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Sushant Singh • Following

B1.1 Senior Aircraft Maintenance Engineer/Flying Spanner at Interglobe Aviat…
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A very general query comes in mind of A320 engineers and pilots that while many
systems in A320 has mainly no.1 computer as NO GO item as per MMEL, but in flight
control system, ELAC 2 (elevator aileron computer) is NO GO instead of ELAC 1. Why
so?

Here is the answer airbus has provided in it’s IN SERVICE INFORMATION (ISI).

In case of Normal electrical power supply loss (loss of GEN1 and GEN2) (Also known as
Emergency electrical configuration)

- The electrical bus-bars 2PP (ELAC 2 / SEC 2 Normal supply) and 4PP (ELAC 1 / SEC 1
Normal supply) are lost, leading to the loss of ELAC 2, SEC 2, ELAC 1, SEC 1

And

- The blue electric pump is lost, leading to the loss of the blue hydraulic circuit.

In this configuration, the automatic RAT extension is launched. The RAT allows to
pressurize the blue hydraulic circuit and to supply the electrical bus-bar 4PP.

However, it takes a few seconds for the RAT to be fully operative. During this short
period:

- The blue hydraulic circuit is still not pressurized,

- ELAC 1 and SEC 1 are supplied through battery 1,

- ELAC 2 and THS motor 1 are supplied through battery 2

This configuration enables to operate the elevators with ELAC 2 on the left green
servocontrol and the right yellow servocontrol, and the THS with the ELAC 2 on the
motor 1.

If ELAC2 was under MEL, A/C Pitch authority would be temporarily lost (Elevator
Servocontrols in centering mode with Surfaces set to neutral) until RAT is running. This
is because ELAC 1 which is controlling elevators using blue hydraulic systems will
actually have no blue hydraulic power to control elevators temporarily till RAT comes.

This is the reason why the ELAC 2 is NO GO. #

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Sunny KALRA (He/Him) • 1st 10mo

Aviation/Aerospace | Customer Centric | Problem solving | Strategic | Learner

My interpretation on the same topic:

When there is a complete electrical power failure both ac bus bars out, the
control of elevator is lost due to no electrical power to ELAC AND SEC
At this moment, automatic deployment of RAT occurs to supply electrical
power to bus bars.
However, there is a lag of 8 seconds on the RAT (CSMG) to deploy and start
producing usable hydraulic and electrical power.
Therefore two scenarios can happen

Engine supplying hydraulic power through EDP but electrical system failure
In this case battery-1 will supply ELAC-1 & SEC-1, and Battery-2 will supply
ELAC-2 & THS motor-1. As per priority switching mode in flight controls,
during this lag as no blue hydraulic power is available due to loss of electrical
circuit, the control of THS and Elevator operation is assured by Green and
Yellow hydraulic power controlled by ELAC-2. As ELAC-1 cannot operate
elevator due lack of blue hydraulic pressure.

Summary : ELAC-2 is controlling green and yellow actuators of the elevator

during this 8 seconds lag, hence for safety reasons, ELAC-2 is no go.
#a320

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Sunny KALRA (He/Him) • 1st 10mo (edited)

Aviation/Aerospace | Customer Centric | Problem solving | Strategic |
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Total electrical power and hydraulic failure

In this scenario, batteries will supply as per above discussion, but
hydraullic power will only be available after blue system energizes,
therefore, elevator control is again assured by residual hydraulic power
of green and yellow accumulators through ELAC-2 during a time lag of
8 seconds. Refer diagram on PG-43 of pdf Airframe level-1, T1+T2
Course material.#320

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Selim Kona • Following 10mo

Freelance Basic/B1/B2 Aircraft Maintenance Instructor

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I want to add general information of master/company mel that based which
system powered by AC ESS BUS and/or DC ESS BUS so they are NO GO item
while lost of the all normal AC sources.I also add that philosophy for boxes
location in the avionic compartment at 80 VU ( 800 VU for A330) which is
diveded by the center wall. There ara a lot of computers are attached at left
hand side of 80/800 VU That means ,NO GO system computers.Tnx

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Nithiananthan Nagarajan • 2nd 10mo

Sr Aircraft Technician. BAMEEC Holder B2(E,I,R) & RTR License

would like to add more info...on 80VU & 90VU diveded into left & right
partitions for exclusive AVIONICS COMPUTER (LRU) system 1 usually
located on Left partition and system 2 on right side partition.. only SEC
computer has 1,2,3. 1 & 2 @ 80 VU.....SEC 3 on 90VU...!

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Ralph Fernandes • 2nd 10mo

Aircraft Maintenance Engineer

Good one 👍
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Antonius Prasetyo • 1st 10mo

Senior Instructor for Maintenance Type Training (A320/A330 CEO/NEO) at Lion
Group Training Center (subsidiary of Lion Air Group)

A complete information, sir.

Usually, NO GO (or in Airbus normaly states as NO DISPATCH) is based on
computer electrical power source.
Similar condition is occur on A330 with FCPC (prim computer) 2.

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Claude-S. Seron • 2nd 10mo

TRIA330-A350 /TRIA320 chez GTA Aviation & Airbus Ferry Pilot

Thank you , dear Sushant ! A nice explanation !

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Petr Rezek • 2nd 10mo

Airline Captain/ Fighter pilot, Flight Safety Officer, Military jets Functional Test
pilot, Military Fast jets Instructor pilot,CRM facilitator, Military Turbine
Helicopter pilot, Mil Spin pilot, CEO at REZEK GUITARS.

Thanks

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Matteo Fumagalli • 2nd 10mo
A320 Captain Easa TRI(MPA) Airbus A320

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Aaron Callaghan • 2nd 10mo

Licensed Aircraft Engineer B1.1 EASA B1.1, FAA A&P, GCAA B1.1, DGCA B1.1
QCAA B1.1. Type Rated on Airbus A320ceo/neo, A330-200/300/200F, A350,
B777

Nailed it

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Jose Salvador Maza Moreno • 2nd 10mo

FAA A&P 2762926 - Calidad / SMS / Instructor Tecnico A320/ A321/ A330 &
B767 MAS SAC Peru OMA 095 / MAS BOLIVIA OMA 007

Thanks for posting

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I Made Okte Panca Fandinda (He/Him) • 3rd+ 10mo

Electric Vehicles Technician. Maintenance, Repair & Overhaul. DGCA Licensed
A1, A3 & A4 Holder. Electrical Engineer | Aircraft Engineer | Mechanical Engineer

Nice explanation! 👍
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HAFIS KABEER • 2nd 10mo

Licensed AMT -Avionics,EASA/UKCAA B2 Endorsed on A320, A330, B737 Fleets.

Informative 👍
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