Talk:Zoo Records

Lori & the Chameleons

Lori & the Chameleons redirects to this page, but there is no mention of them at all. Perhaps a new page could be made about the band? Korinkami 09:50, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

If you know about them by all means please go ahead (or add it to the requested articles page?). Unfortunately I don't know enough about them to make even a stub. WP:KLF is a bit off track at the moment as one of our lead editors disappeared. --kingboyk 10:25, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

This seems out of place to have a separate entry on a band, on a label page. Shouldn't the Lori & The Chameleons section have its own page?

They have been decreed to be Not Notable and so must never appear on Wikipedia. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:51, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

OK, then wouldn't it make more sense to redirect them to Big in Japan? A minor not notable band has more connection to its members more famous band, than to a label it was on. I just think it looks odd and unsuitable to have a specific band redirect to a record label page; it's not like the label was specifically Lori & The Chameleons' label.Greg Fasolino (talk) 13:56, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

I'd go with a whole article on them. Just don't be surprised though if someone (very probably a country music fan with a million edits) WP:CSD#G4s it on the basis of "just not notable". Most of the UK's off-the-chart music was deleted in 2008, this was just one of many. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:59, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, and that is a shame. Not sure how it enhances knowledge at all to enforce that policy with regards to artists of historical interest (i.e., obviously the musicians in this band had some significant impact on music history even if this particular band itelf did not).Greg Fasolino (talk) 16:36, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

It's about visibility and WP:V. If it's on Billboard's website, it's "real". If it happened before the web, it "didn't". UK industrial music went a while back (Wasp Factory Records and most of the bands signed to them) as did the UK pirate radio stations that broadcast these 1980 Scouse bands. Oddly Deaf School's coverage seems to get bigger and bigger. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:49, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Reopening discussion on this. It is non-Wiki standard, non-encyclopedic and simply bad organization to have a band article randomly stuck on a label page. No other pages are done like this. The label and band are not synonymous, nor were they the label's only or even predominant band. It's entirely random here. Either make Lori & Chams its own article, or add it to the Big in Japan page, at least that would make some sense. Greg Fasolino (talk) 13:39, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

@Greg Fasolino: I agree it might make more sense for the L&C section to be in the Big in Japan page as a successor to that band. {{sofixit}}?

I also agree it's hard to get the sources for articles about pre-web bands who were significant but not hugely famous, and that Wikipedia will not be the great encyclopedia of popular music I hoped it would. A big pile of old NMEs/Melody Makers/newspapers would go a long way... we were very lucky when we did The KLF articles that somebody had already transcribed many of the articles about them and put them onto the web... Now don't get me started on all the album and singles covers being deleted from discographies! :/ --kingboyk (talk) 03:10, 13 February 2020 (UTC)