Investing Fundamentals Part II - Winter 2025
Investing Fundamentals Part II - Winter 2025
Fundamentals II
1. Stocks vs. Bonds
2. Do Dividends Matter?
TODAY’ 3. Asset Classes
S 4. Value vs. Growth
GOALS 5. Market History
6. Gold
A stock is a share in the
ownership of a company.
What Stock represents a claim on
the company's assets and
is a earnings. As you acquire
more stock, your ownership
Stock stake in the company
? becomes greater.
Whether you say shares,
equity, or stock, it all means
the same thing.
Holding a company's stock means
that you are one of the many
owners (shareholders) of a
What company and, as such, you have a
is a claim (albeit usually very small) to
everything the company owns. Yes,
Stock this means that technically you
own a tiny sliver of every piece of
? furniture, every trademark, and
every contract of the company. As
an owner, you are entitled to your
share of the company's earnings as
well as any voting rights attached
A “public company” is a company
whose stock is sold on a public
market like the Toronto Stock
What Exchange or the New York Stock
is a Exchange. You can own stock in
“private” companies too, but they
Stock are a lot more difficult to buy and
sell.
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A given company will have a particular
number of shares outstanding on any
given day. They can increase this
number by selling new shares or
What decrease this number by buying them
back from the public on the stock
is a exchange.
Stock 15,020,000,000
shares outstanding
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3,220,000,000
shares outstanding
The price of a share of
What stock will go up and down
everyday. The price is
is a influenced by “supply and
Stock demand”.
? If more people want to
buy the stock, the price
goes up.
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If more people are trying
to sell the price goes
Making $$$ With
Stocks
As an investor you purchase stocks
with a goal to make money in two
different ways:
1. Hope the price will go up over
time so you can sell it for a
profit in the future (i.e. realize a
8 “capital gain”).
2. Possibly receive a “dividend”.
Company Value &
Stock Price
• If a company’s income grows,
the company is more valuable
so the stock price goes up!
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What is a
▫ ADividend?
“dividend” is a distribution of a
portion of the company’s profits.
▫ A dividend is usually received in
the form of cash, but can be given is
the form of extra stock.
▫ Companies have no obligation to
pay a dividend.
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Do You Want To Invest in Companies That
Pay Dividends?
• When a company pays a dividend, the “wealth” of the
company has decreased by the amount of cash it has
distributed.
• Imagine a company takes $5,000,000 out of its bank account
and distributes it to the shareholders, the business must now
be worth $5,000,000 less.
• And now that the business is worth less, price of each share
must go down accordingly!
One Share of
One Share of Stock Worth $19
Stock Worth
+
$20
$1 in Your Pocket
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Some investors don’t want Some investors REALLY
dividends as they prefer that like dividends because they
the company keeps the cash to want the cash so that they
grow the business. can choose what to do with
it. The investor might think
the business doesn’t have
any viable growth
opportunities.
If you have invested in a GREAT
company, wouldn’t you want THEM to
keep the money and make the business
“Should” even better? If they do that it would
make the stock price go up!
you want
New companies, or companies with lots
a of growth potential likely won’t pay
dividends as they need to keep their
company cash.
to pay Older/established companies with less
growth potential likely will pay
dividends dividends, as will companies that want
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Let’s look at an example:
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ks/xnys/brk.a/chart
you want
a Now ask yourself, would the value
of Berkshire Hathaway’s stock be
company “HIGHER” if they had continued
paid out millions of dollars in cash
to pay dividends?
dividends If you think “YES”…..ask yourself
25 “HOW” that is possible?
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Which Companies Pay Dividends
Often?
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Which Companies Don’t Often Pay
Dividends?
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1. They DON’T have a better
internal use for the cash
Companies themselves. i.e. they have no
quality growth opportunities.
Therefore
Pay 2. To change their capital
structure and thus lower their
Dividends WACC by distributing retained
Because earnings and raising cash with
debt (when prudent to do so).
$0.96/$79.39 = 1.21%
(or 4.84% per year…which is
almost identical to the yield when
35 you bought it)
This MUST be true because if you
sold your share, collected $79.39,
then took the cash and bought back
your share the very next minute at
the same price, you would now
agree you’ve “invested”
$79.39….right?
So now you would HAVE to agree
that your dividend yield is:
$0.96/$79.39 = 1.21%
https://www.morningstar.ca/ca/report/stocks/quote.aspx?t=0P00006899
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So please don’t fall for the myth
that your return is growing based
on the original price you paid.
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You should be able to set up your
brokerage account to automatically
reinvest dividends back into the
Should you SAME investment the dividend
“DRIP”? came from.
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Be a lender and make a
small amount of interest?
(bonds)
OR
Be an owner and
participate in the profits
and growth of the
48 company? (stocks)
Most people think bonds are
“safe” and “low risk”.
Interes It is true that bond prices
t Rates move up and down less than
stocks.
and But bonds prices do fluctuate
Bond when market interest rates
change.
Prices And oh boy….have they
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changed!
It IS true that bond prices
fluctuate less than stocks…
Interes but they still fluctuate.
t Rates Bond prices fluctuate for the
same reason stocks do –
and supply and demand.
Bond Demand changes because
interest rates in the market
Prices change.
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Interes
t Rates
and
Bond
Prices
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Interes
t Rates
and
Bond
Prices
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Let say you buy a bond today
Interest from Bell Canada for $1,000.
Rates Bell Canada promises to pay
you 5% interest per year for 10
and years and then you get your
$1,000 back.
Bond
Prices – You will get $50 of interest per
year.
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exampl That is your “reward” for
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Now assume that the interest
Interest rate investors want on a bond
Rates like yours (similar risk, maturity
date, etc.) goes up to 6%.
and
Your bond only pays 5%
Bond interest.
Prices –
Now imagine you need to sell
an you bond because you can’t
exampl wait 10 years to get your
money back.
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Will someone want to pay you
$1,000 for a bond that pays 5%
interest when they could buy a
different bond (of similar
Ask features) that pays 6%?
Yourself Of course not!!!!
“AGG” - “VTI” –
iShares Vanguard
Core U.S. Total U.S.
Aggregate Stock
Bond ETF Market
ETF
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Let’s Look at Real World Example
“AGG” - “VTI” –
iShares Vanguard
Core U.S. Total U.S.
Aggregate Stock
Bond ETF https://calculators. Market
atb.com/atb/jsp/Ear
lyInvesting/EarlyIn ETF
2.31% vesting1_run.jsp
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Should
YOU Have
Bonds in 1. The long-term rate of return
Your on bonds is less than the
Portfolio? stock market.
2. Since you will NOT get off
the rollercoaster….why do
you need them before
retirement?
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Should • There is ONE “possible”
YOU Have justification for buying
Bonds in bonds that you may come
Your across.
Portfolio? • Let me show you it and
then we can discuss.
• The problem with this
idea is that we can’t know
if it will work well over the
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long term. Only time will
tell.
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What is an Asset Class?
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BC/performance?p=DBC
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You can also invest in all kinds
of real estate other than your
house and/or rental properties.
Real Estate
There are ways you can invest
in industrial real estate,
apartment buildings, storage
units, warehouses, nursing
homes, etc.
Be careful not to invest “too”
heavily in this asset class as you
probably already have a
86 significant portion of your net
worth tied up in your house
When it comes to bonds you
can invest in many different
types.
Bonds
You can read more about
them in your textbook, or
you do your own research.
I’m not going to spend any
class time on them as I
REALLY don’t want to
encourage young people to
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include them in your
portfolio!
Corporate vs.
Government
Types of
Short vs. Medium vs.
Bonds
Long Term
Fixed Rate vs. Floating
Rate
High Yield vs. Low Risk
Convertible vs.
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Conventional
Now when it comes to
“stocks” there are
Stocks different classes that we
do need to learn more
about.
Don’t feel overwhelmed
by this. It is easy enough
to learn.
I like to think of stocks in
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3 major classifications.
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Think y
About
Investin
Growth
g in Size
vs. Value
Stocks
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North America International Emerging
Markets
▫ Canada ▫ Japan
Geograph ▫ United States ▫ United ▫ Taiwan
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▫ France ▫ South Africa
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- divide your
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into these
Ap
three (four)
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Growth
vs.
Value
A growth stock is A value stock is
any share in a a stock with a price that
- divide company that is appears low relative to
anticipated to the company's financial
your grow at a rate performance, as measured
portfolio significantly
above the
by such fundamentals as
the company's revenue,
into average growth dividends, yield, earnings
for the market. and profit margins.
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Growth
vs.
Value
You will pay the You will (hopefully) pay
full “fair” price for below the “fair” price for
- divide this stock and this stock and hope to
your hope to profit by
the future
profit when the stock
price recovers to its “fair
portfolio growth in the value”.
stock’s price.
into
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RULES of THUMB
(Historically)
1. Over a long period of time
small company stocks have
outperformed (grown faster)
than large company stocks.
“Small is better than large”
2. Over a long period of time
value stocks have
outperformed (achieved a
10 higher return) than growth
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stocks.
The Rules are Changing?
1. Fama’s research became so
famous, and turned out to
be so correct, that a large
portion of the market started
buying “small” and “value”.
2. Once that started
happening the “premium”
an investor could get has
been shrinking.
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Is the 3 Factor Model
Dead?
• It is too soon to say if the
expected premium on both
value and growth are
shrinking? Disappearing? Or
staying in place.
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Real Estate Investment
Trusts
It is tricky to find the long
term rate of return for real
estate because we need
know what kind of real estate
we are talking about…and in
what country.
“Generally” speaking the
stats I’ve seen show you
could historically expect to
get between 9% and 11%
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broad-based real estate
From one year to the
next some investments
will go up and others
will go down.
Sometimes WAY up and
WAY down!
Let’s see what’s
happened over the last
15 years.
https://novelinvestor.com/asset-class-returns/
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The reason I think we
should have all of these in
our portfolio:
U.S./Canada/Int’l/
Emerging Markets
Small, Mid and Large
Cap
Value & Growth
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Is so we can gain benefits
from “rebalancing”.
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Let’s do an example:
Assume that on January 1,
2006 we invest $1,000 in
each of the following:
REITS, Int’l, Emerging
Markets, U.S. Large
Cap, and U.S. Small
Cap.
Remember that each
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Scenario #1:
Under Scenario #1 we will
not buy or sell any of the
investments to
“rebalance”.
We will simply let each
asset class grow/shrink
each year until the end of
2020.
12 Let’s see the ending
7 balances.
Scenario #1 – Without
Rebalancing
Asset Class Starting Total Ending
Balance Return Balance
Totals
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Scenario #2:
Under Scenario #2 we will
sell the asset classes that
went up in value and buy
the ones that went down in
value.
This will rebalance so each
asset class represents 20%
of the total portfolio at the
start of each year.
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Scenario #1 – With
Rebalancing
Asset Class Starting Total Ending
Balance Return Balance
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ns-1928-2021-C.pdf
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Expected Returns
A lot of (older people) think I’m
crazy to tell students about
10% returns.
“They” may not have realized
returns that high in their life.
Why? Let’s see….
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Asset Historic Realized
Weight Class Return Return
Total 8.6%
Fees (2.0%)
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My Personal Approach
In my own portfolio I’ll be “ok” if
I earn a long term rate of only
6%.
I’ll be happy if I get 8%.
I’ll be thrilled if I get 10% or
more!
I’ll show my actual numbers in a
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coming class.
My Personal Approach