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{removed blacklisted link} please sign the online petition to the Japanese government, regarding the comfort women issue. thanks. Odst 08:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC) melonbarmonster 09:44, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

is there a reason for signing a petition regarding chon prostitutes?Sennen goroshi 18:52, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Kimchi

I love what you did to the kimchi article, but I have changed it back to link Chinese cabbage with the mention of nappa, since I usually see it called Chinese cabbage in supermarkets. Hope you think that's reasonable. Also, Napa redirects to Chinese cabbage anyways. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 21:30, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Chinese cabbage encompasses a variety of vegetables that are not used for kimchi. Only the napa variety, also known as chinese white cabbage, is used commonly for kimchi. It's more accurate to use napa cabbage rather than a generic term. melonbarmonster 06:43, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Mediation

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Oops

Sorry for the misspelling of your name. RogueNinja 03:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Request for Mediation

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re: Mediation

i am doing the mediation on the karate talk page but we can do it on the case request page if you want more security.Razor romance 14:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Opening Statement

Please add your opening statement to the mediation page for karate.

Thanks! RogueNinja 16:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Violation of removing cited sources

It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from an article. Please be careful not to remove content from Wikipedia without a valid reason, which you should specify in the edit summary or on the article's talk page. Take a look at our welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Do not remove cited sources; see the linked article for sample text. When the reference is replaced, please be aware that continuing this would further cause a violation of the 3RR rule. —LactoseTI^T 21:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

You must be on crack. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Turtle_ship&diff=122326394&oldid=122325406

Good grief.melonbarmonster 21:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I realized I miscounted (I thought you had reverted 3 times, when in fact you reverted 4); just to let you know, a report was filed on the 3RR noticeboard for your username. —LactoseTI^T 22:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Good grief. Trying to cover up your lies by changing your previous comments i see.melonbarmonster 23:04, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Re:

Nice job on that. I was looking through the article and it sounded like it was so against ironcladding. Good friend100 01:55, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Karate/Mediation

We are awaiting your input to proceed. Cheers, Daniel Bryant 01:56, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I've closed this mediation out as successful. Please see my concluding note at Talk:Karate/Mediation#Mediation concluded. Thank you for your participation.

For the Mediation Committee, Daniel Bryant 11:48, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

if editors are threatening you...

...with blocks or administrative action, report them. I see that you have made several warnings to Komdori. If you feel that he is reverting your edits or being incivil, report him. You are allowed to do that. Good friend100 22:21, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Your comments

Since I have of course never harassed you, I'm not sure what action you perceived as harassment. Certainly I'll notify you of a 3RR report (as I always do), but before I could last time an admin looked at it and we decided the best approach might be dispute resolution. --Cheers, Komdori 13:07, 1 June 2007 (UTC) You've been reverting edits and filing 3rr reports without notification. You've also deleted my comments on your talk page against wiki policy. I just wish you'd stop lying about being Korean.melonbarmonster 20:09, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

You've implied I filed reports without notifying you. I only know of one where I didn't even get a chance to notify you since it was resolved before I even had a chance to finish filing it. Your comments were bogus, I don't have to leave vandalism there. I haven't violated any policies--one of which is having good faith, something you seem to lack with your comments about my race. --Cheers, Komdori 20:15, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

You're obviously not Korean. Your "nickname" that your wife supposedly calls you doesn't work. You had to look up kimchi cabbage in wiki cookbook and you don't know the distinctions between different "chinese cabbages". And I've caught you supporting fraudulent pro-japanese references. Why don't you just come clean and earn yourself some credibility.melonbarmonster 01:33, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Turtle Ship

It probably isn't apparent, but can be verified by the copyright notice on the index page of samurai-archives.com - unless an article in the "Featured Articles" section was written by C.E.West or F.W.Seal, it was submitted for publication, and not "self published". --Kuuzo 07:13, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Your "Warning"

Please continue to contribute, but don't remove sources or otherwise undo other editors' hard work and research. Fixing mistakes should not discourage you from editing, and doesn't constitute harassment. If you are unclear on this, I encourage you to follow through with your "report." Perhaps it would help the situation if you heard this from another person as well. —LactoseTI^T 04:37, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Your continued behavior only makes your position seem desperate and immoral. You shadowed my edit and you're again instigating a revert war in an article you've never participated in. You've done this a few times now. If you don't stop playing these games I will report you.melonbarmonster 04:46, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Please do so in order to get another opinion; I'm not shadowing you, and fixing obvious errors is not "immoral." —LactoseTI^T 04:48, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

response of your talk page.melonbarmonster 04:52, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not shadowing you. Again, please go ahead and report to get another opinion. —LactoseTI^T 04:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

You've already stated your position, leaving these pestering comments over and over is yet more evidence of your inappropriate behavior.melonbarmonster 05:03, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Are you referring to this section? I am leaving comments only in response to those that are left on my talk page. If you think this is "evidence," please "report" it and get a second opinion. —LactoseTI^T 05:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I will thanks.melonbarmonster 05:31, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule on Kimchi. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from editing. - Alison ☺ 18:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not interested as to whether you are right or wrong or whatever. You've exceeded the 3RR limit and could be blocked right now. Final warning - please discuss your issues with the article on the talk page and try to work towards consensus with the other editors because revert-warring is wasting everyone's time - Alison ☺ 18:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Kimchi

I understand where you are coming from, but right now leaving the article protected is the best option so we are not going back and forth with article edits. If other editors are not willing to discuss this issue on the talkpage, let me know... there are other avenues that can be pursued like dispute resolution.--Isotope23 13:17, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Dog meat

Hi Melonbarmonster. Aside from the philosophical deabte about its importance, I advise that you cease removing the dog meat section from Korean cuisine. You appear to be aware of WP:3RR, but it is not a free pass to revert something 3 times every 24 hours. Absent of a clear consensus among editors to remove the section, acting unilaterally to do so again would be considered disruptive. You seem to be a dedicated editor, hopefully you can continue to help build the encyclopedia. Thanks, Deiz talk 08:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC) melonbarmonster 00:38, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Stalking?

Been in the same position as you. Try an RfC on LactoseTI's behavior. I considered it seriously before but never had the time to boil up evidence. Good friend100 00:58, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

For uncooperative and WP:LAME reverting on Liancourt Rocks ([1], [2]), in contravention of the rules in Talk:Liancourt Rocks#New rules of conduct, I've blocked you for 31 hours. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:44, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't even aware of the de facto rules and my second edit was a compromise form my first. I also wasn't aware that article specific blocking rules are allowed. I don't mind being blocked from that particular article but blocking me from all editing is ridiculous. Please give me a response.melonbarmonster 21:49, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

{unblock|admin instituted article specific blocking rules that are unclear and subjective and implemented a punitive block which is against wiki blocking policy. At worse, block should apply only to article since the rule was article specific. I made an edit which was reverted by another user. I made a compromised second edit and was blocked for 31 hours without warning.}

Contacting the blocking admin. -- lucasbfr ^talk 21:59, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, well, assuming good faith on your statement you weren't aware of that warning, I guess it might be better to unblock you again. But I'll expect you refrain from all further reverts during the time this block would have run. I also note there have been other recent complaints about uncooperative editing on your part, so please be aware that on this article, this will be very narrowly watched. Actually, it seems to be working out to some extent, as some people are currently engaged in a much more constructive discussion than was possible only a few days earlier. Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:07, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Greetings Mr. Monster

Hi Melonbarmonster! I understand some of your frustration, but please keep a cool head and be careful! I don't want to see you get blocked. --Reuben 02:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Anti-Korean sentiment in Japan

Hiya. Regarding the recent category edits to Japanese invasions of Korea (1592-1598), I am curious as to what the expansionist schemes of an individual warlord of the 1590s have to do with current modern-day racism in Japanese society. I do not by any means deny that such racism exists, only that the connection between that attitude and Hideyoshi's personal desires is dubious at best. I think that today the Imjin Waeran is far more prominent in the Korean collective consciousness than in the Japanese one, which is why I originally changed the category. I hope I am not coming across as confrontational - that is not my intention. I'm simply curious as to your reasoning. How does this provide "historical context" for modern-day anti-Korean sentiment? LordAmeth 22:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

You would have to be a total ignoramus to think that anti-Korean sentiments have nothing to do with East Asian history including Hideyoshi's invasion. That had a huge impact on China, Korea, Japanese relationships.melonbarmonster 22:38, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Dog meat

I do agree that edit-wars are a waste of time but, 1. I consider my edits to be NPOV (of course others may not) because eaten is NPOV, for example I would not say 'I have tried ice-cream' because I have eaten it many times - tried implies eating it once or twice to find out if it is nice - and also eaten is grammatically correct for someone who has eaten something once 'I have eaten escargo' I ate it once, still fine. 2 You seem to be reverting the same article as well - perhaps if I edited the article and everyone else who disagreed with my edit talked about changes they wanted instead of reverting my edits then it would better, I find it unacceptable for someone to RV my edit, and then once they have reverted my edit, to then come out with 'lets discuss before entering an edit-war Sennen goroshi 06:12, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

of course some people disagreed with my edits, but thats hard suprising when I see the people who have recently contributed to that article are either Korean, foreigners living in Korea or people with some link to Korea. When I see some people who have no links/sympathies to Korea tell me that my edit is incorrect, then I would be far more likely to see their comments as something other than pro-Korea POV. Don't take that as an insult, everyone has their POV, and it shows in their edits, we are humans not machines - but when I don't agree with the opinions of a group who I consider to have potential bias, I am unlikely to concede to their POV. also wikipedia is not a democracy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:DEMOCRACY#Wikipedia_is_not_a_democracySennen goroshi 06:34, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Kōki Hirota‎

Hello melonbarmonster. In your opinion, I think that it becomes a category of "Anti-Japanese sentiment of Korea", not "Anti-Korean sentiment of Japan". But both category is not suitable now, because a reviser can not understand the reason of category in body text.

As a matter in fact, the power of prime minister was not strongly in that stage. For example, a governor-general was appointed without agreement of the prime minister, and a governor-general used the three powers in his appointed area. For the reasons above, I think that your "sentiment" category is unnatural. --Nightshadow28 07:46, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Racism within wikipedia

I would have imagined that no one apart from the worst trolls and anon IPs would stoop as low as to use racial slurs in wikipedia. however I was suprised to read this edit summary "Melonbarmonster (Talk | contribs) (3,387 bytes) (agree with anti-kor cat but the others belong. Check discussion on Jap facism cat talk page"

The word "Jap" is a very offensive racial slur (I'm sure you're aware of this" and as such, has no place in wikipedia - please refrain from using such terms.Sennen goroshi 13:35, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Sennen, I frequently agree with you on various debates here on Wikipedia, and appreciate your support in discussion contentious issues. In this particular case, however, I think we ought to assume good faith and recognize that "Jap." is simply a short form, a very common abbreviation. In my humble opinion, it should only be taken as offensive if intended by the speaker/writer to be offensive - it's all about context. After all, I don't get offended when people call me a Jew, a Yid, or a Heeb, unless they are intentionally being hateful with it. I'm sure that Melon wouldn't be offended by the use of 韓　instead of 韓国人 as an abbreviation, used simply for the sake of taking up less space and requiring less bother (fewer keystrokes). LordAmeth 22:23, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

We have to assume good faith, but I don't believe Sennen Goroshi is outraged at the racism for a second. He's just nitpicking. The same person who said "is there a reason for signing a petition regarding chon prostitutes?" on this VERY SAME talk page is outraged at what is probably a casual contraction for "Japanese?" The same person who reacted so childishly when I pointed it out? Check out my talk page for my dialogue with him, since he wiped his talk page, for whatever reason. (Whatever mysterious reason that may be, though I think it's pretty obvious if you read the dialogue) Ledtim 02:54, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I couldn't agree more with Ledtim's opinion. Sennen goroshi don't have any right to denounce Melonbarmonster having an anti-Japanese sentiment. He consistently proves himself with his "well known" personal insult against Korean and any Korea-related articles which he has no interest at all, so his assertion sounds vain and wrong to people with common sense. Melonbarmonster just wrote the abbreviated word representing Japan to describe about what Sennen goroshi has done on the article in the limited summary field. I think Wikipedia doesn't need such the author with racial bias and deep-seated prejudice like Sennen goroshi. --Appletrees 11:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)11:21, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Just a note

You may want to consider doing what I have done on some articles is a Wikipedia:Request for comment to avoid getting in trouble for edit warring and the Wikipedia:three revert rule. Sometimes arbitration is better than shoving your edits when a clear decision can not be reached by a couple of editors. I am commenting this on multiple editors concerning Asian cuisine edits.--Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC 07:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Request for arbitration

A request for arbitration has been placed at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Korean cuisine. The arbitration involves not only the issues with Korean cuisine but the issues with editing the article South Korea and the civility of multiple editors.--Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC (talk) 07:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Before making a statement, read the relevant arguments and WP:ANI

FYI, I give you a brief description about how we are in this situation now.

• 1. A seemingly newbie, User:Jjk82 made disruptive edits on 8 Korean related articles, especially, Korea and South Korea.
• 2. As the Consequence, several Korean editors got upset and made edit warrings with him. Most of the references were bogus and biased. But he got no sanction at all.
• 3. Sennen goroshi busted in the conflicts and reverted some to support User:Jjk82's edits. And then angry User:Patriotmissile reverted it on South Korea article.
• 4. Sennen goroshi reported 3RR violation against User:Patriotmissile. No sanction given to User:Patriotmissile but the South Korea article is locked from editing.
• 5. User:Patriotmissile disputed with Sennen goroshi at each other's user page. Other editors who got lectures on civility also visited at Sennen's talk page.
• 6. I had a dispute with him on Kim Ki-duk

• 7. 2 days after the incident, a member of Project Food and Drink, User:Jerem43 stopped by at Korean cuisine article to fix the position of {{cuisine}} template. I reverted his edits twice.
• 8. He preached on dog meat dispute. Badagnani rebutted his lecturing.
• 9. And then User:Jerem43 lectured WP:MoS and WP:OWN to me, but several editors didn't support his rationale. see this. Talk:Korean_cuisine#Positioning_of_info_boxes
• 10. User:Jerem43 immediately filed an absurd report at ANI in the middle of the prior discussion. In the report, he strongly urged that I, you, Badagnani, Good friend100, Sennen goroshi are to be blamed for making disputes on Korean cuisine article. <Edit war>

• 11. People mentioned that ultranationalists between Japan and Korea keep disputing.
• 12. I pointed out User:bsharvy and User:Tanner-Christopher are missing on the list. Jerem43 blamed me more to accuse of false *frame on the "innocent people'. But in fact, Tanner-Christopher and Jerem43 are acquaintance to each other in real life.
• 13. In the process, I file a report on [Jjk82 and Sennen goroshi. <Vandalism and incivility>
• 14. another newbie User:Phlegmswicke of Numbtardia stepped in and urged that you, Goodfriend100, Sennen goroshi should be blocked for editing. He/she urged the claims here and there which looked very suspicious to me.
• 15. After reading my report, User:Jerem43 made another pleading for me, you, Badagnani, Good friend100, Sennen goroshi, Patriotmissile shoule be banned. <Requested block of these users>
• 16. User:Phlegmswicke of Numbtardia kept making suspicious behaviors, insisting you and Good friend100 to be banned for the past dispute on Goguryeo, Korea, Dokdo articles. And I met him before on several occasions as he disguised in an anon. I made a file regarding his behaviors.
• 17. And then, Jerem43 defended the guy as making another report. <This will be my last comment on this matter>
• 18. Korean cuisine article is locked for 3 weeks.
• 19. RFA and disputes are in progress and now.

--Appletrees 09:38, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

About Taekwondo

JJL is Japanese Pushing POV Troll. He find one sentence from one matial arts paper book. and claimed that "TKD originally from Karate!".(actually, that book written by karate teacher[3]) I really sick and tired of this Japanese Pushing POV troll. most important thing is 'JJL edit is not FACT'. please, support me.[4] Manacpowers (talk) 21:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

mediation

thanks for the invitation! I was trying to perform an informal mediation, as I am a mediator on pl-wiki - but I don't think I have any role to take now, and I am sure that a formal mediator will do an excellent job here. I will be looking now and then to see how it goes out. Pundit|utter 00:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Request for mediation accepted

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Input requested

Please provide a summary at Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/Taekwondo - thanks much. KillerChihuahua^?!? 17:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

WP:ANI#Long time abusing Wikipedia by Japanese editors from 2channel meat/sock puppets

• WP:ANI#Long time abusing Wikipedia by Japanese editors from 2channel meat/sock puppets

Hi, Melonbarmonster, I just inform you that you're exposed to 2channel, Japanese famous bulletin board. You once said why LactoseTI (talk · contribs) and Komdori (talk · contribs) shadowed our every steps just I have been stalked by Mochi (talk · contribs), Kusunose (talk · contribs), and Amazonfire (talk · contribs). Unfortunately, many Japanese editors have abused Wikipedia with the threads for over 4 years. The discussion was three days ago, but I let you know of this now. If you have a time to look at it, visit the link. I also add the diff in case you come to the page much later, Thanks. --Appletrees (talk) 01:43, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

need some help from TKD article(JJL)

Yesterday, i read carefully Talk:Taekwondo/Archive 4, but there is no one permitted JJL's edit. by the mediation(Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Taekwondo), mediators are not accept JJL's POV edit. but i still do not understand why article is remained JJL's pov edit. may i ask you, if you are not busy please participate in this discussion.[5]Manacpowers (talk) 04:27, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Korean People Article

what's with the reference citations using the Korean language. Makes your contribution unusable, unreadable and unverifiable, don't you think? Stevenmitchell (talk) 16:54, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

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