ATMA Technical Analysis
ATMA Technical Analysis
about Trading
Nooresh Merani
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Introduction
• IT Engineer ( many here)
• Quit an IT Job ( who doesn’t
want to)
• Blog, Tweet, Chat
• Full time for 10 years.
• I am not a CMT
• I am not a MBA , CFA , CA
training sessions on
• 100-200 +
Technical Analysis
• Pakoed thousands of people in
Technical Seminars ( U are not I am a
the only unlucky audience) “Trader”, “Adviser”, “Educator”
• 2500 posts nooreshtech.co.in
•
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Technology - Trader/Adviser and Trainer
Tweetups, Reach
Personal Chat,
Friends, Learning, Groups
Awareness
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How to Invest Technically !!
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Technical Analysis
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Myth - Technical Analysis is for Day
Traders
• The biggest myth about Technical Analysis is that it
can be used only for quick traders doing day
trading, swing trading.
• Its all about Buy XYZ Ltd at 100 rs stoploss 96 target
106 !
• Then everyone keeps shouting about Maine Bola
Tha
• There are so many business channels and so many
analysts !!
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Lets Start with What we do on TV
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Number of Traders in India
• Number of Demat Accounts = 3-4 cr.
• Number of HNI accounts = 1.25 lakhs ( Multiply by 3
as below data is only CDSL ) so say 4 lakhs.
• How many of these will be traders ? Some may not
have any demat holdings – But still how many ?
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Advisory Services – More Advisors than Traders
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Algorithmic Trading and Options
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Technical Analysis for Long Term
• Long Term Uptrends start with multi-year
consolidations.
• Not difficult to spot Multi-Year High Breakouts and
Momentum.
• In a long term uptrend – Benchmark Indices
continue to make Higher Tops and Higher Bottoms.
• Lets look at previous such cycles with examples.
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Long Term Analysis of Broader Market
Trends - Nifty and Broader Indices.
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The Market has Three Trends
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Multi-Year Highs and HT HB
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Dow Theory - Major Trends Have Three Phases:
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Sensex – 2003-2007 after Multi-Year Highs
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Sensex 2008-2010
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Investing in strong uptrends.
A 6 yr breakout a simple
time to Invest and Ride
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Random Portfolio in a Trend
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their-services-part-1.html
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Investing at Technically Bottoming out
Zones - RSI / Channels/Sentiments.
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RSI –Oversold Zones – Deploy Cash
• Deploy cash in parts at Oversold zones.
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Nifty – RSI in 2015-2016
Positive
Divergences No Positive
Positive Divergence Yet
RSI at 30 &
Divergences
Channel Support
Positive Divergence
and Channel Support
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Nifty 2013-2014
In an uptrend –
No dips to 30
RSI
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RSI Strategy – Customizations
• Prefer to buy stock specific in oversold zones.
• Bounce of 6-10% on Nifty and a much bigger bounce on 3 bottoms
with divergences.
• Deploy cash in 2 steps at 30 RSI and Positive Divergence.
• On 3rd Bottom buy into Call Options.
• In a strong uptrend – Multi Year Highs / All Time Highs there may not
be dips to Oversold Zones.
• Book Partial Profits at 70 + RSI.
• Traders can size up more on Positive Divergences as better risk-
reward.
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Sectoral Leadership
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Sectoral Leadership
• Check Sectoral Indices on NSE / BSE
• Sometimes a lot of stocks within similar sectors look to be breaking
out. ( Ex – Sugars / Textiles/ Chemical/Paper ) which do not have a
sectoral index.
• Look for New Highs/Relative Outperformance to Nifty/Sensex.
• Sectoral Trends start with Larger Names and end with Microcap
Names rallying. Example Lupin to Lincoln Pharma
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FMCG – 2009-2013 – ITC ended up No 1 on Nifty
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Pharma Index – 2012-2015 –Started with Sun Pharma/Lupin
ended with Lincoln/Marksans
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Techno Funda – Textiles Sector
• All the stocks in the sector first gave a breakout in
Mid of 2014.
• A further confirmation with strong volumes in 2015.
• At the same time Index had topped.
• Strong relative outperformance suggested
something big is cooking.
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Vardhman Textiles – The biggie
Further
confirmation
Volumes
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KPR Mills – Shift to Garmenting
Volumes
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Welspun India – Its never too late in a
trend
Further
confirmation
Volumes
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Himatsingka Seide
Further
confirmation
Channel Breakout
Volumes
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Kitex Garments – Never too Late
Trend Continues
Volumes
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Indo Count – What a Miss – be patient
Further
confirmation
Big Trend
Breakout
Of 5-8 years
Volumes
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Indo Count – What a Move !!
20-30 x in 2-3
years
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Heart Burn of Catching it Early,
Buying tiny only but not riding it
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Welspun Syntex – IFCI sold at 60
giving the trigger
Further
confirmation
Big Pattern
Breakout
Of 5-8 years
Volumes
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Increasing Cash on Topping Out or
Breakdowns in Long Term Trends.
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When to Start Increasing Cash
• Previously we focused on RSI as a good tool to
deploying cash and selection of sectors through
relative outperformance.
• Now comes the part of when to increase Cash.
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Bottom Breaks
And Unable to Nifty – Last 2 years
cross previous
Trendline/Channel
highs in the
Breakdown
pullback
Breaks the
bottoms and
trendline at
8400-8500.
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Bottom
Breaks Nifty 2009-2013
And Unable
to cross
previous
highs in the
pullback
This was a
tough zone.
Whipsaws
with new
highs and
new lows in
months
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2005-2009 – Trend Followers Paradise
Bottom Breaks
And Unable to
cross previous
highs in the
pullback
Trendline breaks
too and what a
downtrend.
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Smallcap and Sensex
Smallcap in an
Smallcap – Moving opposite direction !!
in Direction of
Sensex. Although
Smallcap in an
outperforming.
opposite direction !!
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MultiBaggers – Google Trends crosses 2007
highs !!
Wrote this
post on
06th
January
2016.
Did
increase
cash and
re-jig
portfolio
but not
enough
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2010 Rally and 2013 Panic
Smallcap – Moving
in Direction of
Sensex. But a
vertical move with
no pause !!
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2007 – As vertical as it can be !!
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Full Time Trader !!
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A Full Time Trader is the best Career
You can trade from anywhere with a laptop and a steady net connection.
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The Wow Factor
• Market timings 9.00 to 3.30. ( Wow a 6 1/2 hour working day. )
• Work from home. ( Who doesn’t love to work in their boxers ? )
• No Boss, No Appraisal ( I am the Boss )
• Total Mobility. Work from anywhere with a net connection ( Did
you not see that picture of a trader with a laptop in Goa ? )
• Tons of Money ( If you are full time trader you make more money
with the keyboard in your hands )
• More time with Family. ( What would i do if i get done at 3.30)
• I can take vacations whenever i want to ( and pray its not the big
up or down day – for a discretionary trader. Traders are more
weekenders )
• I just need to keep executing the system and chill. ( The backtest
results are just too good to think of position sizing)
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If you are Salaried
• A Monthly Pay Package – ( It always small but it comes.
Traders have bad months)
• 20 days of Paid Leave ( Create a Clone or Black Box
System or try trading on a vacation)
• Salary – Appraisals, Job Switch ( Traders have
drawdowns )
• Job Security or Alternative Opportunity. ( A trader can
only become an advisor with all the tensions )
• Experience increases value in job market and even
bonuses . Look at your boss he is older mostly not
smarter. ( Return depends on Market Trends not your
Age )
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What you need to Learn
• Everyone has a different methodology and belief.
• Technical Analysis, Derivative Strategy, Options Strategy, Day
Trading, Delta Hedging, Automated Trading Systems, Trend
Following,Gut Feel, Insider Trading, Tips, Advise etc.
• There is no point on debating which is the right way.
• Understand yourself before you understand the system.
• Every Trend creates a few Geniuses.
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Simple Rule
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A standard Trader Problem
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Find What Works for You
• Technical Analysis the Classical Way.
• Price, Volumes, Moving Averages, Patterns and
Individual Discretion.
• Techno Fundamental Analysis.
• Value Investing.
• Risk Management ,Common Sense & Luck.
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Some Questions
• Are you wanting to be a Full Time Trader because
you don’t like your Job/Business ?
• Are you in love or addicted with Markets ?
• There is no better thrill then a Winning Trade?
• I want more time for Family Life?
• How Long will I work for Someone?
• I want to be my own Boss?
• I want to make a lot of Money?
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Yes for Any Questions ?
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Trading Income
Capital Did we Miss
Did you even think You
( Yours or Others or a Prop Book ) Will Lose Money ??
Something ??
CAPITAL + RETURNS
Add Other Income
(Salary/Consulting/Business
etc )
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Assumptions
• A lot of people have discussed strategies and will
discuss ahead.
• I leave it to you to find what fits your temperament.
• Always remember – Every trend creates New
Geniuses. Check anything over multi year cycles.
• You will not use Crazy Leverage and lose 40-50-100-
150% of your portfolio.
• You will make returns more than the FD rate
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Simples Business
Raw Material
Buy Lemons, Sugar Salt and Ice
Raw Material is a big
criteria.
Capital = Raw
Material of Trading
Make Nimbu Paani Business
( learn recipe)
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How Much Capital Do You Need to
Become a Full Time Trader
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What do you Need to Become a Trader
•That’s so F$^$^$in
•Bank Account with lots
of Money easy.
•PAN Card •You need 45-50
•Trading Account with 45 certifications to open
signs. a Hotel .
•Computer/Laptop. •In Bull markets
•Software.
people want to
become full time
investors/traders
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How much time it takes for others
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How much do you need to Survive
• Assuming you will have all your income only from
markets for ease of calculation.
• Start with your Annual Expenses ( Include monthly
expenses + contingency fund + more )
• How much do you make in your Salary, Business.
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Sample Example
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Returns in a Year ? Consistently YOY
10% 50%
20%
Stop There
Exp
Earnings Wanted Capital
Return
1200000 10 12000000
1200000 20 6000000
1200000 30 4000000
1200000 40 3000000
1200000 50 2400000
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WHOA – We know the capital needed.
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You forgot Inflation.
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Considering 5% inflation
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The Big Bad Questions
• Will Returns be Linear at 30%
• When do you decide you cannot be a Trader. ( 30%
capital loss or how many years)
• Do you have an Emergency/Contigency Fund?
• How will you pay up your expenses in times of
drawdowns. You may essentially need at least 1 – 2
years salary in addition to your trading capital.
• Will you be able to add capital with increasing inflation
or do you believe that a couple of years as a fulltime
trader your expected returns should increase ?
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In Minimum case you need 5x your Annual Income.
A logical case you need 10 times your Annual Income
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How much Capital to be a Full Time
Investor
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Questions !!!
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Nooresh Merani
Cell: +91-9819225396
nooreshtech@analyseindia.com
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My Evolution
2004-2006 •Doing trial and error with
indicators/systems etc.
•Lost a lot and in debts.
•Learnt what not to do.
•Path to Recovery of Loss.
•Royally screwed – 6x to X.
2008 •Sit on Cash.
•Advisory/Training slows down.
Clients make their own mistakes.
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• Capital reduced from peak.
My Evolution
Mid 2009 •Nothing to do. No trades.
•Played Cricket/Football.
•Learning through smart people.
•Consolidating time.
2011-2013 •Lots of ups and Downs but nothing
major apart from one big trading
drawdown.
•Tried a few things and luckily
closed quicker before the things
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•Got married in 2012
•.
End 2013-2014 •Focused Effort on Trading with Higher
Capital.
•Strong growth in Advisory/Training also
continuing the Consulting.
•More Reading/Meeting People.
•The Best Year – Due to Bull Market.
•Trading Income – Much more important
than every other revenue stream.
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Nifty 2005-2008
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Technical Breakout at 6400.
Political Breakout at 7200/7600!!
• While everyone was trying to look at how many
seats does Modi get , the market had already
presumed and participated.
• We came out with a highly bullish report ( kept it
paid ) in March end 2014. ( in next presentation )
• So the trend was clear and just see how one does
not need to be smart in a multi-year trend.
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Nifty Breakout in 2014-2018 ?!!
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Nooresh Merani
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nooreshtech@analyseindia.com
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