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Tehran Instagram Page

Here is Tehran Instagram page and good place for Tourism before travel to Tehran

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Firooz Kooh in Greater Tehran?!

This is the second time that I have to tell @Farnaj57 that Firuzkuh is not part of the metropolitan area. All maps show that this small city is over 100 km away from the Greater Tehran’s urban agglomeration.

If you want to revert my edit, Please provide a RS for verifying this claim.PAper GOL (talk) 21:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stop adding images

We need to make sure this article can load up with an normal internet connection, even right now there are too many images... idk why but deleting them is not easy too.. FreeZoneF (talk) 00:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not that this is a country page.... But a good example would be to follow the parent article Iran that follows WP:COUNTRYGALLERIE , MOS:UPRIGHT and MOS:SANDWICH. Moxy🍁 00:34, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Moxy Thanks for your concern. I'm leaving WP for a while, can you please watch this article? A user is kinda destroying this article by adding misleading information. I can not undo his changes anymore and I'm sure nobody gives a "damn" about this article too.. FreeZoneF (talk) 22:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Geography & Administrative set-up

In which Districts and then Rural Districts or Cities are Tehran's 1st and 20th municipal districts in Shemirant and Ray counties? I think this needs a bit more detail than simply stating that they are in those counties, which are quite physically expansive. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:07, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ref error

@Iran1234567: could you please fill in a source for the updated climate data? -- Fyrael (talk) 03:44, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lead image

The current lead image shows Azadi Tower, which is not a good representation of a megacity of over 10 million people. I have swapped out that picture with a section of Tehran's skyline, along with the newer image collage standard, but one user keeps reverting the edits without any reasonable justification given. LivinAWestLife (talk) 06:49, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@LivinAWestLife This is not Tehran. This is not how people see Tehran. You are presenting a small and exceptional part of the city as the main view of the city. If, for example, this is done in articles about Western cities, it is because these parts are influencing and serving the entire city. In Tehran, this is not the case. Your edit could be a kind of propaganda for the Iranian government to present a better image of Iran and Tehran. Edard Socceryg (talk) 01:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I came here from the ANI, and I agree with LivinAWestLife here that a skyline is a much better representation. I completely disagree with your interpretation of this as propaganda. I'll break down your comment:

"This is not Tehran." Objectively this is Tehran in the same way that the skylines of every major city we have an article about are those cities. Because it isn't reasonable to create some sort of 3D render of an entire city to put in the infobox (even if we could, this wouldn't be good for an infobox image), we have to make some sort of compromise to how much we can show, and skylines capture a lot of visual information. If anything, the Azadi Tower is a much, much smaller part of Tehran than an entire skyline.
"This is not how people see Tehran." Source? And moreover, source that a single monument, the Azadi Tower, is "how people see Tehran"? Who are "people" here? I'm people with at least a modest understanding of Iranian culture and history, and I don't see Tehran as a single tower.
"If, for example, this is done in articles about Western cities, it is because these parts are influencing and serving the entire city." I have no idea why "Western" was specified here. What does "influencing the entire city" mean? What does "serving the entire city" mean? What are these criteria? Why are they good, useful criteria? Why do you single out articles on "Western cities" as meeting them? Does Sükhbaatar Square not "serve and influence the entire city" of Ulaanbaatar? Does Meskel Square propagandize the image of Addis Ababa? Is our image of the CIB for Bogotá in service of the Petro administration?
"In Tehran, this is not the case." Why does this skyline of Tehran fail these thus-far completely nebulous criteria?
"Your edit could be a kind of propaganda for the Iranian government to present a better image of Iran and Tehran." Literally any image we present of any major city could be construed as political in some way, because ultimately it is – everything technically is. However, how is showing a city's skyline first over a single monument (which, mind, is still in the infobox) "presenting a better image of Iran and Tehran" in service of "Iranian government propaganda"? Is there an angle of the skyline you think better represents it? Because this one seems extremely good. If anything, shunning a much more representative skyline over a single White Revolution-era monument feels a lot more like propagandizing (even though I want to emphasize that I don't think this is actually a serious concern) than what LivinAWestLife did.

Honestly, I find this objection completely nonsensical and so vague as to be essentially unfalsifiable. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 11:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for summarizing my points with such clarity. I've had back-and-forth replies with Edward on my talk page and he hasn't been able to articulate why he would prefer the Azadi Tower over a picture of the skyline. LivinAWestLife (talk) 15:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheTechnician27 Thank you for your comment. I can see things more clearly... I think the overall positivity of the article made me sensitive to the images. The problem with the article is not the images. Overall, it's the article itself that is overly positive. In this case.. I think the issue is resolved! Edard Socceryg (talk) 00:20, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I am again stating, I am not a propagandist, which for some weird reason you seem to mistakenly think I am. I heavily dislike the Islamic regime and its influence on the Middle East. I also dislike North Korea, but the lead image on Pyongyang is a picture of the city's skyline, instead of a single image of Ryugyong Hotel or some statue. Wouldn't keeping Azadi Tower also be considered propaganda? Why do you think the skyline image would have any bearing on how people would view the Iranian government (or that the Azadi Tower wouldn't serve as opposition propaganda for the resistance against the government)? It is simply a wider view of the city. If you can find a more appropriate image on Wikipedia Commons I would not mind considering that for the lead image. LivinAWestLife (talk) 15:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@LivinAWestLife The suggested image is actually good. In fact, the article itself should be edited later, and images are not a problem. Thank you for working on this article. I hope my behavior did not discourage you from continuing the good edits. Edard Socceryg (talk) 00:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, thanks for replying and for having considered my points. I apologize if I was more aggressive at times in previous interactions. If you dislike the content of the article's text, you are welcome to change it provided it adheres to Wikipedia's standards. Thanks. LivinAWestLife (talk) 00:46, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]