# Matplotlib Weekly Meeting [](https://hackmd.io/jd_7FjxNQ4y7XgNknvmvGQ) **A regular sync meeting for the project's maintainers, which is open to the community.** Everyone is welcome to attend and contribute to conversations. ## 27 July 2023 -- February 15 2024 ###### tags: `2023 dev call` Call co-ordinates: Thursdays @ 21:00 Berlin time (20:00 UTC during winter, 19:00 UTC during summer) https://zoom.us/j/384435716?pwd=WFpxVWxoYXArTDFzN1lWaHNoOE8xZz09 Previous notes: [Meeting Agendas](https://hackmd.io/zljR-pZrQ0O5J_j4NZ-9yw) Archive: [matplotlib/ProjectManagement](https://github.com/matplotlib/ProjectManagement) #### [Needs discussion at some point](https://hackmd.io/uzWviu8zSUChq3XhI2FqPg) #### [Medium sized projects](https://hackmd.io/GgtrcXTlTfuoyHO76_LMLg) #### [RSE worklog](https://hackmd.io/@matplotlib/HyVoUHlSo) ``` 2023-04-20 19:00:00+00:00 Europe/Berlin 2023-04-06 21:00:00+02:00 UTC 2023-04-06 19:00:00+00:00 America/New_York 2023-04-06 15:00:00-04:00 America/Vancouver 2023-04-06 12:00:00-07:00 US/Hawaii 2023-04-06 09:00:00-10:00 ``` # 15 Feb 2024 _attending_: @tacaswell, @ksunden, @story645, @timhoffm, @QuLogic ## Agenda ### Old business - [x] RSE reports - [x] 3.9 progress - [x] scipy tutorial planning ### new business - [x] 3.7 and 3.8 micro release ### PRs - [ ] [name=hannah] [violinplot color API](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27304) ## Notes - start new notes for next week ### RSE reports - Kyle - 3.8.3 tagged out out the door - 3.7.5 release in the works - dataprototype work - Tom: - some triage / review work - data prototype meetings - Elliott - video work in the docs - now 2 projects deeps - will do 3.7.5 today ### scipy tutorials - asked scipy chair for what they want -> want interactive - https://github.com/matplotlib/interactive_tutorial exists and likly still works - keep stucture from last year, but change focus - move from just building up grid, focus on concepts - @story645 has some ideas / material on interactive as well ### 3.9 status - still looking good for RC in March ### violinplot colors - (color, facecolor, edgecolor) like bar vs. parameter dict violinprops like boxplot - consensus: facecolor + edgecolor, and add alpha, vectorize facecolor # 08 Feb 2024 _attending_: @ksunden, @tacaswell, @efiring, @timhoffm, @IGuKs80UTJCig4yt6Zos7w (greglucas), @story645, @shriyakalakata, @QuLogic ## Agenda ### Old business - [x] RSE reports - [x] 3.9 progress reports ### New business - [x] [name=ksunden] Locking down/deleting the Github wiki - [x] [name=greglucas] Scipy plans https://www.scipy2024.scipy.org/ ### Issues and PRs - [x] [name=QuLogic] [bump minimum NumPy requirement](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26800) - [ ] [name=hannah] [using labels for "don't merge"](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27668) - [ ] [name=hannah] [usage content guide](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26389) - [rendered page](https://output.circle-artifacts.com/output/job/4770a68d-dcb5-446e-8ca5-b58000f4e974/artifacts/0/doc/build/html/devel/document_content.html) ## notes ### RSE updates - Kyle - data prototype work: integrating ideas with drawing stack, playing with very simple layers - worked on OSX hang issues (with Tom and Elliot) - general maintence - GSOC - Elliott - 3.9 progress - getting CI PRs up and working - closed the last deprecation removal PR - change laptop back to linux - Tom - osx bug, other review - paper work - now have a windows VM that can test on ### 3.9 progress? - making progress - still looking good to hit March - please review pybind11 PRs ### wiki - was world writable - locked down now - do we want to keep at all? - can we archive it? - either add it to an exsiting one (project managment) - add git repo that backs it to org and then mark as public archive - seem to only use it for GSOC ideas / propsoals - have a duplicate copy of MEPs - propsoal (accepted with no prost) - upload and public archive repo - removing from GH - never talk about again - will have to change this years GSOC links ### scipy plans - do we need to submit stuff - sprints: probaly not - tutorial: need to get something in on time (Feb 27) - re-run the layout one from last year (if Kyle leads) - talk: - data work (still thinking) - going - Greg - Kyle - Hannah (maybe) - Elliot (if we have funding) ### numpy version - in March we should be Python 3.9 / numpy 1.23 - jump 2 numpy versions and get back on track - for numpy 2.0 things built with 2.0 will work with numpy 1.x but things built with 1.x will not work with 2.0 - should be able to just build everything with 2.0 and not worry about oldest supported ### no merge on labels - no runs with on premissions - but needs to pass if it should not block merging ### content guide Caswell would like to push content guide until Jody is here # 01 Feb 2024 _attending_: @tacaswell @ksunden @story645 @QuLogic ## Agenda ### Old business - [x] final decision on GSOC - [x] RSE reports - [x] 3.9 progress reports ### New business - [x] [name=hannah] [using labels for "don't merge"](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27668) ### Issues and PRs - [ ] [name=QuLogic] [bump minimum NumPy requirement](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26800) (to next week) - [x] [name=hannah] [user/project to project](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27560) - [ ] [name=hannah] [usage content guide](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26389) (to next week) ## notes ### memory leak test - takes around 200 iterations for memory usage to "burn in" - this takes at least 50 seconds - our tests with a burn in of 2 and test of 5 - we will rip the test out and open an issue for new weekly test to check memory ### azure failures - add manual timeout to popen test - add retry to these tests? - maybe related to xvfb issue like hang during collection? ### GSOC - ask NF for 1 slot - visual search project - concern that this is would be an acceptable GSOC project ### RSE reports - Tom: reviews, little bit of testing improvements, meeting with Kyle tomorrow to talk about NASA - Kyle: - data prototype project - trying to actulaly use prototype - Elliott: - CI work (m1s are now available on github) - documentation work - change animation format from list of frames to actual video - saves space! - work upstream with sphinx gallery - some examples may see 20x reductions - costs us frame-by-frame playback ### 3.9 progress - still making progress - need to discuss - numpy bump - linear rescaling of marker size ### don't merge via labels make it possible to label as "this needs discussion" differently from "I have specific code changes" # 25 Jan 2024 _attending_: @rcomer, @ksunden, @qulogic, @tacaswell, @story645 ### Old business - [x] RSE reports - [x] 3.9 progress report ### New business - [x] GSOC: numfocus deadline is Feb 5th - [ ] https://github.com/numfocus/gsoc/tree/master/2024 - [ ] https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/programs/2024 ### Issues and PRs - [x] [Make singular colorbars consistent with single-value mappables.](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26307) - [x] [Add `U`, `V` and `C` setter to `Quiver`](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26410) - API question on setter for UVC/data/offsets - [x] [Add widths, heights and angles setter to EllipseCollection](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26375) - getters? - [ ] [Added optional props argument to Lasso Widget `__init__` to customize Lasso line](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26594) - [ ] [Fix legend entries](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27568) - [ ] [Fix behaviour of Figure.clear() for SubplotParams](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27183) - [ ] [Allow linear scaling for marker sizes in scatter](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/25259) ## notes ### RSE updates - Kyle: - work on data prototype work - re-thinking how to manage and optimize the graph of computations - small PRs / review - Elliott - smallish review things - have windows on arm working - mostly just worked, pushed freetype back to our old version. - only see timeouts on interacitve tests (maybe resources due to paralle) - did not need any extra tolerances - have a PR for linting + validtion of all of our yaml - prevents a class of bugs, some issues with source of schemas - should catch errors in yaml that are currently only caought by running on main after merge - Tom - data prototype work - EffVer PR - some review ### mpl3.9 - making steady progress - bunch of PRs on todays agenda - jupyterrfb? - maybe not for 3.9 - small quality of life stuff needs to be merged upstream (cursors + rubber band) - still have to work out restart / stop / snapshot - likely due to us wrapping it in additional widgets (box + toolbar) so snapshotting looks wrong ### GSOC - do we have good projects? - hatch API? - not great because API design is hard - heigharchical ticks - same problem - reach out ot multi-variate colormap contributor - who has effort? - kyle # 18 Jan 2024 _attending_: @QuLogic, @ksunden, @tacaswell, @ianthomas23, @greglucas, @anntzer ## Agenda ### Old business - [x] RSE reports - [x] 3.9 progress report ### new business - [x] backend + ipython https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/27663 - [x] adopt EffVer https://jacobtomlinson.dev/effver/ - [x] [name=hannah] [violinplot color parameters](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27304) - [x] [name=hannah] [stream plot n_arrow](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27617) - [ ] [name=greglucas] macos warning out of our control? ([27389](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/27389)) - [ ] start next weeks note -> date + field at end of meeting ## Notes ### RSE updates - Kyle: - preperations for pytest8+ numpy2 - design work on data prototype - tom: - general issue review + prototype supportwork - elliott: - pybind11 work - working on window-on-arm test machine setup again ### 3.9 progress - still have a couple of deprecation removals outstanding - finish PRs from new contributors - some PRs that are adding new deprecations we might want toget in - put on agenda for next week ### EffVer Better description of what we currently do "stamping current policy with better name" ### parameters in violiplot should we do it like `ax.bar` or `ax.boxplot` ### ipython + Matplotlib integration - `%matplotlib` can be used to select backends - list of supported backends currently hard-coded into ipython - includes built in Matplotlib backends - and 2 jupyter specfic backends - includes a mapping from backend <-> gui framework - odd that the hard-coded backend lives in IPython - how do we support external backends - use entry points for backends to declare them selves - could put this in IPython and problem most locally - better solution is registry to live in Matplotlib - supports entry-point registraion - supports hard-coded ones we ship - support `module://` as well comments - IPython `%matplotlib ...` could support `'module://'` as input - concern about `%matplotlib` doing surprising imports - concern about alias - no alias scheme - order of lookup - builtin names (maybe include all current names (inline, widgets, notebook)) - entrty points - if collisions fail hard and ask to uninstall one - should make IPython respect the `required_interactive_backend` do we want to try and seperate GUI selection + renderer selection - yes, but does not currently factor nicely - some agg specific assumptions in the source ### need help with mplcairo - sort out why not compatible with mpl3.9 - can we move mplcairo into mpl-main to replace exsiting cairo - depends on how we want to load cairo - we may need to build cairo for wheel - mplcairo currently depends on pycairo to steal their dll/so - some extra text handling - one is cairo's font handling - one is based on raqm - maybe try to do this with a SDG # 11 Jan 2024 __attending__: ## Agenda ### Old Business ### New Busines - [] RSE reports - [] 3.9 target date ### Issues and PRs - [ ] [name=QuLogic] https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27310 - [ ] [name=greglucas] [QuadMesh nan vertices](https://github.com/matplotlib/mplcairo/pull/54) Different backends treat the quads differently. Would we want to assert anything in how this is handled? ## notes ### RSE updates - Kyle: catching up after 2 weeks off - Elliott: catchup, looking at CI - finishing up autopublishing - trying to get labelling working - Tom: issue / PR review, busy with other work ### Issues - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/22699 - merged - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27310 - meant to leave comment last week, now posted - https://github.com/matplotlib/mplcairo/pull/54 - we should let quadmesh and the functions that call them take `np.nan` in x/y - should poison entire quad that the nan is in - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27563 - merged - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27624 - needs a bit more work - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27618/ - switch back to py39 - remove broken to prove broken commit - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27552 - need to add note about how to run with `python -m pytest` - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27230 - @IGuKs80UTJCig4yt6Zos7w will look at - discussion about managing font caches - ensure that cache is generated docs - add a CLI to font manager to help with cache genartion / clearing / locating - maybe add a mode to only use fonts we shpsic # 4 Jan 2024 @tacaswell @story645 @QWhXj01mSwmTjk5kN1H_qQ (@efiring) @IGuKs80UTJCig4yt6Zos7w (@greglucas) @QuLogic ## Agenda ### Old Business - [x] Meeting time discussion ### New Busines - [x] RSE reports - [x] 3.9 target date - [ ] ### Issues and PRs - [x] [name=QuLogic] https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27310 - [x] [name=Hannah] [Content guidelines](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26389) - [ ] [name=greglucas] [QuadMesh nan vertices](https://github.com/matplotlib/mplcairo/pull/54) Different backends treat the quads differently. Would we want to assert anything in how this is handled? ## notes ### meeting discussion - hour earlier slightly better in poll, but keep same time for now - split triage discussion from broader discussion - 1st & 3rd policy - 2nd & 4th triage - RSE reports have been very helpful ### RSE updates - Tom: issue review + PRs - Elliott: off last week - Kyle: off ### 3.9 release - @QuLogic release manager - target march - when is numpy 2.0 targeted to - https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/24300 - do a 3.8.x along with numpy's 2.0 rc to drop the pin - this lets us de-couple mpl3.9 from numpy2.0 - rcs in late Feburary - beat Fedora beta-freeze with our RC (by Feb 20) ### Docs - link back to diataxes in each section - break out user guide into start-> build -> create ### SymLog # 21 Dec 2023 ## Agenda ### Old Business - [x] Meeting time discussion ### New Busines - [x] RSE reports - [x] data prototype slides - [x] pydata armenia sprint? - [x] next week? ### Issues and PRs ## Notes ### introductions ### pydata sprint - in person or virtual? - monthly meetups - yearly conferenece @tacaswell will reach out to EU based maintainers to see if anyone is interested. ### meeting timing discussion - 2pm did a bit better than 3pm (times in NY) - what is "best time" without HI? - table till more people ### next week - cancel meeting ### RSE updates - Elliott - pushed on replacing transforms with eigen - found what to check to see if it works - held up on waiting for our path extension to be converted to pybind11 to avoid np conversions - automation work on website - looking at trusted publisher - move to new artifacts action + trusted publisher - Kyle - general PR review - prep slides for this meeting - some thoughts about dataprototype - Tom - PR / issue review - data prototype + slides ### trusted publisher - github + pypi collaboration - can set up a workflow on GHA to be trusted by pypi to do uploads directly rather than going through a release manager - no shared secrets we manage ### data prototype ---- # 14 Dec 2023 attending: @ksunden @story645 @oscargus @jklymak, @QuLogic ### Old Business - [ ] Meeting time discussion - https://whenisgood.net/22qgxi3/results/bb7san5 - Thurs 2:00PM (EST) seems to be the current fave ### New Business - [ ] RSE reports - [ ] [name=hannah] GSOC 20th anniversary - https://opensource.googleblog.com/2023/11/google-summer-of-code-2024-celebrating-20th-year.html - For the 2024 program, there will be three options for project scope: - medium at ~175 hours - large at ~350 hours - new size: small at ~90 hours ### Issues and Prs - [name=hannah] [move {install/project/releases} out of users/](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/27396) - follows from [moving doc root](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26332), `match(folder structure, index)` - as consequence user/ can be sphinx gallery containing explain & getting started, which means no more symlink (which creates confusion of what to edit) - [name=hannah] https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27265 ## Notes ### RSE reports - @tacaswell: - PR review - @ksunden: no data type report until he returns. - sprints pydata global. Most of datetime tests in. Though odd so many don't work. - datetime64: tri: not formatted; - streamplot - timedelta64 doesn't work? Should it? units of velocity. arrow - working on data type report concepts - @QuLogic - transform stack work - small numpy arrays expensive: C++ class? - add tests to make that robust - Has class working - pybind11 has eigen helpers - needs access to elements for some transforms - Path C++ extension not on pybind11 yet. Injects numpy - Release automation - docs use JS/HTML instead of html5 animations - no video controllers in html5 - sphinx gallery reset of rcParams: uses installed library defaults, so changing .matplotlibrc doesn't work. - will open PR to SG to do correct thing - timeouts/space limits - but we set higher - above should fix ### GSOC: - https://opensource.googleblog.com/2023/11/google-summer-of-code-2024-celebrating-20th-year.html - 20th anniversary - New lowest 90h project level - anyone interested in mentoring? ### Meeting time: - 14:00 EST favourite time. ### Issues and PRs - move users/* up to doc/ ----- # 7 Dec 2023 ## Agenda @attending: @tacaswell @efiring @QuLogic @ksunden @jklymak @chahak @pXw4hSgTQF2--OciPYwa1w ### Old Business - [x] Meeting time discussion - https://whenisgood.net/22qgxi3 - [x] [name=QuLogic] Move `Contribute` to devdocs? - Review for change is here: https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib.org/pull/36 - Test server is at: https://mercury.matplotlib.org/stable/ ### New Business - [x] RSE reports - [x] how to inject units ### Issues and PRs - [x] [name=hannah] dev docs prs - [x][move dependencies to install](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27395) - [x][finish out reorganizing devdocs](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27265) - [x][add collection-fontsrecommend](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27282) - [x] [name=hannah] [matplotlib.org: make contributing more prominant](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27282) - [x] [name=hannah] [patheffects rcParam + xkcd style](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26854) ## Notes - RSE notes: - @ksunden: test datetime PRs, some data protoype work. - @tacaswell: CZI grant in w Elliott and Eric - @QuLogic: Grant. test datetime PRs - Inject units: - conversion nodes for pipeline of data - delayed conversion node; when querrying data supplies converter. - Maybe a 15 minute short presentation for next week @ksunden - Something like dask maybe to general purpose for what we are after - linear call graph - lazy evaluation - caching - ordering - enforce input/output on methods - transform stack in pipeline (probably?) - maybe some optimizations - Meeting time discussion - tabled until next week - Redirects on contribute to devdocs - test server can try it - merged @QuLogic will redeploy main webpage - moving dependencies under install instead of devel - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26854 Path effects - parse patheffects as list of tuples - third party patheffects? - requires import? - can't validate patheffect method name - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/27228 - reasonably dueable to go through shared axes of the one being interacted with - find each axes parent and call push tool bare on their toolbars - when pushing "back on figure 1" - do we just add another thing to the stack - move "back" on the other figure ---- # 30 Nov 2023 _attending_: @tacaswell @rcomer @chahak @ksunden @story645 @jklymak ## Agenda - [x] RSE reports - [x] discussion about moving time of standing meeting - [x] [name=hannah] [PyData Global](https://pydata.org/global2023) sprints Dec 6-8 ### Issues and PRs - [x] [name=hannah] [stix license](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27316) - [x] [name=jklymak] Move `Contribute` to devdocs? - redirect? Separate repo? - [ ] Roadmapping: - mplgui - way forward with baseline images - other larger things we should be pushing for? ## notes ### RSE reports - Kyle: travel / vacation, - some data prototype work - adding api to explicit set converter to Axis - Tom: travel / vacation - work on grant - Elliott: - working on code coverage for msvc - doc work for redirects - bit of work on grant ### Meeting time - annual re-evaluation - @story645 will email to devel mailing list + discourse a survey - discuss again in 2 weeks ### pydata global sprints - online / remote only - @ksunden will run our test coverage adding issue again ### STIX license - @tacaswell will look at this carefully ### moving contribute out of main docs options: - redirect from stable/contirbute -> devdocs/contribute - move whole tree to separate repo - cons: hard to maintain, confusion of what part of the docs come from where - pro: makes sperations of concerns very clear - point navbar link to point to devdocs - con: hard-coded urls are not great Need to do another pass to make sure we do not have any version dependent information in tree. conclusions - @QuLogic will add in redirect - run changing links in navbar - keep thinking about if we should clave off into own repo ### roadmapping - mplgui - mostly done - try to release on own - target merging for 3.10? - interaction with jupyter? - include in CZI grant + jupyter rfb - baseline images - stuck in @tacaswell 's head - refactoring axes/axis - rethink formatters / locators / tickers - go to tick collections instead of just ticks - have the major + minor locators/formatters be aware of each other - generalize to do multi-level locators/formatters - rationalize access to to sub-parts - blit manager - partial prototype exists - performance issues - axes creation is super slow (ticks) - text - caching ### discussion of units test coverage work - some things just don't work and need to be documented (deltas in arrow) - found some real bugs (axlines) ----- # 23 Nov 2023 ## Agenda - [ ] US thanksgiving # 16 Nov 2023 _attending_: @tacaswell, @efiring, @ksunden, @QuLogic, @story645 ## Agenda - [x] RSE updates - [x] multi-line tags - [ ] bug fix release ## Notes ### RSE updates - Kyle: - work on dataprototype - shape validation thinking + implemenation + tests - working on getting 3.8.2 out the door - one final PR with contours - Elliott - sick this week - waiting on follow up for igraph - webagg + jupyter RFB - found a bug in playwrite - will be putting in issues to upstream jupyter RFB - Tom - no mpl-gui work - working on making sure we are future proof ### multi line for tags - with many tags, can end up violating line length - multi-line tagging is a good idea, but not upstream yet ### 3.8.2 and 3.7.4 - xkcd script - version from ipython repo is good enough - @story645 now has commit rights upstream - contour label - PR coming - wheel building for 3.7.4 - may need to backport a couple more things - pin setuptools on azure - fix pinning on numpy on 32bit builds (or drop builds) # 09 Nov 2023 ## Agenda _attending_ : @tacaswell @ksunden @chahak @efiring, @raphaelquast, @story645, @devRD, ### New business - [x] RSE reports - [x] GSOD update ### Old business ### Issues and PRs - [x] [name=raphaelquast] [overlapping axes](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27148) - [ ] [name=raphaelquast] webagg improvements: [27160](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27160) - [ ] [name=hannah] [humor sans to xkcd](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27299) - fork font? https://github.com/dummy-index/xkcd-font/raw/brushup/xkcd-script/font/ <-unmaintained fork - [ ] [name=hannah] [path/xkcd](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26854#issuecomment-1804098144) - deperecate xkcd? interaction with [sketch seed](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26050) ## Notes ### RSE updates - Kyle - tracked down segfault with py312 - data prototype work - Elliott - Tom - some mpl-gui work ### GSOD update - met deliverables - writing up case study + blog post to close out project - will keep an open doc meeting going - bi-weekly or monthly - remove from standing agenda starting next week ### webagg - add feature as a go fast opt in, use string to denote alogorithm choice for flexibility #### xkcd - @tacaswell will talk to ipython about merging font - make plt.xkcd discouraged rather than deprecated # 02 Nov 2023 ## Agenda _attending_ : @greglucas, @story645, @rcomer , @efiring, @tacaswell, @ksunden, @qulogic, ### New business - [x] RSE reports - [x] GSOD update - https://matplotlib.org/devdocs/devel/tag_guidelines.html - https://matplotlib.org/devdocs/devel/tag_glossary.html - [x] invited for full CZI EOSS6 propsoal ### Old business - [x] RFB update - [ ] [name=tacaswell] mpl-gui ### Issues and PRs - [ ] [name=jklymak] [Logging versus warning vs...](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/23422) and for [legend](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/27145) - general: should we warn on valid input? - what should we name the warning if we do? - should warnings be toggleable? - general: should we use logging at all? - specific: should this particular instance (all numeric strings that get passed to categorical) get a message at all? - [ ] [name=oscargus] [Typing of values ending up in Text](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26867) - Text converts to str independent of input data - Type as Any, document as str as @timhoffm suggests? (Makes sense to me.) - [ ] [name=oscargus] [set/get_linestyle and dashed and ...](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/23056) - If I have time to prepare a presentation and @timhoffm is present - [ ] [name=oscargus] [Symlog hexbin](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/22718) - Review needed, long waiting (make sure it is squash-merged) - [ ] [name=rcomer] [Absolute values for pie](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/25757) what should parameters be? ## Notes ### RSE updates - Kyle: - 3.8.1 tagged and out - starting to work on NASA data stuff - Elliott - follow up from last work (docs, notebook/web backend) - still a few kinks in RBF (mostly snapshot on save) - all of toolbar but download button is working - Tom - met with Kyle on NASA data prototype - work on mpl_gui - pydataNYC sprints ### GSOD - sprints at pydataNYC - have built tag guidelines and glossary - got spreadsheet of tags via sprint, will convert to a PR - still working out best way to do that - Eva has notes about how to improve docs based on volunteers using them - meeting tomorrow for next steps # 26 Oct 2023 ## Agenda _attending_: @tacaswell @trygve @devRD @ksunden @rcomer @IGuKs80UTJCig4yt6Zos7w (greg?) @chahak, @timhoffm, @story645 ### New Business - [x] RSE reports - [x] GSOD - [x] [name=QuLogic] Jupyter-RFB proof of concept ### Issues and PRs - [x] [name=hannah] [standard internal variable name for transforms](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/22156) - do we want to standardize? if so which names? document this? ## Notes - intros ### RSE reports - kyle - PR review - 3.8.1 prep - went to xarray dev meetings for `NamedArray` pulled out (xarray variable pulled out with less dependencies) - Elliott - docs things - 3.8.1 prep - proof-of-concept using jupyter RFB - pybind11 conversion ### jupyter RFB - jupyter notebook 8 breaks nbagg - never worked in jupyterlab, now broken in normal notebook - we did less than secure things to inject our js + comms - RFB (remote frame buffer) will send you back user input, you send it bytes - have a working prototype, only a few hundred lines - questions - do we want to have this in main library? - do we want to push this to ipympl? - drop our notebook integration altogether and just rely on? - how does js get served in jupyter? - do versions in the server env and kernel envs have to match? - js is installed in server side independent of the Python version in the kernel - but matching can be a range ### GSOD - going well - need to get PR merged by Tuesday for the sprint (so we can point at devdocs) - tagging guidelines: https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26851 - how tags look in gallery: https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/27083 ### issues - absolute pie values formatting - not a 5 minute conversation because the holding point is naming / parameters - standardize names - # 19 Oct 2023 ## Agenda _attending_: @rcomer, @ksunden, @chahak, @jklymak, devRD, @melissawm esibinga, @story645, @efiring, @QuLogic ### New Business - [x] RSE reports - [x] GSOD - [x] Zenodo citation ### Issues and PRs - [x] [name=ksunden] [hexbin mincnt](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/27103) - [ ] [name=jklymak] [Logging versus warning vs...](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/23422) and for [legend](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/27145) - general: should we warn on valid input? - what should we name the warning if we do? - should warnings be toggleable? - general: should we use logging at all? - specific: should this particular instance (all numeric strings that get passed to categorical) get a message at all? - [ ] [name=oscargus] [Typing of values ending up in Text](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26867) - Text converts to str independent of input data - Type as Any, document as str as @timhoffm suggests? (Makes sense to me.) - [ ] [name=oscargus] [set/get_linestyle and dashed and ...](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/23056) - If I have time to prepare a presentation and @timhoffm is present - [ ] [name=oscargus] [Symlog hexbin](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/22718) - Review needed, long waiting (make sure it is squash-merged) - [ ] [name=hannah] [standard internal variable name for transfroms](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/22156) - do we want to standardize? if so which names? document this? - [x] [name=hannah] maybe sprint/good-first-issue project: [quoted rcParams](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/3670) ## Notes ### RSE reports - @ksunden: pytest with meson; lots of issues with that are not compatible with each other. In particular how editable installs work. - not able to find pyc files - have work arounds that are being worked around - `pytest` versus `python -m pytest` - hexbin mincnt parameter - 3.8.1 - @QuLogic - pybind11 - website issues; proper redirects - real redirects instead of html files. Canonical is set; maybe sitemap could be autogenerated ### GSOD - tagging sprint beginning Nov. - categories and subcategories - google spreadsheet tagging workflow - 1/3 tagged for examples before sprint ### Zenodo citations - now generic, doesn't pull from github anymore - github stats run anyways on milestone - maybe pull and populate cff file ### hexbin - `mincnt` comparison `>` to `>=`, `mincnt=0`, some reduction functions error - default reduction is `mean` but returns nan. `max` returns error. - solutions: - go back to `>` - make default 1 - make default change with functions depending on their behaviour - decision: make default 1, update docstring to clarify that users can set to 0 ### quoted rcParams See https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/3670#issuecomment-1771672120 ----- # 12 Oct 2023 _attending_: @rcomer, @tacaswell, @efiring, @ksunden, @jklymak, @devRD, @QuLogic, @trygve, @story645 ### Agenda ### Old Business ### New Business - [x] RSE reports - [x] GSOD ### Issues and PRs - [x] [name=jklymak] [contour: allsegs, alltypes](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/26913) remove depreaction? - [x] [name=jklymak,anntzer] [access to colorbar's formatters/locators](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/26896) - [ ] [name=oscargus] [Typing of values ending up in Text](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26867) - Text converts to str independent of input data - Type as Any, document as str as @timhoffm suggests? (Makes sense to me.) - [ ] [name=oscargus] [set/get_linestyle and dashed and ...](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/23056) - If I have time to prepare a presentation and @timhoffm is present - [ ] [name=oscargus] [Symlog hexbin](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/22718) - Review needed, long waiting (make sure it is squash-merged) - [x] [name=hannah] [mypy pre-commit hook](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26954) - was there consensus last week? - [x] [name=hannah] [list of dicts path.effects param](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26854) - feedback on whether this is feasable - [x] pytest + meson conflict? ## Notes ### RSE reports - @ksunden data prototyping; - scatter prototype. - 3.8.1 release close; couple of RC - @QuLogic - pybind 11 - EOSS grant - @tacaswell - EOSS grant - MPL GUI now has pyplot-like module; docs forthcoming ### GSOD - going well - Eva is doing more tagging - working on a sample page with melissa ### Issues and PRs - mypy precommit - Remove deprecate allsegs, find_nearest_contour... @jklymak will PR - "long_axis" exposed as a read-only property. @jklymak will PR - patheffects: dictionary cannot have "name" as it can possibly conflict with a keyword to patheffects classes that may be called "name". - meson and pytest: not consulting result source code - pytest not consulting metapath? - try passing `--import-mode importlib` ------ # 5 Oct 2023 ## Agenda _attending_: @tacaswell, @jklymak, @ksunden, @haoyingzhang, @efiring, @melissawm, @devRD, @trygve, @story645, @timhoffm, @QuLogic ### Old Business ### New Business - [x] RSE reports - [x] GSOD: - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26851 - https://pydata.org/nyc2023/about/ Oct 31st - [x] [name=hannah] hacktober policy ### Issues and PR: - [x] [name=jklymak] [contour: allsegs, alltypes](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/26913) remove depreaction? - [x] [name=jklymak,anntzer] [access to colorbar's formatters/locators](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/26896) - [x] [name=jklymak] mpl-gui? https://github.com/matplotlib/mpl-gui - [ ] [name=oscargus] [Typing of values ending up in Text](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26867) - Text converts to str independent of input data - Type as Any, document as str as @timhoffm suggests? (Makes sense to me.) - [ ] [name=oscargus] [set/get_linestyle and dashed and ...](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/23056) - If I have time to prepare a presentation and @timhoffm is present - [ ] [name=oscargus] [Symlog hexbin](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/22718) - Review needed, long waiting (make sure it is squash-merged) - [x] [name=hannah] [mypy pre-commit hook](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26954) - [x] [name=hannah] [axisartist tables](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26754) - grid tables vs list tables - [ ] [name=hannah] [list of dicts path.effects param](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26854) - is this a viable direction to go in? - [x] [name=ratna] Review needed.. [Stix table update](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26830/) - [x] [name=haoying] [QuiverKey error](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/26316/) - Clarification of ``angle`` in [doc](https://matplotlib.org/stable/api/_as_gen/matplotlib.pyplot.quiverkey.html) ## Notes ### RSE reports: - @tacaswell: - CZI letter of intent getting in, indicating new things to do, and carrying on current work - test image work plans - @ksunden: - PR review; clabel for low dpi issue - hacktoberfest PRs - @QuLogic - meson merged for building. - pybind11 - agg - @melissawm - coming back from holidays. Now on volunteer basis versus ### GSOD - refactoring based on feedback - tagging sprint Oct 31. +general Matplotlib sprint pydata NY. - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26851 review ### bivariate colormapping. https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26996 - 2d colormaps versus multivariate - VectorMappable instead of Scalar mappable - pcolormesh implimentation. - list of further changes. - Is this way good? - how to roadmap it? - needs specific colormaps? ### Quiver Key - angle degrees anti clockwise from x axis versus horizontal ### hacktoberfest - flag one liners or treat as normal - _usually_ one liners are welcomed. - Treat as normal. Don't label, just close - formatting changes OK ### MPL GUI - attach GUI after figure made rather than figure needs a GUI to be instantiated. - get into library or install into pypi first... - see if people like it. - Could be part of main... - iteration cycles... - applications: - interactive use cases where helpful - API: distinguish from different interfaces. - could have an experimental import of 3rd party library... - circular dependency - optional dependency? - next week @tacaswell @timhoffm will try and look at it... - would require documentation changes, but after stable ### mypy pre-committ hook? - runs on `lib/matplotlib/` - some caching - linter? ### grid versus list tables - read more than edited - spacing - vim extension, VSCode - longer tables OK as list table... - ---------- # 28 Sept 2023 ## Agenda _attending_: @tacaswell, @rcomer, @devRD, @oscargus, @haoyingzhang, @efiring, @theOehrly, @ananyadevarakonda, @ksunden, @jklymak, @story645, @qulogic, @rakshitsingh ### Old Business - [x] GHC ### New Business - [x] RSE reports - [x] GSOD: https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26851 - [x] [name=hannah] hacktober ### Issues and PR: - [x] [name=jklymak] [timedelta64 support](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/19236) - [ ] [name=jklymak] [contour: allsegs, alltypes](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/26913) remove depreaction? - [ ] [name=jklymak,anntzer] [access to colorbar's formatters/locators](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/26896) - [ ] [name=jklymak] mpl-gui? https://github.com/matplotlib/mpl-gui - [x] [name=oscargus] Rename "topic: types" to "topic: typing"? - Objections? - [ ] [name=oscargus] [Typing of values ending up in Text](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26867) - Text converts to str independent of input data - Type as Any, document as str as @timhoffm suggests? (Makes sense to me.) - [ ] [name=oscargus] [set/get_linestyle and dashed and ...](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/23056) - If I have time to prepare a presentation and @timhoffm is present - [ ] [Symlog hexbin](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/22718) - Review needed, long waiting (make sure it is squash-merged) ## Notes ### introductions ### GHC - got a good number of PRs (and ) datetime tests and deprecations ### RSEs - @ksunden : all day at Grace Hopper, dealing with GHC issues (merge conflicts, CI), - Typing `mypy --strict` reports pouring in. - eg `plt.show` is untyped and mypy fails. - meson discussions - @QuLogic - GHC things: about 15 PRs - cycler release candidate; testing trusterd publisher workflow - remove some cycler type hinting - documentation site: redirects to clean up some of the setup so that many files can be moved out of top level - ISO 1202 cycling linestyles issue. Some interesting thoughts about implimentation of dashing. - standard is $200 or so to buy - long descriptive names? - straightforward to impliment - worth thinking about reviving LineStyle class work ### GSOD: - tagging sprint? - good plan - PR - please look at - discussion about separating the different domains the tags are pulled from (generic vs mpl specific) - how should this look in the docs? - how do we make sure it is clear that the number of docs can grow? - how will this look when rendered in the docs? - will help evaluate how the tags are understood -``` .. tags:: tag1, tag2``` - sample: https://napari.org/stable/gallery.html ### Hacktober - no t-shirts; plant a tree - datetime testing as easiest thing to steer people to - put tags on, and help first PRs. - spam label if nuisance PRs - "hacktober accepted" label for unmerged but worthy PRs ### Timedelta64 - either error better - or use Timedelta64 as in PR. - mark as provisional consider unstable for a cycle... - need example for how to turn it off and changing defaults. - need to look at knobs for adjusting Locator and Formatter. - Whats new needs examples - pandas Timedelta formatter as touchstone? - stop at a day for largest interval - Current version: - has knobs - @theOherly willing to work on this - string formatting? Define string formatter... - define a function formatter ### Comaptibility with pandas and CFtime: - useful to rethink ways to lock out Locators and Formatters that are incompatible with a given unit converter so users are not confused when locators and formatters don't work. - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/24951 ------- # 21 September 2023 ## Agenda _attending_: @efiring, @ksunden, @tacaswell, @rcomer, @trygve, @haoyingzhanh, @jklymak, @devrd, @QuLogic, @story645 ### Old business ### New Business - [x] RSE updates - [x] GSOD updates - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26851 - [x] 3.8 release - typing fallout? - [pandas](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/26858) - [x] GHC OSD prep - [ ] https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26859 - [x] [name=hannah] [merge with single review label](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/labels/status%3A%20merge%20with%20single%20review%3F) - [x] numfocus summit comments ### Issues and PRs - [ ] meta-limits https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/26442 ## Notes ### RSE updates: - @tacaswell: on family leave - @ksunden: dealing with 3.8 release issues. - np.ndarray not a `Sequence` but is acceptable input for many things. "array-like" isn't correct because it accepts scalars. `np.ndarray` is missing index and count - `plt.Axes` and `plt.Figure` not exported - locale issue - some optimizations had unexpected changes - @QuLogic - 3.8 fallout - CI automation - trusted-publishing on cycler - meson - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26621 - makes c-extension work way easier - cirrus CI - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/24597 - currently passing, but numpy has been hitting caps - GHC OSD prep - have a lot of "good first issue" PRs - add issue for removing deprecations ### GSOD - first draft of tags + tag guidelines - Eva has been tagging things in a spreadsheet - goal is to do tagging sprint at pydata NYC (November) - looking for high-level feedback on categories - private category? - tags on examples but not displayed on built page - check if this is a good starting point - levels - based on what context the reader to understand - are there any controversial looking tags - things that would be hard for a new-contributor to follow rules and correctly apply tags ### NFSummit - @rcomer attended last week in Amstredam - discussions about writing a cook-book for universities for how to contribute to open source projects in a way that is easier on maintainers - lots of biology projects ### single review merge label can use if you want ### issues with sphinx version ### namespace packages - why do we have a namespace package - historical reasons - currently having (worse) issues with shadowing - if you shadow something with a Matplotlib install which provides the mpl_toolkits importer will prefer the old one options - move mpl_toolkits in wholesale - move just mplot3D cons: by pulling it in we are sigining up to keep it alive forever -------- # 14 September 2023 _attending_: @trygvrad, @jklymak, @ksunden, @IGuKs80UTJCig4yt6Zos7w (@greglucas), @QuLogic, @devRD , @haoyingzhang, @efiring, @story645 ### Old business - [x] Steering team? ### New business - [ ] RSE updates - [ ] GSOD updates ### Issues and Pull requests - [ ] [name=hannah] [move coc into users/project](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26702) - motivation is new landing page [about us](https://matplotlib.org/devdocs/#about-us) - [ ] [Multivariate colormapping](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/14168#issuecomment-1719170227) ## Notes - steering council team: @QuLogic will work on it. ### RSE updates: - @ksunden - 3.8 Segfault reported so working on that (polar triangles with NaN values in Agg); - release notes - @QuLogic also 3.8 release; - CI - new limits on Cirrus builds will have to watch; - Working on Meson build - waiting on pybind11 for image module. Also after 3.8; - no-build-isolation flags when building editable versus isolated VM - some notes in docs for developers - otehrwise should be similar - some concern for downstream that care about nightly wheels because version number labeller not trivial; - needs upstream work - advantage; auto recompile c extensions if edited versus having to remember to pip install.. - mpl-sphinx-theme: automatic pushing to pypi. Maybe try for 3.9 or 3.8.1 main library versus manually upload wheels. ### GSOD/GSOC - @ratna - post to front page news item. Need to fix sphinx pinning. - GSOD: - no updates. ### Code of Conduct - move into `users/project` from `CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md` - link goes to stable ### Mutlivariate colormapping - types: - overlapping images with single colormaps - meshing two images: - RGB matrices "added" - need to choose RGB so that adding is well-defined - 2-D colormap - designed 2-D colormaps - hsv colormaps, but uneven in colorspace - https://colorstamps.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ - implimentation options: - implicit - set V colormaps or norms to trigger - (V, M, N) - Additive: colormap families needed to make sense - Two-d: separate bivariate norm and bivariate colormaps - ScalarMappable multiple norms? - Make a parent "Mappable" that allows multiple inputs to make a color. - use the Transform stack as a model maybe? _BaseMappable + dim dispatch - new methods as alts to `{plt, fig}.colorbar(ScalarMappable)` - `multiple_colorbar(VectorMappable)` that positions multiple colorbars - `bivariate_color{square,circle}(VectorMappable)` + new class(es) for color square/circle object - explicit - separate methods. - third alternative: separate packages. -------- # 07 September 2023 _attending_: @rcomer @devRD @jklymak @story645 @efiring @haoyingZhang @QuLogic ### Old business - [x] [name=hannah] [ipympl small dev grant](https://hackmd.io/NngZP7hTRVuPPHcnNFx8OA) ### New business - [x] RSE updates - [x] GSOC/GSOD updates - [x] [name=hannah] [CZI EOSS round 6](https://chanzuckerberg.com/rfa/essential-open-source-software-for-science/) - [x] add steering council [github team](https://github.com/orgs/matplotlib/teams) - would allow for finer grained permissions on governance ### pull requests - [ ] MPL GUI: https://github.com/matplotlib/mpl-gui Perhaps move to integration soon? ## Notes ### ipympl small dev grant? - $10k... - ipympl more usable, and similar as possible to other backends. - limitation now: can't act on previous plot? - compare w/ other similar backends - won't submit on this cycle, instead gather more info for submitting different round or as a larger grant - https://github.com/pyodide/matplotlib-pyodide - https://github.com/matplotlib/ipympl ### RSE ### GSOC/GSOD - @Ratna: GSOC ended. Time off. Draft PRs. Final reports submitted. Blog post. Will send link to @story645 - @story645: tagging sprint pydata Nov. Second draft on site by Oct. First draft up soon? ### EOSS round 6 - will want to go for that, as much as we can get. - [CZI EOSS round 6](https://chanzuckerberg.com/rfa/essential-open-source-software-for-science/) - https://chanzuckerberg.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/EOSS-6-RFA-Packet-Final.pdf - Maintenance of the project - Steering council will discuss plans going forward. ---- # 31 August 2023 _attending_: @efiring, @IGuKs80UTJCig4yt6Zos7w @haoyingZhang, @story645 @QuLogic @devRD @timhoffm ## Agenda ### Old business ### New business - [x] RSE updates - [x] GSOC/GSOD updates - [x] 3.8rc - [x] [name=hannah] pydata NYC, Nov 1-3 - [x] [name=hannah] small dev grant, Sept 8 - [x] [name=hannah] streamline approval of triage additions - [ ] @qlogic PyCharm issue ### Pull requests - [ ][name=hannah] [barh dict key](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26577) ## Notes ### RSE - Kyle: largely 3.8rc; some with Seaborn, numpy 2.0 preparation. Did do some playing with data-prototype units behavior - Elliott: typing large and small; mainly Meson #26621 should be close; docs coming soon. ### GSOC/GSOD - Ratna: comments on open PRs; work on super/subscripts, spaced--looking for LaTeX behavior matching. - Hannah (for Eva): fleshing out scoping; opened issues on Sphinx Gallery. ### 3.8rc - Some typing cleanups to be done. - Dictionary input to barh is broken by a typing change PR? Kyle will investigate. ### Pydata NY Hannah will attend and probably do a sprint and maybe a joint tutorial; is anyone else coming? Sept. 22 deadline for proposal (but it's flexible); only cost is travel. ### Small Devel Grant Hannah talked with Ian Hunt-Isaak about mpl-playback, for gifs in gallery to show widget behavior; probably not enough work still needed. - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/23441 - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/22634 - https://github.com/pyodide/matplotlib-pyodide Concern about low-bandwidth functionality: there may be options for handling it. Do we need a full html backend? Render to html; can see by opening in browser. - Do we want another Quantstack SDG for ipympl improvement or replacement? - Nicolas Rougier advocates a library-independent rendering protocol. All libraries could take advantage of the various hardware optimizations. Maybe an SDG could do a study preparatory to a massive project. - Elliott: vispy was supposed to be an all-encompassing replacement of all 3D graphic libraries. While it didn't fully do that, there was a `jupyter_rfb` that came out of it that might be useful for `ipympl` as its implementation/replacement. https://jupyter-rfb.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ - Proposal from Hannah: SDG for ipympl maintenance? She will start a hackmd for listing things to fix. - https://hackmd.io/NngZP7hTRVuPPHcnNFx8OA ### backends for notebooks Tim: better notebook backend is higher priority. ### streamline approval of triage additions Proposal: send steering council "is this person OK to add" email? steering council has N days to say NO, maintainers have privileges to/can then add person ### PYCharm #26463 (Tim has PyCharm and can check) Elliot can't reproduce; maybe it is PyCharm version-specific, maybe fixed. # 24 August 2023 _attending_: @efiring, @rcomer, @haoyingZhang, @ksunden, Eva Sibinga, @story645, @devRD, @QuLogic ## Agenda ### Old business ### New business - [x] RSE updates - [x] GSOC/GSOD updates - [x] 3.8rc - [x] what systems are supported? ## Notes ### small dev grant - mpl-playback has 50% feedback, question is how fast is good enough for doc builds ### tiny-icons - numfocus lawyers are talking to tiny-icons ### RSE - ksunden: NASA annual report, responding to 3.8 issue reports (Seaborn today); with Elliot, looked through Fedora build failures; mostly minor - Elliot: Fedora: only 5 are new failures; bugs reported. Nothing that we accidentally broke. Work on Meson port, facilitated by work done for numpy and scipy. Working on linux and Freetype versions. Should be ready for 3.9. ### GSOC/GSOD - Eva: draft PR coming in next few days with guidelines for tagging gallery examples. Includes examples of tags. - Ratna: GSOC final report deadline this week. Some longterm issues depend on future work. New features have been added. ### 3.8 Not too many complaints about backwards incompatibility. ### What systems do we support? Whatever is reasonable: we can test it, and there is a developer. Specific question: GTK on Mac? Maybe; updating for newer GTK API is good, provided the code still works on older versions. Testing of doc build on Windows? Maybe weekly? Hannah will investigate; requires command-line latex, etc. # 17 August 2023 _attending_: @efiring, @ksunden, @haoyingZhang, @melissawm, @chahakmehta, @oscargus, @devRD, @story645, @QuLogic, @rcomer ## Agenda ### Old business ### New business - [X] RSE updates - [X] GSOC/GSOD updates - [X] 3.8rc - [X] 3.9 - [x] small dev grant https://numfocus.org/programs/small-development-grants ## Notes ### Old Plausible: instance set up, managed by scientific python project; Elliot will contact Melissa via email regarding an address and contact. ### RSE - Kyle: new desktop set up. Annual report for NASA grant is underway. responding to 3.8 bug reports; general maint. Fix sphinx - Elliott: mostly typing on mathtext; CI maint.; Cirrus is working, but should we enable it? Other maint. - Melissa: "plausible", working on reports, winding down. ### GSOC/GSOD - Ratna: various mathtext features - Hannah: no update this week ### 3.8 - Oscar: https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26522 Do we need better validation? ### 3.9 - Haoying: https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/26092 - RGBA array + alpha kwarg input - scaler alpha: - 2D and RGB - overwrites - RGBA - works, unclear if blend or overwrite - array alpha: - 2D array w/ colormap (no A): overwrites cmap(2d Array)(A=1) - 2D array w/ colormap w/ A: unknown cmap(2d Array) - RGB: ignores alpha -> RGB(A=1) - RGBA array: ignores proposed solutions: - ignore one alpha - either A or alpha - blend A and alpha - - consensus: to consistenly blend, treat alpha=None as alpha=1 ### small dev grant Due... Sept 8 - mpl-playback: https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/23441 # 10 August 2023 _attending_: @efiring, @rcomer, @ksunden, @melissawm, @oscargus, @haoyingZhang, @devRD, @QuLogic, @story645, @chahakmehta, @anntzer, @tacaswell ## Agenda ### Old business ### New business - [x] RSE updates - [x] GSOC/GSOD updates - [x] NF summit - [x] 3.8rc1 is out! - [x] 3.9 goals? ## Notes ### RSE - Thomas - clearing issues, helping with 3.8 - Kyle - geting 3.8rc1 out the door - pypy wheel building / musl - Elliott - finishing up 3.8, ps work, doc work - Mellissa - working on grant report / wrapup - planning to do some doc work ### GSOC/GSOD - Ratna (GSOC) - had a couple of stalled issues, currently working on resolving - was waiting on feedback on alignment which was gotten, dealing with consequences - Hannah (GSOD) - there is a PR that needs review ### NF summit - Ruth and Tim will be representing Matplotlib - pass them anything we want to communicate to NF or other projects ### 3.8.0rc1 - please test! - question about typing private methods - not done in first pass because it is aimed at down-stream tools - not done to try and put upper bound on initial work - we will take PRs to add types to private methods going forward ### 3.9 goals - finish rcparams work (chahak) - linestyles (from Oscar, need input from Tim) - continue to (re)organize the docs - backend selection improvements / pull in mpl-gui ()https://github.com/matplotlib/mpl-gui - pull mplcairo into core? ### plausible (website analytic) - scientific python has an instance ### symlog locater - internal list is not ordered, should we fix it or just test the current behavior - decide to just leave ### # 03 August 2023 _attending: @efiring, @rcomer, @greglucas, @ksunden, @devRD, @tacaswell , @story645 ## Agenda ### Old business ### New business - [x] RSE updates - [x] GSOD / GSOC updates - [x] 3.8 rc?! - [ ] where to put the GSOD output: [organize docs devdocs](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/26392) ## Notes ### updates - RSE update - Tom: where did july go?! Some 3.8 work + behind the scenes work - Kyle: - 3.8 prep - got the pyparsing fix commited upstream and backported to 3.7.x - working with xarray to deal with our coming type hints, at least one fix on our side - all main release critical stuff is done - Elliott: - typing work for 3.8 (using mypy --strict and fixing small things) - mplsphinx-theme to upload automatically - GSOC - ok-ish - been working on a couple of issues that are not clear, waiting on feedback - looking at bold caligraphy - sized delimiters - GSOD - Eva has a couple of small PRs in the queue - text is getting ready - where to put it? - going well - ### 3.8 progress - one PR from @QuLogic with lots of little type hint fixes https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/26407 - tonight or tomorrow ### news - we have a pypi org now ### orginize the docs - @story645 is going to start writing a documentation road map # 27 July 2023 ## Agenda _attending_: @efiring, @jklymak, @ksunden, @devRd, @RaphaelQuast, @haoyingZhang, @qulogic, @story645 ### Old business ### New business - [x] RSE updates - [x] [name=hannah] [Simple Icons permission](https://github.com/simple-icons/simple-icons/issues/3410#issuecomment-671602746) - [x] [name=hannah] [new docs labels](https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/labels?q=document) - [ ] 3.8 outstanding issues ### PRs and Issues - [x] [name=ratna] Hrule rendering: https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/23763 - [ ] [name=raphael] pan/zoom of overlapping axes https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/22347 - [ ] antialiasing in mathtext https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26376 ## Notes ### RSE updates - @ksunden: reviews for 3.8 in particular (typing w/ Elliott) - @QuLogic typing work, largely internal - @Ratna: GSoC - mathtext. Draft PRs (hrule, latin) - @hannah: GSoD - second eval submitted, halfway through first pass tagging, private draft of tagging + content guidelines ### Typing - new 3.8 - maybe some release strategy - document for users, developers - downstream projects: some comms at scipy as may affect them. - Microsoft has some type hints that people have used. - project ones take precedence (probably) ### Hrule - Hrule rendering: https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/23763 - maybe clarify issue more - contact @anntzer with write up of problem and potential repair paths ### tiny icon - https://github.com/simple-icons/simple-icons/issues/3410#issuecomment-671602746 - trademark issue? - numfocus? - https://github.com/simple-icons/simple-icons/blob/develop/DISCLAIMER.md - [x] @story645 emailed Numfocus & CCed steering-council ### Doc github labels - more fine grained than before ### RC 3.8 - pyparsing issue; pinned for now - testing issue... - user facing in error handling... - contouring antialiasing - re-adding property - some deprecations recommend deprecated properties ### pan/zoom of overlapping axes - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/22347 ### mathtext anti aliasing? - needs review - 3.8? - https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/26376