Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 10
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 10, 2024.
Gerecter
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:46, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Does not appear to be relevant to the target. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:35, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
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Thrustship
editRelisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Thrustship
R&B
editRelisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 18#R&B
Criticism of Donald Trump
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- The result of the discussion was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 04:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Criticism of Donald Trump → Public image of Donald Trump (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Retarget to Cat:Criticism of Donald Trump as {{R to category namespace}}. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 16:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - we already have a mainspace article on the topic, we shouldn't retarget to a category - users won't expect this. As an aside, looking at other {{R to category namespace}} usages it seems to be full questionable redirects, like Political book BugGhost🦗👻 09:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I agree with BugGhost that an XNR isn't useful here. But the target article doesn't really discuss criticism of Trump expect in passing. This seems like something we could plausibly create a broad concept article for, so I think a red link is preferable here. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:21, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- keep or retarget to Category:Criticism of Donald Trump or to Donald Trump. The word criticism is mentioned multiple times there, though a specific section doesn't exist for it. The redirect should exist, in some way. --MikutoH talk! 03:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete, this is a new meaning, not mere synonym too when compared to "public image". Iljhgtn (talk) 00:36, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Category:Criticism of Donald Trump or to Donald Trump – Hate to see it delete just because the current target hardly mentions criticism. Either proposed target is better than deletion, IMO, but I would prefer the category as the target, especially for easier use and surfing. George Ho (talk) 02:24, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Final relist. Delete, keep, or retarget?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 22:28, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. I agree with the sentiment that "criticism" and "public image" are well divorced from being synonyms. However, the first sentence of the current target makes it clear that the public image article is criticism-focussed. Moreover, Criticism of Barack Obama and Criticism of George Bush also lead to the respective public image articles, and Criticism of Franklin D. Roosevelt is included in Category:Public image of American politicians. This status quo is imperfect, but not without basis in my opinion. J947 ‡ edits 23:25, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep the current target is a logical location to redirect to, and redirecting from main to category space doesn't seem ideal. RachelTensions (talk) 03:06, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
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Recent
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- The result of the discussion was No consensus Sorry, this is just all over the map. There's four proposed outcomes here, and no one outcome has commanded any clear agreement. And there's enough support for the status quo to no force a bartender's close. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:31, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
There is no evidence that a primary topic has been specified. Kolano123 (talk) 17:33, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep All of the incoming links appear to be using "Recent" in its geological definition (i.e., as a synonym for Holocene). I do think there is a point to be made about the geological definition not being the "primary topic," so to speak. But I'm hesitant to delete since the "primary" definition isn't getting wikilinked at the moment. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:09, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Appears to be used for convenience in a narrow set of articles. Thsi redirect is unlikely to cause the confusion (as we are unlikely to have an article about the word itself, which would be the primary meaning). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Викидим (talk • contribs) 22:00, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Lean delete, although I'm not unsympathetic to the cleanup that would require. Maybe someone could use AWB or a bot to automate the process, but I don't know if that's more trouble than it's worth. This seems to be used in a bunch of taxoboxes in a technical sense, but far more often, it's done better, with "Recent" as a piped link to Holocene instead of relying on the redirect (see e.g. Giraffe). I don't think it's appropriate to carve out a redirect for a technical sense of an everyday word to use like this. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 23:15, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- soft redirect to wikt:recent, where the holocene period is ironically not directly mentioned. would it be per nom?
- and yeah, maybe use the good ol' pipe links. there's surprisingly not that many incoming links in mainspace, so it'd be easy to deal with cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:17, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Let the search function do its job. Redirecting to Wiktionary would be both unhelpful and somewhat patronizing. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:53, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia, not a dictionary. Readers do not want to get sent to a dictionary entry about the vague concept of newness. If a reader is searching the term "recent", they are looking for an encyclopedic entry on geology. Ca talk to me! 03:24, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- "If a reader is searching the term "recent", they are looking for an encyclopedic entry on geology." That seems like a stretch to me. The only way that would make sense was if the person that went to this redirect got there from a forum post about geology. Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 05:09, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- What other encyclopedic topic could the term "recent" refer to? Ca talk to me! 10:33, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- none that wouldn't stop being recent at some point, and that's the problem cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:19, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- In the event that the reader is looking for the use of "recent" in other fields, I would also support an unorthodox hatnote to the wiktionary entry. Ca talk to me! 14:23, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
What other encyclopedic topic could the term "recent" refer to?
. Maybe recency effect, recency bias, or recentism. We shouldn't be guessing, and even a dab page for something this vague is iffy. But the status quo isn't there for readers; it's a technical redirect used poorly in some taxoboxes, and it shouldn't remain like that. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 22:53, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- What other encyclopedic topic could the term "recent" refer to? Ca talk to me! 10:33, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- "If a reader is searching the term "recent", they are looking for an encyclopedic entry on geology." That seems like a stretch to me. The only way that would make sense was if the person that went to this redirect got there from a forum post about geology. Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 05:09, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ and IP. This common word shouldn't have primary usage in Geology. Jay 💬 08:31, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep on the grounds that Presidentman and Викидим point out. Since it's unlikely there will ever be much call for an encyclopedic article about the word "recent" itself (as Wikipedia isn't a dictionary), we don't seem to be primed to have competition for this target. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 11:47, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate. I believe a casual searcher would be surprised to be redirected to the Holocene and would be better satisfied by an article of "things that happened recently". Contemporary history would fit that usage best in my opinion. The second entry would be to the Holocene to satisfy the geologic usage. Employ a {{Wiktionary}} box per Cogsan and include see also entries for the things that 35.139.154.158 lists in response to Ca. -- Tavix (talk) 00:01, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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Amateur home page
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 22:33, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Amateur Home Page → Home page (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Amatuer home page → home page (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The actions you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for those actions.
Target contains no information about "Amateur" home pages specifically. Ca talk to me! 01:25, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: there's no material about this. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:07, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete This redirect just reads like someone complaining about either our home page (which is like that for simplicity's sake) or someone else's home page (which we have no control over). Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 05:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- •Delete fail to see relevance of redirect. VolatileAnomaly (talk) 01:44, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also bundle Amateur home page created by the same author who created the uppercase version, and a few minutes prior. Both stubs were promptly converted to redirects. Jay 💬 09:00, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Bundled with Amateur home page, and tagged the third redirect (Amatuer home page), which wasn't tagged by the nom.
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- Delete all per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:28, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete No evidence that the redirect is plausible. KOLANO12 3 21:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- delete per all above. pretty funny that the last one has a lowercase redirect. i was sure the system would just ignore that. the co- uh, gears, of my head are beginning to turn... cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 01:25, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
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Mian Page
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Haifan Baháʼí Faith
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 22:34, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Haifan Baháʼí Faith → Baháʼí Faith (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
again, obscure, and where used, it is perjorative. Smkolins (talk) 21:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete due to wp:Wikipedia_is_not_a_dictionary#Wikipedia_does_not_document_the_usage_of_neologisms.
- Delete this is an obscure term, unlikely to be useful, that does not show up in reliable sources, and should not be used as a redirect as it wouldn't meet NPOV. — penultimate_supper 🚀 (talk • contribs) 22:30, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Lean delete because this appears to be an attempt to create or promote a neologism. The phrase is simply not used outside of an extremely small company of people trying to attack the Baha'i Faith. If including the redirect would help promote the phrase in search engines and such, then delete. If that is not a consideration, then it doesn't matter. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 23:25, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Haifan Baháʼís
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 22:34, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Haifan Baháʼís → Baháʼí Faith (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
obscure and where used, a pejorative use Smkolins (talk) 21:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete due to wp:Wikipedia_is_not_a_dictionary#Wikipedia_does_not_document_the_usage_of_neologisms.
- Delete this is an obscure term, unlikely to be useful, that does not show up in reliable sources, and should not be used as a redirect as it wouldn't meet NPOV. — penultimate_supper 🚀 (talk • contribs) 22:30, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Lean delete, same comment as similar nomination. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 23:27, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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DEVS VVLT
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- The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 20:47, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
I think this a rather implossable misspelling of this term. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 20:33, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Several hits for this on Google in both all-caps and mixed-case versions. It's a reference to Latin, which traditionally used the letter V in place of the letter U. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:10, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Presidentman. Not implausible that this spelling was seen by a reader in a book or in a photograph of an inscription. Cremastra ‹ u — c › 00:51, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, Googled and found a historic inscription on a house, and uses in bookplates, among others. Deliberately archaic, but certainly could be encountered by readers who may not know how it is typically spelled. P Aculeius (talk) 13:38, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep it is not a misspelling, it is the actual correct proper spelling. In Roman Latin, there is no lowercase form, and there is no character "U" in the Roman alphabet. Thus the properly spelled out term is as the redirect shows. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 15:08, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Delete I doubt anyone is typing in "DEVS VVLT" into the Wikipedia search bar, and if they're doing it in Google they're going to see the right result anyways. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 16:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC)nevermind, withdraw vote ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 16:28, 11 December 2024 (UTC)- Keep. I doubt this is being used all that much as a search term, but it's unambiguous and it's not a misspelling; there are possible scenarios where this could be useful enough that I don't see the point of deleting this here. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 11:37, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
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Ayurveda/Non-confirmed editor comments
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- The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per G7. SilverLocust 💬 19:03, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ayurveda/Non-confirmed editor comments → Ayurveda (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Should this redirect to mainspace article exist? I have not seen this anywhere on the mainspace. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 16:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete WP:SUBPAGE/WP:SLASH and it's not an appropriate title, since it implies comments should be added into the article instead of the talk page. Also the creation comment makes no sense. We don't add redirects from Ayurveda/Archive 1 etc to fill in redlinks -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 17:08, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: I created this redirect and now realize that that was a mistake. Kill it. --Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 17:27, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Goth (Silverwing)
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Nueva Hampshire
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 14:22, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nueva Hampshire → New Hampshire (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Dakota del Norte → North Dakota (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Seems to be a fail of WP:RLANG, but I am not too confident. Weak Delete? -1ctinus📝🗨 23:03, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Half of the current U.S., including Dakotas, at some point were part of Spanish colonization of the Americas before Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. And given that USA doesn't have an official language and Spanish is the second most spoken, both redirects are justified. Web-julio (talk) 09:27, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete NH, keep ND as I don't see any strong ties between NH and Spanish languages. The area now in NH was not part of the Spanish colonization of the Americas so far as I can see, and only around 3% of the people in these states speak Spanish according to NH. However, ND was part of the Spanish colonization, and so has a tie to Spanish language. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:59, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete both Neither meets WP:RLANG in my opinion. I'm unconviced by the mere fact that many people in the U.S. speak Spanish to justify keeping here. (Many people in the U.S. also speak French, for example, but neither Nouveau Hampshire nor Dakota du Nord exist). In regards to North Dakota's supposed affinity to Spanish, that's spurious at best. There was never a place known as "Dakota del Norte" under Spanish rule, which in this case would have been limited to the brief era of Spanish Louisiana. (Assuming you count claiming Indigenous land as "ruling" it). No sustained European settlement occurred in the region until well after the U.S. acquired the territory. Even then, Dakota Territory was one entity until 1889. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:22, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete both per Presidentman. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:36, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
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Musha-gaeshi
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- The result of the discussion was no consensus. Minimal participation despite two relists. Retargeting to Japanese castle#Azuchi–Momoyama period as a suggested target. Jay 💬 13:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Musha-gaeshi → Castle#Construction (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
curved walls, built to be "a little hard to climb". unmentioned in the target and wiktionary, though it does have some mentions in articles related to japanese castles cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:08, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Retarget to Japanese castle#Azuchi–Momoyama period where mentioned. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 02:23, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
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Save battery
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 09:32, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Save battery → ROM cartridge (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
i know what this means... but the article doesn't mention it in detail (only in passing as an image's caption), or anything to clarify that it doesn't mean methods of saving battery energy. not directly mentioned at volatile memory either cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:08, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete not about NVRAM backup battery, or CMOS clock backup battery, or battery saver apps, etc -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 20:52, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - It has a mention here (even if only in an image caption) and it has the potential to be discussed here in much more detail. I don't think CMOS clock backup batteries have ever been called "save" batteries, that should be pretty restricted to the domain of "saving your game" if I'm not mistaken. Theoretically, this could be searched for with the intent of finding methods of preserving battery life, but I think written this way (as opposed to the next RfD entry, below) it is much more clear that it refers to using a battery to enable saving your game in a ROM cartridge. Fieari (talk) 06:45, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. What it's ultimately getting at is more general than game cartridges. Any device with battery-backed volatile RAM would be covered by this, not just game carts. And even then, "save battery" is kind of vague and could refer to other things anyway. And as per nom, there's no significant discussion at the target anyway. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 22:56, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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polypifer
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Ra'ad 1
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Raad#Military. After ~3 months of discussion and multiple relists debating the intention of the title, the disambiguation page lets readers gander towards the target they'd like to go. (non-admin closure) Utopes (talk / cont) 17:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ra'ad 1 → RAAD (anti-tank guided missile) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The more I research this redirect, the more confused I get. For starters, this redirect formerly targeted the article that is currently at Fajr-3 (artillery rocket), and did for the past six years. However, before that, this redirect targeted the article which it currently targets. However, to throw some more confusion into the mix, another similarly-titled article, Raad-1, exists. I may have figured out a better plan for what to do with this redirect by now if it were not for its incoming links; I am not clear what subject these links are meant to refer to. I'm thinking disambiguate is the way to go here, but I'm incredibly unclear what the base title should be for such a disambiguation page. Steel1943 (talk) 00:41, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment both RAAD (anti-tank guided missile) and Raad-1 say they mean Thunder and Thunder-1. ; while Fajr-3 (artillery rocket) seems to mean Aurora-3 or Dawn-3 ? -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:09, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Notified of this discussion at Raad-1.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 16:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TeapotsOfDoom (talk) 22:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)Since this discussion isn't really getting any comments, I might as well throw my two cents in and say weak delete. Raad already exists as a disambiguation and there really isn't any suitable target for the exact title. Alternatively, retarget to Raad since that's the actual disambiguation. TeapotsOfDoom (talk) 00:16, 19 November 2024 (UTC)WP:STRIKESOCK. -- Tavix (talk) 22:32, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Raad-1 as {{R from modification}}, which now has a hatnote. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:47, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete This seems to be an incorrect term for multiple things, and thus not really a good disambiguation and no reason to point to one over the others. Hopefully a redlink will tell the user that they have their term wrong and make them use the correct name for whatever it is they are looking for. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:00, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ra'ad 2 redirects to Ra'ad-II, Pakistani missile derived off Hatf-VIII which itself redirects to Ra'ad (air-launched cruise missile). Hence the Hatf-VIII Ra'ad could retrospectively be called Ra'ad 1.
Retarget to Ra'ad (air-launched cruise missile) and tag as incorrect name. Jay 💬 12:28, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: One more try, since there's only really been one relist's worth of discussion
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- Delete. Here's it being referred to as a surface-to-air missile [1], here as an air-launched cruise missile [2], here again as a cruise missile [3], here as an anti-missile system [4], here as maybe something else again [5]. Agree with Pppery that it
seems to be an incorrect term for multiple things, and thus not really a good disambiguation
. Cremastra (u — c) 00:30, 1 January 2025 (UTC)- Thanks for the references. So the Iranian one is truck-launched and the Pakistani one is air-launched. They both use the single quote, whereas Wikipedia doesn't use it for the Iranian articles. The nautilus.org source uses Wikipedia as its source! I have struck my vote in favour of retargeting to the dab Raad that has all spellings and combinations, and the reader is free to choose, or ponder on the complexity. Jay 💬 19:27, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Raad#Military per Jay. Sometimes at RfD we wish forlornly that we could disambiguate ambiguous incorrect names. Here we can. J947 ‡ edits 21:00, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Raad#Military as the term seems to get use and we can let the reader figure out what they're looking for there. I don't think deletion will be any better than this target that has all of the most likely uses. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 05:36, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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regional screwdrivers
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Ecuador scuba diving
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UTF-2000
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- The result of the discussion was Userfy * Pppery * it has begun... 21:31, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Delete. Non-notable subject that is not mentioned anymore in the redirect target article. See old AfD. Nidaana (talk) 15:23, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Thoughts on the page history?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:31, 1 December 2024 (UTC)- delete per nom. pre-blar history had no reliable sources. if someone wants to recreate it, they can, but as is, i'm not feeling it cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:23, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I can confirm this project exists, or at least existed, but there seem to be no non-primary sources about it (at least in English) meaning it is not eligible for an article. The target destination provides no information about the subject, and is unable to do so without a secondary source. However, it would be interesting and useful information to put in the target article, as to be perfectly honest, I'd love to see a section about oppositional efforts to Han unification in the project. But... without secondary commentary, we can't really add it. The page history, stub as it was, does has useful content if a secondary source could be found, and I'm loathe to delete it as an eternal optimist. All in all though, deletion is pretty permanent-- I'd rather leave it as a BLAR, simply hoping that a secondary source could be found somewhere, perhaps on the Japanese side of the web (my Japanese is only intermediate, I don't think I'm good enough to find it). The problem with leaving it as a redirect though, is that... again, we have no information on the subject. I wish there was some way to preserve the history without maintaining the redirect. A frustrating situation. Fieari (talk) 06:07, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- how about userifying? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:43, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Userify old content per @Cogsan, and redirect target to the userified page Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 06:01, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- i disagree with the xnr part cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:09, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Userfy / Move without redirect to User:Fieari/UTF-2000. Jay 💬 16:17, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Fieari: Can you please confirm whether or not you want the article in your userspace? -- Tavix (talk) 16:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- You know what? That would be fine. In a bit I might be able to ask around some Japanese friends of mine if they can find any better sources. Fieari (talk) 07:32, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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Sarcenet
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Wikipedia:LTS
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Wikipedia:Disambiguation#LTS. No agreement on adding a hatnote, but anyone may add one if desired. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 20:43, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:LTS → Wikipedia:Recentism (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Suggesting retargeting to Wikipedia:Disambiguation#LTS, where Wikipedia:Long-term significance already targets. This is because WP:Recentism is only an essay page that mention "long-term significance" only once whereas WP:DAB is a guideline page and LTS is used very often in RM discussions. In fact, of the 6 incoming links from discussions, 5 use it in the context of WP:DAB, and only 1 use it in the context of Recentism, the current target. A hatnote at Wikipedia:Disambiguation#LTS to WP:Recentism may be added. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 12:06, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget per nom. I don't see good reason to prioritise the essay over the guideline here, and "LTS" seems a useful (and memorable) name for PT2, which would be helpful for citing it in discussions. – Michael Aurel (talk) 08:47, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
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Dionian(ism)
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More "solider" redirects
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List of saints (disambiguation)
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- The result of the discussion was withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Absolutiva (talk) 04:29, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- List of saints (disambiguation) → Lists of saints (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Disambiguation page no longer be used. Absolutiva (talk) 02:55, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Pekka Soini
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 10:06, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Pekka Soini → wikispecies:Pekka Soini (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This is a redirect to species:Pekka Soini, but the target page does not exist. Wikispecies does mention them (in species:Amerotyphlops minuisquamus and species:Helicops yacu), but only as someone who collected a specimen, not a taxon authority – so if I'm understanding species:Help:Author Names correctly, species:Pekka Soini should not be created. jlwoodwa (talk) 00:35, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Made this one by mistake as well. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Cowboy Luttrell
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Championship Wrestling from Florida. (Note, not adding the r from incorrect name based on the last comment questioning which name is actually correct) Legoktm (talk) 06:59, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Cowboy Luttrell → National Wrestling Alliance (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention of "Cowboy" or "Luttrell" at the target article. Not a helpful redirect if we have no content on this supposed individual wrestler at the target article for the NWA. Utopes (talk / cont) 21:12, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Also known as Cowboy Luttrall. Retarget to Championship Wrestling from Florida where discussed in most detail. Probably notable, anyhow. J947 ‡ edits 23:35, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 02:16, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- In Coastal Championship Wrestling, the correct spelling Cowboy Luttrall is used to pipe to the wrong spelling Cowboy Luttrell. We can have a redirect at Cowboy Luttrall. Retarget per J947 and tag as {{R from incorrect name}}. Jay 💬 11:37, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete The fact that nobody bothered to create the correctly-spelled redirect until now is clear evidence that we don't need an incorrect spelling of it. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:40, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Whether this is technically the wrong spelling or not (which would take some digging to ascertain) is irrelevant given that this appears to be the most frequently-used spelling or at least close to it (take the NYT for one). I would be surprised to find that most peri-notable people with scattered mentions across Wikipedia have redirects in their name anyway, so I don't understand your logic. Moreover, there are way more as-yet uncreated redirects that would be kept at RfD than currently existent redirects. J947 ‡ edits 21:30, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
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Jill Martin (herpetologist)
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- The result of the discussion was speedy deleted as WP:G8 by Pppery. (non-admin closure) mwwv converse∫edits 13:14, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Jill Martin (herpetologist) → wikispecies:Jill Martin (herpetologist) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This is a redirect to species:Jill Martin (herpetologist), but the target page does not exist. Neither does species:Jill Martin. In fact, Wikispecies doesn't have any mention of Jill Martin (or "Martin, Jill"). jlwoodwa (talk) 00:13, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - I added several of these based on redlinks on an article. All were direct links to Wikispecies articles, but this was just a "local" redlink that I didn't notice wasn't a Wikispecies link. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:37, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete
AFAIK, WikiSpecies does not host that kind of information (biographies, etc)-- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 05:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)- update ok, there are bios on wikispecies, but this one is red, so delete -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 06:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- I guess this can be G8-ed (and G7 applies too obvs). J947 ‡ edits 00:21, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
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Spicier
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Pungency. Jay 💬 10:09, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
possible confusion with pungency, to which spicy redirects to? created by neelix, by the by cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:46, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Harmonize with spicy retarget to pungency -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:42, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Implausible search term. Why would readers search for the comparative term instead of the non-inflected one? Ca talk to me! 10:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, I haven't considered wikilinks. In that case, I agree with 65. Ca talk to me! 01:06, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Wang Qingyun
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