. GoingBatty (talk) 23:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
How to avoid edit ping-pong
Hullo - I wonder if a more experienced contributor can help. I’ve made some additions to an entry as news changes. Another new editor has questioned my motives and as a result the article is now flagged as disputed ‘repeatedly adding defamatory or libelous material to articles about living people over an extended period’ .
This isn’t my intention. The information is neither defamatory or libellous, it simply provides additional context to an entry which is otherwise pretty sparse.
I don’t just want to dive in and undo the other contributors deletions but I’d assume the point of Wikipedia is to develop entries rather than delete others’ additions. Any advice gratefully received. AugustB1914 (talk) 13:15, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- You and at least two other editors appear to be hashing it out at Vicky Ford. The proper place to have a discussion is on the Talk page of the article. Two editors are quibbling there - join them. P.S. see WP:Deletionism. David notMD (talk) 13:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- The introduction of terms such as "volte-face" and "miserly" into an article about a living person have been rightly reverted. Please see our policy on MOS:LABEL.--Shantavira|feed me 14:38, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Edits
How many edits did I make so far? Earthsmoke91 (talk) 13:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Earthsmoke91 You may view your contribution history here. I would suggest that you heed the comments on your user talk page and not be concerned with your edit count. 331dot (talk) 13:49, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Emmet Till in Wikipedia
Error in Emmet Till's page|1= Hi, my class has studied Emmet Till in support of Black Lives matter this year. I was checking on some information and was surprised to see the Google search page clip in the sidebar said that Emmet Till had been "lynched". In the biographies that I read to prep for my class, I could find other horrifc means that led to his death, but no hanging which is the usual meaning of lynching. Can this be corrected? Or does someone know that besides the other means, lynching was used as well. I just like accuracy. }} 47.202.124.231 (talk) 14:09, 6 February 2021 (UTC) English Teacher/Florida High School
117.225.117.207 (talk) 14:11, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- I suggest you research the meaning of lynching it doesn't necessarily mean death by hanging. Theroadislong (talk) 14:18, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
LastObject feedback
Please give your advice on ways to improve Draft:LastObject. It is a proprely stated WP:COI contribution about a Danish sustainable products manufacturer. The article was reviewed at the WP:AfC and declined. I asked the reviewer for his feedback, asking to clarify what extactly needs to be changed, but he didn't reply. The reviewer highlighted that the article needs to be reworked to be “in a more encyclopedic format” and that “peacock terms that promote the subject” should be avoided. It is hard to understant from this feedback which teams are "peacock" and which parts of phrases are promotional. Bbarmadillo (talk) 14:51, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, Bbarmadillo. You should bear in mind that going into too much detail about aspects of a business can appear promotional. For instance I would remove most of the information in the 'Products' section, instead focusing on a broader overview and what is most important. From a quick glance, there might also be a problem with not enough significant coverage in independent reliable sources to establish notability. Zindor (talk) 15:13, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Zindor, thanks, this is very helpful. --Bbarmadillo (talk) 15:32, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
need an editor
Hello. 1)I have written a complete article along with detailed footnotes (and it is excellent), but as a 70-year-old, following the instructions on your website to make it ready for publication is simply not possible. I believe you have people who can make that happen, but cannot follow the maze of the website to figure out how to find one.
2) There are many highlighted areas that need to be linked to other computer sites. Do I need to have someone do the for me before sending it to you, or will your editor do that, also?
Thank you so much for your answer. Best regards, Sallie Salliemid (talk) 14:59, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Salliemid, welcome to the Teahouse and thank you for wanting to contribute to Wikipedia. Have you tried using the article wizard linked at Help:Your first article? After your article is uploaded we can help fix or highlight any issues. Providing everything is ok it'll then be published. Let us know if you need further assistance. Regards, Zindor (talk) 15:27, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Help:Referencing for beginners will also be helpful. That explains how to embed references in the body of the draft, so that those will then be automatically numbered and displayed in the References section. P.S. For some of us, 70 is a youngster. David notMD (talk) 15:53, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
How to remove an incorrect redirect?
I would like to create an article for a very famous art collector, Baron Herzog (aka Mór Lipót Herzog) but there is a redirect from his name to the Wikipedia page of a winery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Baron_Herzog&redirect=no
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kedem_Winery
How can I remove the redirect? Thankyou
Eli185 (talk) 15:06, 6 February 2021 (UTC) Eli185 (talk) 15:06, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hey Eli185, When you are redirected you will always see at the top of the resulting page, just below the title of the page:
- (Redirected from NAME)
- If you then click on the link provided, you can access the redirect itself; remove the code that looks like this:
#REDIRECT [[Name]]
, etc. and edit away. For more, please see Wikipedia:Redirect.I haven't looked at your edits, so I just say this prophylactically, as it's so commonly an issue with new entries: please be sure to demonstrate the notability of whatever you are writing about (and verify the information content), by citing your sources–mostly through reliable, secondary, independentTemplate:Z21 sources. Gathering your sources first, and then writing only about what they verify is the best way to write suitable articles. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:52, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
thank you :) Eli185 (talk) 16:06, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Error Data and when changed it was gone to protective
Hi,
For https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponnur_(Assembly_constituency) in wiki the winner of 2019 assembly is Elections is Kilari Venkata Rosaiah not Dhulipalla Narendra Kumar and polled votes changed. When tried to correct it, some user have reverted the changes and moved the page in to protected mode.
Attaching a links for 2019 results of Ponnur https://www.dnaindia.com/assembly-elections/andhra-pradesh/constituency-list/ponnur-election-results-2019 https://www.news18.com/assembly-elections-2019/andhra-pradesh-ponnur-results-s01a088/ Juggernaut4AP (talk) 15:17, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, Juggernaut4AP, thank you for raising this. If you're having trouble with I.P vandalism in future you can place a request at WP:RFPP for page protection. I've managed to track down that missing government source here and I'll give you a hand restoring the article shortly. Zindor (talk) 22:34, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Uploading picture (copyright question)
Hallo,
I am trying to upload a picture of a scientist of my field on a page. The guy passed away and I don't have any direct contact, how do I know a picture I found online is free from copyright? Does the fact the picture has been used in several websites (including official journals and conferences) make it of common use? I cannot obviously contact him as he is dead. Minddeep (talk) 16:59, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Minddeep. All pictures you find on the internet are assumed non-free fully copyrighted uinless you have affirmative evidence to the contrary. The fact that they are used in a variety of places is irrelevant; indicia of nothing (numerous websites casually violate copyright; also people use images under license from the copyright owner [which we do not allow here]). What you need to look for is a release associated with the image, such as into the public domain, or under a suitably free and compatible free copyright license. You can also look for some status that means the image is automatically in the public domain, such as having been published before 1925, or having been taken by a U.S. federal employee in their role as a federal employee. Given the context of your question, it appears you have not found anything like that. We do allow limited use of some non=free images under fair use, which only applies if ever obtaining a free image is not reasonably likely. I literally must run; or I would say more about the fair use ability. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:16, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Following on from the above, Minddeep is this in relation to this image you uploaded as CC-BY-SA-4.0? I note on the source website that it's attributed to a specific author, which would present a problem unless the photographer is you or the licence is stated somewhere i missed. Regards, Zindor (talk) 17:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know how to solve this, and I don't want to turn crazy, it was just to give a contribution to a guy I admire. I think the best solution is to remove completely the picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minddeep (talk • contribs) 18:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Minddeep, I understand. I notice that other images used elsewhere on the web contain the attribution 'picture with courtesy of INSERM/P.Latron', so I suspect that if you contacted INSERM and asked them to upload the picture to Wikimedia Commons under a free licence such as CC-BY-SA-4.0, that they might consider it. As for the current upload, without confirmation of the licence, it'll have to be deleted. I can tag it for you if you like. Zindor (talk) 19:29, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- I already removed the link to the page, no idea how to remove the image from wikipedia completely, please go ahead.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Minddeep (talk • contribs) 19:47, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sure, will do. I hope this works out for you eventually. Please sign your responses with four tildes ~~~~ Zindor (talk) 20:05, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- I already removed the link to the page, no idea how to remove the image from wikipedia completely, please go ahead.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Minddeep (talk • contribs) 19:47, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Minddeep, I understand. I notice that other images used elsewhere on the web contain the attribution 'picture with courtesy of INSERM/P.Latron', so I suspect that if you contacted INSERM and asked them to upload the picture to Wikimedia Commons under a free licence such as CC-BY-SA-4.0, that they might consider it. As for the current upload, without confirmation of the licence, it'll have to be deleted. I can tag it for you if you like. Zindor (talk) 19:29, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know how to solve this, and I don't want to turn crazy, it was just to give a contribution to a guy I admire. I think the best solution is to remove completely the picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minddeep (talk • contribs) 18:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Following on from the above, Minddeep is this in relation to this image you uploaded as CC-BY-SA-4.0? I note on the source website that it's attributed to a specific author, which would present a problem unless the photographer is you or the licence is stated somewhere i missed. Regards, Zindor (talk) 17:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm new!
Hi! As you can see, I'm new to editing Wikipedia. Can you give me some tips on how to make edits as well as providing good sources? Thanks. 51.7.187.36 (talk) 17:01, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, IP editor. There are a lot of help pages that you can peruse (like Easy referencing for beginners, or the interactive tutorial over at The Wikipedia Adventure. If you create an account, it will be easier for editors that volunteer to welcome new users to leave helpful links on your user talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:15, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Flagged potential copyright infringement, maybe disappeared
Hello, in draft I am creating I think I have seen a flag of "potential copyright violation", now I don't see it anymore. Either it is gone or I don't see it (and a senior editor will :-) ),
is there a way to check this is gone? Are there tools directly within wikipedia to check this? I obviously did not copy and paste anything voluntarily, but I added sentences I have seen other 4-5 websites, the chances of wrinting the same things are high. If there is a very similar text, I would remove myself to avoid having everything deleted for this, but first I need to know where is the problem. I can share the draft here, if tha can help Minddeep (talk) 17:11, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- According to earwig there is a 59% chance of copyright infringement [13] all content needs to be written in your own words. Theroadislong (talk) 17:17, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Most of the content at Draft:Christian Barillot is not referenced. As a separate problem, https://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/ is a copyright violation program, and as Theroadislong pointed out, too much of what you have put into the draft is either directly copied or only lightly paraphrased from existing websites. The Earwig program shows the copied text. Remove this from the draft and try again. David notMD (talk) 17:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Understood, I am re-writing everything — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minddeep (talk • contribs) 19:13, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Help me with the copywrite issue
Hey Teahouse, I'm Abeshek working as the SEO manager at AntWak. Recently I have published an article in the name "7 Top emerging trends of Digital Marketing post Covid-19", but it was rejected for the reason of Copywrite issue. The reason why it's on another website is, I have submitted AntWak article as an article submission to the website "https://vocal.media/journal/7-top-emerging-trends-of-digital-marketing-post-covid-19". Kindly let me know what should I do for this Copywrite issue, should I provide a credit to the website "vocal media"? If yes, then let me know how I can do that. Thanks in advance! Abeshek0419 (talk) 17:38, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, Abeshek0419. Please read about what Wikipedia is not. A standalone article on the "7 Top emerging trends of Digital Marketing post Covid-19" would not be suitable for inclusion. I'd be inclined to reject a re-submission even if the copyright issue be fixed. Zindor (talk) 17:53, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- You're also obligated to disclose your employment. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 19:11, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note: User now blocked. Zindor (talk) 23:18, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
How do you embed a link on a word?
Like, when an article has a blue word, the link to a page is embeds, how do you use that? "I hope no one looks at my plans while I happen to be asleep" Verbose Dr. T (talk) 17:38, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- @"I hope no one looks at my plans while I happen to be asleep" Verbose Dr. T: Welcome to Wikipedia. To create a link like that (called a "wikilink") enclose it in double square brackets. For example [[Baseball]] produces Baseball. If you want to learn more, check out WP:TUTORIAL and the interactive learning game at WP:ADVENTURE RudolfRed (talk) 17:55, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
@RudolfRed: Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by "I hope no one looks at my plans while I happen to be asleep" Verbose Dr. T (talk • contribs) 18:01, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Help removing vandalism
I'm trying to remove vandalism on the following page: List of most popular smartphone apps. I tried to revert an edit, but the edit still appears on the page. How do I properly remove vandalism without manually removing it? Thank you for your help! Somerandomuser (talk) 18:40, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Somerandomuser: Thanks for fixing it The revert looks correct to me. RudolfRed (talk) 19:04, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- @RudolfRed: Hi. I looked at the edit and the vandalism still appears to me. I also tried reloading the page. It's still there. Somerandomuser (talk) 21:04, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- I've reverted the page back to a stable and good revision. Hope this helps! WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 21:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
adding LE CANARD ENCHAINE to the list of satyrical magazines..........i cannot do this, can someone help. it REALLY SHOULD BE THERE!!!!
XTP123 (talk) 18:52, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Le Canard enchaîné is already included in List of satirical magazines. Maybe you didn't spell it correctly?--Shantavira|feed me 19:14, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Delete draft?
I send an article in AfC, in same time the article was created and i add my text to it, also my article was declined, i understand it but how can i delete my draft now that it exists? Peehbgs (talk) 19:07, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Peehbgs: Is this about Draft:Flowers_For_Vases_/_Descansos? There is already an article for it at Flowers_for_Vases_/_Descansos. If you wish to delete your draft, edit it to add {{Db-g7}} to it, and then an admin will delete it. RudolfRed (talk) 19:14, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
why they keep deleted my page WCC-FM
DJ JAYLON (talk) 19:48, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- @DJ JAYLON: The explanation is given in the messages on your talk page. Do not continue to try and recreate it. RudolfRed (talk) 19:59, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Casal and FAMEL
Last year I contributed for the first time to a wikipedia page, called Casal, and some days ago I contributed to another, called Famel. I understand I have been blocked because my contributions include photos which already appeared in the net. I have done so with permision from the owners of the sites, blogs, from where these photos were taken and this is to ask you what I must do so that both the photos and me as a contributor to these pages can be "unblocked". Best regards, Pedro Oliveira Pedro Oliveira 999 (talk) 20:23, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- You have this backwards. The entity that needs permission is the entity who will host the images - and Wikipedia will not seek such permission. You are not blocked, nor were you ever. All that happened is your edits were reverted (and odds are the images will be removed as well; we do NOT treat copyright as a toy). That is it. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 20:30, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- The article on Casal currently cites no sources at all. Unless you can rectify that, it's likely to be deleted, regardless of any images on it. Maproom (talk) 20:36, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Kelly Price - Actress article
IcHello! my article titled above seems to have been deleted and I was just wondering why. Thanks. Mabgruncle (talk) 21:35, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Mabgruncle: Kelly_Price_(actress) was moved to User:Mabgruncle/Kelly_Price_(actress), presumably so that you can continue to work on it, since it has no references. RudolfRed (talk) 21:40, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Confusingly, there is also Draft:Kelly_Price_(actress), which you are also working on. RudolfRed (talk) 21:41, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
how do you create a new wikipedia page for an organization
Frogsclub (talk) 21:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Frogsclub. I suggest reading Your first article, which also provides a link to an article creation wizard. Please be aware that creating an article is one of the hardest things to do on here, and doing relatively smaller things like editing preexisting articles will help build experience towards things like creating articles. Also make sure that the subject of the article is notable by Wikipedia's standards, and if you have any conflict of interest, paid or otherwise, please disclose it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:10, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hello, Frogsclub, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm afraid that from your wording it sounds as if you have a (very common) misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia does not have "pages for" organizations (or anything else): it has "articles about" them. These articles do not belong to their subject, are not for the benefit of their subject, and are not controlled by their subject. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. . If there are such sources (so that your organisation meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability), then an article about it can be created. If, as I'm, guessing, you are involved with the organisation, then you have a conflict of interest, and you are discouraged from creating the article, because it is likely to be difficult for you to write sufficiently neutrally: to start with, you will have to forget everything you know about it, and write only from what those independent sources say.
- Having said all this, you are not forbidden from trying this extremely difficult task. If you want to, then after reading the links I have inserted in the previous paragraph, start by reading your first article, and use the Article wizard to create a draft. --ColinFine (talk) 22:13, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Pseudo/fringe science
Is there a wikiproject or noticeboard on Wikipedia that deals with pseudo/fringe science? I am thinking that the new article Emil Kirkegaard needs a once-over. Possibly (talk) 23:13, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- I have answered my own question: Wikipedia:WikiProject Skepticism. Possibly (talk) 23:23, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- That article was previously deleted and had a sock-puppet problem. I previously raised this issue at WP:FTN (fringe theories noticeboard) this morning [14]. Also see discussion here [15] Psychologist Guy (talk) 23:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Excellent, thank you! Possibly (talk) 00:09, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- That article was previously deleted and had a sock-puppet problem. I previously raised this issue at WP:FTN (fringe theories noticeboard) this morning [14]. Also see discussion here [15] Psychologist Guy (talk) 23:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
An editor has made repeated wholesale block deletions of material from a header on the page of a controversial BLP subject without adequate justification, and ignored Level-2 and level-4 warnings. Probable ideological motivation. What are my options?
Another editor user has repeatedly made wholesale block deletion of material from the header of an article on a controversial BLP subject. The user in question has said there is no consensus without referring to any specific policy. I'm familiar with WP:Stonewalling and know that it's putting the cart before the horse to simply say "there's no consensus", and know that per Wikipedia:Revert only when necessary they should not be removing material in large blocks without discussion or attempts to improve it. The material they've deleted is based on around a dozen academic sources and represents the mainstream academic view of the subject. There have been extended discussions on the talk page but the editor in question has not participated in them. I left them lvl-2 and lvl-4 warnings for disruptive editing which they simply ignored.
I feel that they've essentially sabotaged the page and that their removal of material is probably ideologically motivated (for example, they've removed material unflattering to the subject but left material that isn't). The page is they've left it is a whitewash that ignores every academic view I've seen of the subject. What are my potential remedies? Unfortunately what I think they are trying to do is say that consensus opposes the material they removed (ie they disagree) and essentially stonewall to prevent this material from ever being re-added. Noteduck (talk) 00:48, 7 February 2021 (UTC)