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What is the original route of this train? Judging by the name, it should traverse Bihar only. While Jhakhand
was part of Bihar once; I don't think Durg or Raipur ever was and neither was Asansol. Anyone know the
history of this train?

Feb 28 2021 (10:23)

Re# 4891214-2 by Returning to Life
@4891214-0 @
I believe it was started as 87/88 Tata Patna Express (?during 1950)

Feb 28 2021 (10:32)

Re# 4891214-3 by d1arindam
@4891214-0 @
In an early ER time table there were two trains weekly North Bihar exp between Hwh & Samastipur and
South Bihar express between Tatanagar & Patna. Before year 2000 in erstwhile Bihar Singbhum area
belongs to Southern part of Bihar thats the reason for such nomenclature. In the picture of an 1986 SER
timetable I ve shown the details.
Another interesting part of Aggressive timing ofTata-Patna super (83 up/ 84 Dn) In almost 8hrs 30 mnts.
Which No train dare to maintain.

Feb 28 2021 (10:46)

Re# 4891214-4 by AJ®
@4891214-0 @
It was an overnight train between Danapur and Tata Nagar when Bihar was combined. later Jharkhand
came in existence. Train too got extended till Rourkela then Raigarh later Raipur and then till Durg. Train ka
naam abtak South Bihar Exp hi hai.

Feb 28 2021 (12:50)

Re# 4891214-5 by
@4891214-3 @d1arindam
Is it one of those Bradshaw timetables?

Feb 28 2021 (12:51)

Re# 4891214-6 by
@4891214-4 @AJ®
Danapur to Tata makes sense. I wonder if they extended it for political reasons. In either case, this is one of
the few trains whose name should be changed (unlike most other useles changes) since the current one is
confusing.

Feb 28 2021 (13:14)

Re# 4891214-7 by AJ®
@4891214-6 @
well i guess its been extended for better connectivity.. ye 2003/04 tak me Durg extend ho gayi thi. us samay
Patna se Odhisha aur Chhatisgarh ki connectivity poor thi.

Naam yahi theek hai. Change karne ki jarurat nahin hai

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Feb 28 2021 (13:19)

Re# 4891214-8 by
@4891214-7 @AJ®
It isn't a Bihar only train anymore. It traverses three states(technically four, since Asansol is as well). Better
to name Durg Patna or something generic like that.

Feb 28 2021 (13:20)

Re# 4891214-9 by ♥Shan E Anga विक्रमशिला एक्सप्रेस ♥
@4891214-6 @
South Bihar hi naam rhne dijye change krne ka koi jrort nhi

Feb 28 2021 (13:27)

Re# 4891214-10 by Sachin Sinha
@4891214-8 @
Think of Patna as the new South Bihar
For us Biharis the holy river Ganges divides the state into 'Ganga k is paar' and 'Ganga k us paar', Patna is
as South Bihar as it gets

Feb 28 2021 (13:29)

Re# 4891214-11 by AJ®
@4891214-8 @
is train ke passenger abtak isko Tata Patna hi bulate hain jabki ye train 17-18yrs se Durg se chal rahi hai. Aur
aap South Bihar Exp naam badwalwana chahte hain..

Do you know there's a train name Vananchal Exp between BGP & RNC .. isn't it confusing as there's nothing
like Vananchal even exist. Still people never demanded for name change.

South Bihar aur Vananchal jaisi trains emotion hain is area ke liye. Koi naam nahin badlwayega iska

Feb 28 2021 (13:31)

Re# 4891214-12 by Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
@4891214-3 @d1arindam
Ye TAAG kis year ka hai?

Feb 28 2021 (13:34)

Re# 4891214-13 by Sachin Sinha
@4891214-11 @AJ®
Arey hm bihari log toh train ka naam archana upasana bhi rakhte hain
Ab wo naam q rakha gya h ye hmlog discuss na karein toh better h

Feb 28 2021 (13:36)

Re# 4891214-14 by
@4891214-11 @AJ®
I don't have the authority to change the name :p. I was merely giving my opinion that the name is
geographically outdated and should be updated to better reflect the current situation. IR regularly changes
names for the worse, usually for political reasons. Surely, this isn't the worst instance.

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Re# 4891214-15 by AJ®
@4891214-12 @Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation

Feb 28 2021 (13:37)

Re# 4891214-16 by Sachin Sinha
@4891214-12 @Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
Ye itna pehle ka h na ki jb maurya exp ranchi jaati bhi nhi thi, dhn ki train thi

Feb 28 2021 (13:42)

Re# 4891214-17 by Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
@4891214-16 @Sachin Sinha
Tata Muzaffarpur Express likha hua hai us TAAG me.Jo Gorakhpur Extend ho gaya tha baad me.Aaj ye train
kaha hai pata hi nhi

Feb 28 2021 (13:43)

Re# 4891214-18 by Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
@4891214-16 @Sachin Sinha
Maurya sabse pahle kis route par start hui thi

Feb 28 2021 (13:44)

Re# 4891214-19 by jigyasusingh47
@4891214-17 @Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
Bhai ek list bnna ke btta skte ho abb takk muzaffarpur se kitni trains extend hui lgta h kch jyda hi hui h
north bihar gkp v mfp se..etc ecr ki meherbani

Feb 28 2021 (13:46)

Re# 4891214-20 by Sachin Sinha
@4891214-18 @Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
Dhn se khulti thi, aur gkp toh nhi hi jaati thi
Sbse pehli dedicated jharkhand bihar ki train 18623/24 h, jo ki 1964 se chal rhi h jb chandrapura-muri
section khula tha

Feb 28 2021 (13:48)

Re# 4891214-21 by Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
@4891214-20 @Sachin Sinha
1994 ke Rail Budget ka extension list.
Bagh Express pahle Howrah Gorakhpur thi,fir Kathgodam extend kiya.
Patna Hatia ko Jhasurguda extend kiya

Feb 28 2021 (13:50)

Re# 4891214-22 by Sachin Sinha
@4891214-19 @jigyasusingh47
North bihar ki jitni bhi purani train dekho na, unka 75 percent chance h ki wo ek time muzaffarpur ki rhi
hogi
Aur agar naya train dekhna h toh bju jo abhi just gyi h usko dekho

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Re# 4891214-23 by jigyasusingh47
@4891214-21 @Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
Muzaffarpur aise main point m situated h line ki north bihar,east bihar,north east up-bihar sbb taraff se
train origin ho aur yahan se extend ho ..issiliye kaffi chlli gyi ecr ne chhoti jagaho ko v de di.

Feb 28 2021 (13:54)

Re# 4891214-24 by जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
@4891214-21 @Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
Tata mfp abhi tata chhapra hai?
Aur ye patna jharsuguda kon train hai?

Feb 28 2021 (13:56)

Re# 4891214-25 by Sachin Sinha
@4891214-24 @ जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
Dono hatia patna ko extend krne k bohot proposal aaye the pehle but kbhi extend hui nhi thi pehle
Ab toh dono ko barbaad kr diya gya islampur aur saharsa wagera bhej k

Feb 28 2021 (13:57)

Re# 4891214-26 by CircarExpress
@4891214-18 @Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
Maurya express was was originally running between Dhanbad and Muzaffarpur.

Feb 28 2021 (13:57)

Re# 4891214-27 by Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
@4891214-24 @ जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
Tata mfp ko to Gorakhpur Extend kiya tha 1994 me.baad me saayad Tata se bhi aage kahi extend kar diya
hoga.
Patna Jhasurguda ka bhi pata nhi.
Aur afterall ye sab pata hoga bhi kaise,1994 ka baat hai ye sab,aur ham khud 1998 me aaye hai.
Koi 90s ka railfan hi bata sakta hai.

Feb 28 2021 (13:58)

Re# 4891214-28 by GoCoronaGo
@4891214-14 @
How are you claiming geographically outdated now? It connects south bihar with chhattisgarh. So south
bihar name is fine. Patna, gaya is part of south bihar after creation of JH

Feb 28 2021 (13:59)

Re# 4891214-29 by AJ®
@4891214-20 @Sachin Sinha
us samay Jharkhand kahan tha?
Patliputra Exp DHN se PNBE via JSME thi. Ganga Damodar via Gaya.
Patli baad me RNC se kar di gayi.

Feb 28 2021 (14:00)

Re# 4891214-30 by Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
@4891214-26 @CircarExpress
First time knowing this.

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Re# 4891214-31 by AJ®
@4891214-21 @Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
Jhasurguda extension hua nahin kabhi uska

Feb 28 2021 (14:01)

Re# 4891214-32 by d1arindam
@4891214-5 @
no no 1987 october SER original
in my custody! Woh zamana jab Cigarette/bidi ka advt timetable mein hota tha; See the punchline " serves
INDIAN RAILWAYS Stations"

Feb 28 2021 (14:02)

Re# 4891214-33 by d1arindam
@4891214-12 @Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
TAAG nahi SER ka october 1987

Feb 28 2021 (14:02)

Re# 4891214-34 by Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
@4891214-31 @AJ®
Par ham jo 1994 ke railbudget ka photo bheje usme likha hua hai

Feb 28 2021 (14:03)

Re# 4891214-35 by Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
@4891214-23 @jigyasusingh47
Kis line pe situated hai isse koi lena dena nhi hai.Space hi nhi hai utna train rakhne ka to extend kar deta hai

Feb 28 2021 (14:05)

Re# 4891214-36 by jigyasusingh47
@4891214-35 @Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
Main line m h na..loop lines hi abb smjh lo main origin point h new trains k..aur politically v koi accha mp
rhta toh kch trains mfp ki extend nhi hoti..utna space toh hoga jaise pehle itna origin hota tha

Feb 28 2021 (14:07)

Re# 4891214-37 by जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
@4891214-28 @GoCoronaGo
Ham to aaj bhi jharkhand ko bihar hi samajhte hain
Koi Bura na mane.
Just feeling

Feb 28 2021 (14:07)

Re# 4891214-38 by d1arindam
@4891214-16 @Sachin Sinha
Woh bhi de dete hai
yeh dekhiye
apka maurya, hatia-patna super, Madras-bokaro (now Alleppy-Dhanbad).

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Re# 4891214-39 by Sachin Sinha
@4891214-29 @AJ®
Mera matlab us samay k South bihar se tha jisko ab jharkhand bolte hain.. Parliamentary questionnaire
mein aksar ye pucha jaata 60s, 70s mein ki railways 'South' bihar se patna k liye kya trains chala rhi h
Kuch log 'industrial bihar' term bhi use krte the

Feb 28 2021 (14:08)

Re# 4891214-40 by AJ®
@4891214-34 @Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
wahi hum bata rahe ki budget me proposal tha lekin extension hua nahi kabhi. SER reject kiya tha shayad..

Feb 28 2021 (14:09)

Re# 4891214-41 by jigyasusingh47
@4891214-37 @ जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
Ek difference h ki bihar m pass trains k development kaffi hua aur jk mein freights k kaffi jyda

Feb 28 2021 (14:09)

Re# 4891214-42 by
@4891214-28 @GoCoronaGo
It was originally Danapur Tata express; both part of Bihar then. Now Jharkhand is a separate state, plus it is
extended to Durg as well. Add in Asansol, and it spends majority of time outside the state of Bihar. The
original name of meant to imply that it covered the state of Bihar (southern) which is not relevant now.

Feb 28 2021 (14:11)

Re# 4891214-43 by d1arindam
@4891214-23 @jigyasusingh47
Tab sab train mfp tak hi jati thi. Karan ek hi hai Tab North Eastern zone ke 90% section meter gauge hi tha
except MFP-Raxaul section

Feb 28 2021 (14:11)

Re# 4891214-44 by जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
@4891214-41 @jigyasusingh47
Bihar me log jyada hai isliye.
& Jharkhand me khanij jyada
Vaise ab market badhane ke liye kai loop line DFC Ban gaya hai bihar me bhi

Feb 28 2021 (14:16)

Re# 4891214-45 by जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
@4891214-42 @
Bhai ye logik thik nahi hai.
1. Kosi express from saharsa to patna is now purnea to hatia
2. Maithili exp from darbhanga to kolkata
3. Mithilanchal from sitamarhi to kolkata
4. Vaishali saharsa to delhi
5. Mahananda alipurduar to delhi

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Re# 4891214-46 by jigyasusingh47
@4891214-44 @ जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
Ratan tata jee ne lkin shurat badal di industries se tata aur bksc m foreign plants aur dhn m coals..lkin asli
m jk m huge natural resources h freights kaffi chlti h bhut dhkta rnc,tata,bksc,dhn taraff..but mail/exp kaffi
kmm diya railway ne jk ko

Feb 28 2021 (14:19)

Re# 4891214-47 by जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
@4891214-46 @jigyasusingh47
Haa dena chahiye train.

Aur jharkhand me aaj bhi maithili, bhojpuri & maghi samuday hai jisse hamesha bihar se judav rahega.

Feb 28 2021 (14:20)

Re# 4891214-48 by Sachin Sinha
@4891214-46 @jigyasusingh47
Koi baat nhi bhai humaare maal bhaade k hi dum pe bharatwarsh mein railway tarakki krta h toh ismein kya
hi burai h
Haan thoda ajeeb zarur lgta tha jb bksc k platform pe maalgaadi khada dekhte the ghanto tk

Feb 28 2021 (14:23)

Re# 4891214-49 by Sachin Sinha
@4891214-47 @ जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
Jharkhand ka second sbse popular language bhojpuri hi h, jharkhand ki zyadatar demography bihar
dominated hi h
Jharkhand k bade bade neta cp singh, pn singh, samresh singh, chandrashekhar dubey aur ab nishikant
dubey aur ravindra pandey ye sb log bihar origin k hi hain

Feb 28 2021 (14:24)

Re# 4891214-50 by
@4891214-45 @ जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
My logic has a point. Just because Railway keeps extending trains for useless reasons which ends up
obliterating the original meaning of the train doesn't reduce my point's validity. In either case, I only stated
my point of view and everyone is entitled to theirs.

Feb 28 2021 (14:24)

Re# 4891214-51 by Indian Railways the Life Line of our Nation
@4891214-43 @d1arindam
1980s me North Bihar me bas Mfp spj bju kolkata route hi borad gauge tha.baaki Darbhanga motihari
Narkatiaganj raxaul etc sab meter gauge tha.
Even 2012 me bhi dbg Narkatiaganj raxaul Forbesganj Jogbani sab meter gauge hi tha.

Feb 28 2021 (14:25)

Re# 4891214-52 by jigyasusingh47
@4891214-47 @ जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
Lets see dheere-dheere mail/exp mill rhi h lkin dubey jee k karran unke constituency taraff se haar saal 3-5
trains mill rhi inke karran jk ko from previous 2-3 years..Bakki koi v jagah jk k mp koi interested nhi h apni
area k liye..

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Re# 4891214-53 by जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
@4891214-52 @jigyasusingh47
Godda jila railway me 0 tha.
Ab vaha rail hogi.
Ye achchhi bat hai isme.

Feb 28 2021 (14:53)

Re# 4891214-54 by MKS
@4891214-3 @d1arindam
Yes 83/84 Tata-Patna Super used to be real 'Super' train those days..Almost 3 hrs faster than today..What a
fall !

Feb 28 2021 (14:56)

Re# 4891214-55 by jigyasusingh47
@4891214-54 @MKS
Hn bhai Pehle waisi speed thi aur itna jldi phunchati thi issiliye super naam jhachta h lkin abb toh bss local k
liye ek naam h super..in reality speed-time bhut kmm h:-(

Feb 28 2021 (15:01)

Re# 4891214-56 by जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
@4891214-54 @MKS
Us time aisa kya tha jo aaj se bhi fast chalti thi?
Abhi to wap4/7 hai.
Fir bhi

Feb 28 2021 (15:02)

Re# 4891214-57 by MKS
@4891214-25 @Sachin Sinha
Barbaad nahi hui..8625/6 Hatia-Patna Super aaj bhi utna hi popular train hai..Patna se aaj bhi maximum
boarding & deboarding dono hota hai usme..Time table bhi waisa hi hai..barbaad ho jayegi jab iska time
table mein drastic change aayega..like kal ko koi politician Purnea ko khush rakhne ke liye isko day train se
night bana de..fir galat hoga..dono end se day train hi rehna chahiye yeh..ussi mein speedup hona chahiye.

Feb 28 2021 (15:11)

Re# 4891214-58 by MKS
@4891214-56 @ जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
Haa traffic kam tha aaj ke time se, but halts bhi kaafi kam thay..aaj bhar bhar ke halts hai 8183/4 ke..MPS
toh almost same hi hai..aggressive train hua karti thi..Aise hi name Super Express nahi aaya..jaise Rajesh
jaise kids ke liye aaj speed matlab SK hai, waise hi 80s walo ke Super Express, Toofan Express hua karti thi.

Feb 28 2021 (15:20)

Re# 4891214-59 by MKS
@4891214-42 @
Yes South Bihar name isn't relevant now but as Amit Jha ji said that South Bihar name is an emotion..It is
true..It should be left as it is..Mujhe nahi lagta hai ki kisi ko bhi iss name se koi problem hoga.

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Re# 4891214-60 by MKS
@4891214-43 @d1arindam
Yes correct..MFP se past mein trains extend hone ka ye bahut bada reason hai..pehle udhar MG line
tha..Vaishali Express (then Jayanti Janta) bhi Patna hoke jati thi due to same reason.

Feb 28 2021 (15:33)

Re# 4891214-61 by Sachin Sinha
@4891214-57 @MKS
Wo aaj pichle do saal mein maybe 8625 thodi punctual h isliye shayad aapko thik lg rhi h lekin beech mein 8-
9 saal jb train saharsa se aati thi toh ghanto late rehti thi patna stn pe, 11.40 departure time tha aur train
daily dopahar mein do dhaai baje k karib nikalti thi pnbe se
Hm khud kitna baar 8 baje raat mein bokaro pohonche hain
So superhit yes, but punctuality etc toh khatm ho hi gyi thi is train ki kai saalon tk

Feb 28 2021 (17:07)

Re# 4891214-62 by AJ®
@4891214-56 @ जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
Alco ke sath wo TT follow karti thi.. i remember ASN-PNBE route electrification ke baad bhi 2011/12 tak TATA
DNR ko ASN-DNR me Alco hi link tha..

us zamane me Halts kam the Super ke. ab to har jagah rukti hai

Feb 28 2021 (17:12)

Re# 4891214-63 by d1arindam
@4891214-62 @AJ®
mujhe yad hai 2013 me 8184 ko alco se sath dekha tha purulia station par.

Feb 28 2021 (17:15)

Re# 4891214-64 by d1arindam
@4891214-62 @AJ®
kya run tha uska, real real super.
stoppage tha sirf prr, burn, asn aur jsme.
No joc, no mdp, no jaj

Feb 28 2021 (17:26)

Re# 4891214-65 by जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
@4891214-61 @Sachin Sinha
Pahle ka late hone ka reason tha ki old tt pe saharsa se purnea extend hui. Aur phir return me late ho jati
thi.
Uske bad 8626 ka tt change hua patna to prnc.
08625 ka bhi prnc to pnbe.
Phir thik hua.
Same vaishali bhi pahle late hua karti thi kai mahine tak.
But ab nahi hoti hai.
Ise ek rake mil gaya aur 15279 se RSA.
shuru me jab extand hua to Sabse jyada loss rajyarani ko hua.
1 yr tak slow TT par chalne lagi thi.
Ab dono ka time adjust karke achchha kiya gaya hai.

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Re# 4891214-66 by AJ®
@4891214-64 @d1arindam
TATA se Patna ko 8hr 30 min me cover karna with Alco khud batata hai ki kaisi train thi ye..

Feb 28 2021 (17:41)

Re# 4891214-67 by जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
@4891214-66 @AJ®
Jab 2012 me rajyarani chali thi to koi socha bhi nahi tha ki 4 hrs me saharsa se patna pahunch jayenge.
Jabki Kosi aur intercity abhi bhi 6/7 hrs le rahi hai. Isliye 5713, 5281 ke maximum. Passenger isme shift ho
gaye
Abhi bhi KGG PNBE Route me koi train itna fast nahi hai.
Same aisa hi super ka raha hoga.

Feb 28 2021 (17:54)

Re# 4891214-68 by MKS
@4891214-65 @ जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
Haa..ek aur reason 15282/18698 (then Kosi Exp) ke delay ka tha 12423 ka crossing..jab 12423 via MKA aati thi
toh 15282/18698 ko MKA-HTZU-Simaria mein kaafi detain karte..jiski wajah se 15282/18698 late pahuchti aur
15281/18697 reschedule ho jati thi.

Feb 28 2021 (18:12)

Re# 4891214-69 by Saurabh®
@4891214-4 @AJ®
After rourekela the link part 3287A/3288A was extended to bilaspur. Then the link was cancelled and the
whole rake started coming to bilaspur. After some time the train was extended to durg on one end and
short terminated to rjpb from Danapur earlier.
It never terminated at raigarh or raipur

Feb 28 2021 (18:14)

Re# 4891214-70 by Saurabh®
@4891214-0 @
To Aisa karo, agar rail Ministry mein sources hai to name yahi rakho aur train ko wapas tata mein short
terminate karwa do....

Feb 28 2021 (18:18)

Re# 4891214-71 by AJ®
@4891214-69 @Saurabh®
thanks for the valuable information bro..

Feb 28 2021 (18:24)

Re# 4891214-72 by MKS
@4891214-67 @ जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
Bilkul waisa hi Super ka tha jaisa aapke liye aaj Rajyarani hai between KGG-PNBE..Below 3 hours mein cover
kar leti hai KGG-PNBE..waise hi Super 9 hours se kam mein cover leti thi.
Generally agressive time table wali trains long time tak apna status maintain nahi rakh paati hai..reason
hota hai extra halts add hona ya train ka extension ho jana..joki mostly politicians ki wajah se hota hai.

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Feb 28 2021 (18:35)

Re# 4891214-73 by जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
@4891214-72 @MKS
Tagra wl hai.
Sham tak aate aate itna ho jata hai.
Jabki next day available hai.

Feb 28 2021 (19:05)

Re# 4891214-74 by MKS
@4891214-73 @ जय जय भैरवी असुर भयावनी
Haa..WL kuch jyada hi hai..waise Intercity trains mein ek din pehle hi booking hota hai..ab toh 2S mein bhi
reservation hai toh current booking bhi khub hota hoga last 15 mins (before departure) tak..2S reservation
ki wajah se kuch Intercity trains khali bhi reh jati hogi..But KGG ke liye 02567,05713 mein 2S reservation sahi
hi hai..Covid se pehle inn trains ka GS coach pehle se hi bhara hua aata tha (mai khud 05713 mein latak ke
aaya hu KGG-PNBE)..But ab 2S reservation ki wajah se KGG, BGS ko equal opportunity milta hai booking ka
like KIR & SHC..but ye chiz har Intercity trains ke liye thik nahi hai.

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