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Week 1 They Say You Say

This chapter discusses the importance of order in academic writing. It recommends starting by introducing other perspectives on the topic ("they say") before presenting your own ideas ("you say"). This helps readers follow the discussion and engages them in the topic. The chapter provides examples of introducing other views, and emphasizes using "return sentences" to reference earlier ideas and maintain coherence. It also discusses balancing introducing other views with presenting your own analysis.

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Week 1 They Say You Say

This chapter discusses the importance of order in academic writing. It recommends starting by introducing other perspectives on the topic ("they say") before presenting your own ideas ("you say"). This helps readers follow the discussion and engages them in the topic. The chapter provides examples of introducing other views, and emphasizes using "return sentences" to reference earlier ideas and maintain coherence. It also discusses balancing introducing other views with presenting your own analysis.

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Reading Report for Submission Name: Huma Nasir

Summary:
This chapter of “they say you say” talks about the importance of the order which is helpful for the
reader to understand and be engaged with topic, on the other hand it is also helpful for the writer to
convey his material properly. We should start from “they say” (means what others say) and then talk
about “you say” as a respond because in start readers process material—and writers think and develop
ideas. There are lots of conventional ways to introduce what others are saying, like:
i. Standard view
ii. Introducing something implied or assumed
iii. An ongoing debate
iv. starting with a proposition.
It is not enough to write what they say once because reader will forget about it, so we need to use
return sentences as return sentences ensure that our text maintains a sense of mission and urgency
from start to finish.
Observations:
1: The writer starts chapter with a story which helps to understand the importance of “they say”. This
story also illustrates an important lesson about the order in which things are said. (Page 43-44)
2: There are templets and examples which helped to understand the topic.
3: It is good to know that “This story also illustrates an important lesson about the order in which things
are said.”
4: It was new for me to know about the “return sentence” and its important in writing.
5: At the end of the chapter the writer provides an activity which a help reader to not only understand
the teaching but also practice it.
Personal Response:
This chapter of “They say I say” is amazingly good for me. It is highly informative with an easy style of
academic writing, which means amazingly effective for readers in terms of learning and understanding.
Cheery on the top is writer provided examples and templates as well. I did not find any thing to be
disagreeable but there are some points that borders me, like:
1: The writer started his chapter with an example, which could be nice for many readers but at the same
time for the readers like me could also feel like the chapter is not started from there and it is the middle
of the writings, or might be reader’s mind also question that is it a fictional book or non fictional book?
2: Writer said in the whole chapter that we need to start from they say but in the last paragraph of page
44 he said that “This is not to say that you must start with a detailed list of everyone who has written on
your subject before you offer your own ideas.” So, my question is how we can know which we should
write, and which should we ignore? Or I should say how we can know the limits?
3: At the end of page 46 writer introduced some templets of conversational ways but some of them seem
like they are not conversational way to start because they are conveying information so why not they are
informational or expository way to begin?
4: What the writer meant by “you need to present that argument as part of some larger conversation,
indicating something about the arguments of others that you are supporting, opposing, amending,
complicating, or qualifying”. (Page 45)
5: On page 51 we came to know about the importance of return sentence, but execs use of return sentence
also can irritate the reader so how we can set a boundary?

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