Talk:Sridevi

Sridevi

Please dont change the introduction Ramcharan98 (talk) 08:17, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

That you should follow. Don't change the introduction which was better. Msclrfl22 (talk) 08:31, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

"Last Empress"

She is the "Last Empress" of Indian cinema. https://www.mygoodtimes.in/entertainment/candid-confessions-with-puja-talwar/sridevi-tribute/ http://swapnilsansar.org/2016/08/sridevi-the-last-empress-of-bollywood/

https://www.news18.com/news/movies/happy-birthday-sridevi-10-performances-that-make-her-the-last-empress-of-indian-cinema-1038973.html https://bollybrit.com/features/sridevi-the-last-empress-tribute

SANKURDAS (talk) 05:48, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, it's not properly sourced. We need strong sources to prove it. Shahid • ^Talk2me 11:00, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

News 18 is a branch of CNN-IBN which is a national organisation. SANKURDAS (talk) 11:01, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Tell me , what is that kind to match your reliable source criteria ? SANKURDAS (talk) 11:05, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@SANKURDAS: That's right - it is an acceptable source for basic news and reviews, but for such a tall claim like this one, that she is often called Empress of Indian cinema, there must be a critical mass of reliable sources that support this claim. For the criteria, please see WP:RS. Shahid • ^Talk2me 11:06, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

🤣, now the matter for reliable source has gone . It's the time for critical mass .... I have that proof too..

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xz6zcm

Watch it SANKURDAS (talk) 11:08, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

i will not be amazed if you don't comment anymore. SANKURDAS (talk) 11:10, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@SANKURDAS: It's an award. Write that she's won it in the awards section. It is not a source proving she is often called that. Shahid • ^Talk2me 14:04, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

I wanna ask you humbly , what kind of source do you want ? SANKURDAS (talk) 14:06, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@SANKURDAS: Exceptional claims require exceptional sources, such as books, high-rank and even scholarly journals, not random websites. Other than that - if you ask me, this addition just takes away from the credibility of the article. As is, it is quite clear she was a huge star. I don't understand why you insist so much on this gratitious addition. Shahid • ^Talk2me 14:08, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

I already shared NEWS -18 's link which is belonging from that kind of high rank and if you ask for books then I will provide that also . But tell me how can I share a picture from a book ?

As you said huge star , then it's indeed that in case of huge star nothing is gratitious.

And one more thing which i specified before several times , LOOK UPON THAT FUNERAL SECTION'S matter , THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF MOURNERS not fourth-highest .

I often become speechless seeing these kind of stoopid matters like if you google for LARGEST FUNERALS then this very WIKIPEDIA will provide you the list including SRIDEVI there not any MD. RAFI , RAJESH KHANNA or KISHORE KUMAR but here they are included before SRIDEVI. Just amazing.... SANKURDAS (talk) 14:24, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@SANKURDAS: I disagree with your observation about News-18. It's reliable for certain claims, but not high rank in the slightest. "First Female Superstar" is more than sufficient to convey her nationwide stardom. More is less, in my opinion. Everything else you said, if supported by sources, can be added into the other sections in a fair and objective manner. "Last Empress"? I can't find it in any reputable sources, nor do I think it's needed. Shahid • ^Talk2me 14:51, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Again i didn't get FUNERAL SECTION'S answer SANKURDAS (talk) 14:53, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@SANKURDAS: You did (I said "Everything else you said, if supported by sources, can be added into the other sections in a fair and objective manner"). Please provide evidence for that claim in the other section below, and if the other users agree, it can be added. It's got nothing to do with your empress addition though. Please do not mix up the the two issues, it's getting confusing for me as well. Shahid • ^Talk2me 14:56, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

For that FUNERAL issue the link of source which is attached there already conveyed that IT HAD ATTRACTED HIGHEST NUMBER OF MOURNERS . I will request you again to read that . SANKURDAS (talk) 14:59, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@SANKURDAS: This section discusses "Last Empress". The other issue is being discussed in the section below - keep it there. Shahid • ^Talk2me 15:02, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

You should put your opinion right there after reviewing this matter SANKURDAS (talk) 15:03, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@SANKURDAS: I see you have received replies from other users on this matter. Keep it there. Shahid • ^Talk2me 15:07, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Why don't you reply about it right there ? SANKURDAS (talk) 15:08, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@SANKURDAS: Others have replied. I've entered the link, and see no evidence for your claim, but I have no time to handle everything. Shahid • ^Talk2me 17:16, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

What !?

The Magazine cover !

Sridevi: The Eternal Screen Goddess ...

Nowhere you find any evidence saying Last Empress ... Are you sure ? SANKURDAS (talk) 17:19, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@SANKURDAS: "The Eternal Screen Goddess" is not "Last Empress" and anyway, both are journalistic variations of the same claim that she was a huge star. You need to provide a ref showing that she is often or commonly referred to as either of those, in order for this claim to become part of this article's introduction. Shahid • ^Talk2me 17:22, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Sridevi : The Eternal Screen Goddess is a book written by Satyarth Nayak ... You asked me a source like book that's why I gave it .

The another one is a L'Officiel magazine's cover photo . 🙂 SANKURDAS (talk) 17:27, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@SANKURDAS: They don't support "Last Empress" though. Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:29, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

i didn't understand . SANKURDAS (talk) 18:31, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@SANKURDAS: Find sources for "Last Empress". "Screen Goddess" is not that; as for L'Officiel's cover - so? So one magazine called her "Last Empress". Where is the source that says that she is commonly referred to by that? Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:36, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

https://asridevi.blogspot.com/2015/12/lofficiel.html?m=1

What is your opinion about it ? SANKURDAS (talk) 17:03, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

You asked for a source like books

https://books.google.co.in/books/about/Sridevi.html?id=_qjDDwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&gboemv=1&ovdme=1&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

Here it's that link

You can find my answer in the CONTENT page . SANKURDAS (talk) 17:09, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@SANKURDAS: None of it supports the claim that she is commonly referred to as "Last Empress". Shahid • ^Talk2me 17:17, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Funeral

[1]https://www.hindustantimes.com/mumbai-news/sridevi-s-funeral-police-baffled-as-fans-throng-in-large-numbers/story-Gc42ufbwgZzoKuNb4fk4eP.html In this attachment we can vividly observe that it had attracted highest number of mourners still this page shows fourth highest. SANKURDAS (talk) 13:08, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

So? — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 17:21, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

so why this wiki page is showing that's fourth-highest ? SANKURDAS (talk) 17:23, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

The reference at the end of that sentence verifies it; that's why, I presume, it's written that it's estimated to be fourth-highest — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 17:46, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Read it again. It said IN TERMS OF SHEER NUMBERS , SRIDEVI'S FUNERAL IS ESTIMATED TO HAVE ATTRACTED HIGHEST NUMBER OF MOURNERS.Probably you had a misconception. SANKURDAS (talk) 17:56, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

@SANKURDAS: Please do not add / modify content when a discussion is going on. See WP:BRD and WP:CONSENSUS. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:58, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Lead section mentions 44 film appearances

Anyone with knowledge about this topic feel like taking a shot at trimming it down to, say, a dozen or so? Folly Mox (talk) 21:30, 5 July 2023 (UTC)