Wikipedia:Featured article review/Order of St Patrick/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was delisted by Nikkimaria via FACBot (talk) 1:23, 15 May 2021 (UTC) [1].
- Notified: Lord Emsworth, Dr pda, Yomangani, Judgesurreal777, WikiProject England, WikiProject Orders, decorations, and medals, WikiProject Numismatics, WikiProject Ireland, 2021-03-31
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editI am nominating this featured article for review because there are uncited statements in the article, there are too many images that need to be trimmed and the references contain unformatted links (ref 16) and original research (ref 5). Note: there was an FAR conducted in 2006 under a previous name, which can be found at Wikipedia:Featured article review/Order of St. Patrick/archive1. Z1720 (talk) 20:00, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I have cleaned up the images. If someone can access https://www.jstor.org/stable/30100982?seq=1 through Jstor, this one could be salvageable. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:57, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @SandyGeorgia: You can read 100 articles on JSTOR for free every month if you create an account. I highly recommend it. Chances are this is not the last time you'll need to read one for Wikipedia.
- I formatted ref 16.
- I replaced Flags of the World with the source from JSTOR.
- The same source might also work for ref 5, but I don't know enough about the topic to be sure. The source says the Duke of Leinster was a founding knight and, given the time span, it must have been the 2nd Duke. The source also says that the saltire in the Union Jack is probably not a genuine symbol of Ireland but "the armorial device of the Fitzgeralds – arbitrary elevated via the Knights of St. Patrick – to the position of a national banner." The surname of the Dukes of Leinster was FitzGerald. The source notes (p. 6) that Gerald Fitzgerald probably used these arms as a flag. Given the time span this would have been Gerald FitzGerald, 8th Earl of Kildare (see also the said arms in that article), so that seems to check out. Does this work for you? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:48, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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edit- Sourcing. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:44, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I have access to the JSTOR article linked above. However, there were concerns posted on the article's talk page that we need Galloway's book to bring this back to FA standards. I can't access the book through my local library system because of COVID restrictions. Does anyone have access to this book? Z1720 (talk) 14:44, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment there is HUGE work to be done here, that access to a single book/journal will not resolve.
- Multipe unfreferenced sections, only some of which are tagged
- Short stubby paragraph
- Inconsistent quality of writing, which is very weak and disjointed mostly
- A lead that does not sum up the body
- I'm not seeing much work here so sadly moving towards delist. Ceoil (talk) 02:44, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist - sizable sourcing issues outstanding, minimal engagement. Hog Farm Talk 18:07, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist due to Ceoil's concerns outlined above. Z1720 (talk) 14:21, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This removal candidate has been delisted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please leave the {{featured article review}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:23, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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