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Contributing more Female Founders to Wikipedia

Hi ToBeFree, I'm fairly new to Wikipedia so my apologies as I am still learning how to use the talk section. I read an article about gaps wikipedia has in relation to women and I decided to try and contribute more information about female-founded companies and female startup founders. I do know some of the women I am trying to add, what is the proper way to cite that? Also, to push this forward and get more notable women should I be simply requesting for others to create the pages with their work or request for someone else to be profiling them instead of contributing that information myself? Pumpkin candle (talk) 01:36, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

References

Hi Pumpkin candle, thanks for asking. If you have a personal connection to a person, please do not edit Wikipedia about them. Please also disclose your connection, if any, to "CareMessage", on your user page. You can do so by clicking here and explaining your connection to the topic of Draft:CareMessage.

I may have more advice to offer, but only if such connections have been properly disclosed. Feel free to inform me when this has happened. General advice can be found at Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations and Wikipedia:FAQ/Article subjects, for organizations and people, respectively. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:43, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Message by Greenkingwashere

In regards to my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Home_(American_Electronic_Band), you said that is doesnt not have enough sources. I have some articles and other sources written about the artist, do you think including a style section or something similar with links to those sources is what you need to wrap it up? I was planning on adding articles about some of the albums as well, but I can include some of the content on the artist page as well. Greenkingwashere (talk) 22:39, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Greenkingwashere, my main concern is only whether such sources exist at all. They do not have to be used in the article, but the article should at very least contain a link to them. Perhaps a "Further Reading" section can already prove notability.

If you like to, I'll have a look at the three best sources you can find, according to the general notability criteria that are described in (over)simplified form at WP:42. If you are interested in such an analysis, feel free to add up to three links to the bottom of this talk page. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:49, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

I found an article about them I just added to the draft, and I dug up an interview that should provide more info. I'll add them to the draft then submit again. Greenkingwashere (talk) 23:08, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Greenkingwashere, interviews are often not independent coverage. That said, of course, do feel free to re-submit the article and someone else will provide a second opinion. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:10, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

im sorry

hello mr free, i apologize for my previous remarks and am especially sorry for any damage i have caused. sincerely, me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18A:104:BD40:CD5D:A128:6FA6:7E05 (talk) 20:51, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Hey 2601:18A:104:BD40:CD5D:A128:6FA6:7E05, do I correctly understand that this is about Special:Contributions/2601:18a:104:bd40:58c5:a474:57a3:8123? If it relieves you, I didn't even see these messages. They have been removed from the page's history. That said, the headings and multiple users' reactions to the content do allow me to guess what might have been written there. I'm not offended; I only find it weird that anyone would write such messages. I am positively surprised by your apology and accept it. Your block seems to have expired as well. If you are interested in contributing to Wikipedia productively, you may like to have a look at our community portal, or – after registering an account – the Wikipedia Adventure. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:22, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Flexibound

Thanks ToBeFree. I've marked it for deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83Gulf (talk • contribs) 21:52, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi 83Gulf, you're welcome – I'm always a bit sad to see that happen, but I think it's a reasonable decision.

On a lighter note, thank you for contributing to Wikipedia: I see that you have already edited many other articles, and that your first edit anniversary will be on Thursday this week. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:11, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Your work is appreciated! S0091 (talk) 19:36, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Hey S0091, thank you very much!

We seem to meet each other often. I appreciate your work as well! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:09, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Tupperware

I have declined your revdel request on Tupperware because https://www.academia.edu/34798666/BLACK_BOOK_final_mom (listed in the linked earwig report) is a backwards copy, no cited refs appear to be copyright problems. If there is a problem here, please be much clearer on exactly what is copied and from where. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 23:52, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi DESiegel, thank you very much for the notification. I am referring to the first reference added in Special:Diff/922992423, which appears to be a violation of the WP:LINKVIO section of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Sorry for having been too unspecific about this; it is a bit tricky to describe a link violation without linking to the infringement oneself. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:22, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!  Done I am not sure that linkvio in the history alone needs revdel, but the revision in this case had nothing of significant value anyway, and the YouTube vid was clearly a copyvio. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 01:27, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, DESiegel. I completely agree with this assessment. Perhaps there should be a RfC about the applicability of link violations for RD1; the sentence "However, if you know or reasonably suspect that an external Web site is carrying a work in violation of the creator's copyright, do not link to that copy of the work."^[1] seems to contain a condition that, uh, could possibly be argued not to apply to clueless violations by new editors. This would be a weird condition if it really had to be taken into account when deciding whether to revision-delete links to clear copyright violations. And do administrators perhaps knowingly contribute to the "linking" if they actively deny such a request? I'm not a lawyer; perhaps I'm talking nonsense. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:42, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the warm welcome and the cookies too! :)

The notable person I mentioned has given me permission to do his page.

My question was: What is the procedure? I already have the content and the photo for uploading on the page. However, I'm still lost on how to upload the information on his page.

Please assist me.

--Skanake (talk) 13:34, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Skanake, you're welcome. :)

About the article: As you have a connection to the person, and thus a conflict of interest, I personally recommend not creating an article about them. The advice in WP:Autobiography mostly applies to your situation, even if you do not directly write about yourself. Photos often come with copyright problems; you can generally only upload what you have personally photographed with your own hands. As there are so many pitfalls to consider here, I strongly recommend gaining more experience with editing, for example using the community portal or the Wikipedia Adventure, before even thinking about article creation.

Please forward the following advice page to the person you hopefully do not yet create an article about: WP:FAQ/Article subjects.

Thank you very much in advance and sorry for the probably disappointing answer. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:47, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

I get it, thanks. I'll work on a different subject.

Thanks for the advice. I'll work on a few more edits and see how it goes.

Regards, --Skanake (talk) 13:58, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Skanake, thank you very much for the consideration. I wish you good luck, enjoy editing, and do feel free to ask here or at the Teahouse whenever questions arise. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:04, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

edits on Harry Dodge page

Hi ToBeFree,

I noticed the edits I made on Harry Dodge were deleted and I am a bit confused. You left me a message saying there may be a conflict of interest? I made a draft of the page... Maybe you can review it as you suggested? Let me know what I can do and thank you for the tips! Here is the link to the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Harry_Dodge

talk soon Kekatcan (talk) 19:19, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Kekatcan, nice to meet you. Do you have any connection to Harry Dodge? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:42, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

No I don't have any connection to Harry Dodge.. I'm interested in his work and saw that his wiki page is not updated Kekatcan (talk) 20:05, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Kekatcan, please explain the existence of the following document:

• http://harrydodge.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/EXTENDED-BIOGRAPHICAL-NOTES-for-website.pdf

~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:21, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Thorntons

Hello. The source is me. Thank you for not interfering unless you really know something about the topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.12.152.220 (talk) 20:05, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi 24.12.152.220, thank you very much for the clarification.

Wikipedia does not publish original research. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of editors. Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it.
— Wikipedia:Verifiability

Or, as Jimmy Wales once wrote,

If it is true, it should be easy to supply a reference.
— https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2006-July/050773.html

You may like to use the "Cite" button of the visual editor to easily provide an inline citation. Thank you very much in advance. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:16, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Al Nahda National Schools

Hello! As a student of this school, I was wondering (after seeing your contributions to its wikipedia page) what relationship you bear to it? I've not met any German students here- nor are there any teachers from there either. How did you come across my school's page, and why the interest in it?

This might come off as rude, but trust me that this is not the case AT ALL- I am simply curious.

- Emma — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8F8:1125:8EF2:A104:8304:120C:75FF (talk) 20:05, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Emma, no worries. Nice to meet you.

It may be surprising, but many Wikipedia editors do not have a close connection to the topics they write about. We try to avoid editing articles if we have a conflict of interest; experienced editors usually do not edit articles about their employer, their friends or their family. The volunteer community is especially critical of paid editing, which is tolerated only within strict limits.

Some Wikipedia editors regularly have a look at Special:RecentChanges, a chronological list of recent edits to all Wikipedia articles. The English Wikipedia has about 120 edits per minute; this is more than a human can reasonably monitor. I personally use tools that filter out potentially problematic edits, using artificial neural networks and a huge database of edits known to be "good" or "bad". New edits are compared against the database entries, and a list of "probably bad" edits appears 🡆here🡄.

This is how I found the text that I have removed in Special:Diff/884043392, for example. I have no connection to the school; I just stumbled upon the page in the list of recent changes.

Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:40, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Ah, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you for your contributions! I wasn't aware of these things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by InbetweenCupsOfTea (talk • contribs) 15:16, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much!

I'm incredibly grateful for the links you have provided me (and the cookies..). As you may have noticed, I have a very rudimentary understanding of editing on Wikipedia- removing vandalism and fixing grammatical mistakes is all I can manage at the moment. I've been wanting to delve further into this for a while now- looks like now's the time!

Thanks again,

InbetweenCupsOfTea (talk) 16:01, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome, InbetweenCupsOfTea. I'm happy to hear that.

You may like using the following three links as stepping stones:

• The Community Portal
• The Wikipedia Adventure
• The Task Center

Have fun editing and feel free to ask if any questions arise.
~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:09, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi

Just FYI for what 100kb is referring to, see WP:RPS; your current article was about 82kb. Anyway, best of luck. Alanscottwalker (talk) 15:22, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Alanscottwalker, thank you very much for the kind notification. I have now added a "correction" note to the answer. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:40, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

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