Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bernie Pershey (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. I'm a little conflicted by this. On the one hand, there appears to be a hint of a delete consensus here, but on the other hand, the two previous admins who touched this saw fit to relist, and the only thing that's happened since then is an argument to keep, so I'm just going to call this NC. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:39, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Bernie Pershey

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I sent the article for the drummer to AFD two years ago, there was no consensus based on him being part of two bands. I think enough time has passed to review this. The problem is that the bands are likely not notable either, so to simplify, I'm putting all in one AFD. In short, there isn't enough significant coverage in reliable sources to demonstrate notability. A few mentions, but all four of these depend on each other for notability, which kind of violates our idea that notability isn't inherited. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 15:03, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

• Other articles included in this AFD:
• White Lightning (band) - Not notable band. They do have two mentions, one in a paper, one in Billboard Magazine, but these don't fulfill the requirements of WP:SIGCOV, thus they fail WP:GNG.

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• Suggest dropping Trilogy (band) (and their album) from this afd and starting a new one for them. That Trilogy seems unrelated to Pershey's Trilogy. They should be judged separately. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:42, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
• Redirect to Bernie Pershey to White Lightning (band). The second band does not appear notable. No comment (yet) on White Lightning but Persheys claim to notability that he was part of two notable bands is fundamentally flawed. There is no indication of notability for his second band, Trilogy. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:51, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

  I would have redirected instead of AFD if I had any indication that the band was notable, but they (like most of the era) didn't catch on. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 21:03, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

• Comment I did remove the two, per suggestion, as they do appear unrelated. They do seem to need their own AFD but it should be separate. Regardless, both of the two remaining articles still fail notability. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 15:28, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 20:52, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jenks24 (talk) 14:19, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep White Lightning, delete Bernie Pershey. I admit I'm giving somewhat of a benefit of the doubt to a 60s-era regional act whose reliable sources aren't going to be as easy to find as those on, say, Katy Perry. They do seem to pass WP:BAND as having had two major album releases. Bernie Pershey appears to be mostly a touring musician and while that's great work and I bet he has some awesome stories such musicians tend not to have the substantial coverage by reliable sources for a BLP article. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 19:20, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

The problem is that White Lightning was a less popular spin off band from The Litter, which has its own notability concerns. Maybe that will help find sources, but I'm not hopeful. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 01:47, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

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