Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gabon at the 2010 Winter Olympics
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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:07, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I can find no references that support the claim that Gabon will send 1 or more competitors to the Winter Olympics for the first time in 2010. I have checked the qualification quotas from the FIS (for skiing) and ISU (for skating) and there is no mention of Gabon. Article can be re-created if necessary later (about January 25 2010 is when entrants will be finalized), but for now this Wikipedia article is being picked up by Google searches to state this "fact". — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 01:26, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Delete per nom. No sources found whatsoever (reliable or otherwise). Article can be re-made if an official announcement is made. SnottyWong talk 01:54, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I managed to find a source: [1] (very bottom of the page). That doesn't give much info, and it's possible that the Gabon committee changes their minds later, but the article is not a hoax. Zagalejo^^^ 05:04, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- That's a good find, thanks. I don't believe this article is a hoax either, but I'm still looking for something verifiable. I have also found comments on blogs about Bahamas, Gabon, Ghana, Malta, and the Cayman Islands, but they all seem to refer to each other—and to Wikipedia. I cannot find anything definitive for Gabon and Malta. The Maltese NOC, especially, has a good website and you think they'd mention their first ever Winter Games athlete if they had a qualifier. For Bahamas, this article claims Kory Wright has qualified, but the Bahamas is not listed in the current FIS quota list. Ghana (Kwame Nkrumah-Acheampong) is on the list, as is the Cayman Islands (Dow Travers). But I cannot find anything really concrete for Gabon and Malta. There are no skiers from GAB in the FIS database, and the only MLT skier is a woman with no results (and therefore, unlikely to qualify by January). — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 05:43, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, I haven't found anything else. We should probably wait until the games actually take place; maybe someone will end up pulling a Brunei. Zagalejo^^^ 06:37, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Agree. I just want to avoid a repeat of what happened four years ago. In the rush to create all these articles before the Games, we ended up with articles for 7 different NOCs that didn't actually compete. Several were taken to AfD, and the end result was the less-than-useful Nations not competing at the 2006 Winter Olympics article. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 06:56, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, I haven't found anything else. We should probably wait until the games actually take place; maybe someone will end up pulling a Brunei. Zagalejo^^^ 06:37, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- That's a good find, thanks. I don't believe this article is a hoax either, but I'm still looking for something verifiable. I have also found comments on blogs about Bahamas, Gabon, Ghana, Malta, and the Cayman Islands, but they all seem to refer to each other—and to Wikipedia. I cannot find anything definitive for Gabon and Malta. The Maltese NOC, especially, has a good website and you think they'd mention their first ever Winter Games athlete if they had a qualifier. For Bahamas, this article claims Kory Wright has qualified, but the Bahamas is not listed in the current FIS quota list. Ghana (Kwame Nkrumah-Acheampong) is on the list, as is the Cayman Islands (Dow Travers). But I cannot find anything really concrete for Gabon and Malta. There are no skiers from GAB in the FIS database, and the only MLT skier is a woman with no results (and therefore, unlikely to qualify by January). — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 05:43, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment CTV is the official media broadcaster and has a list of all the participating countries. This could possible be the basis for determining which countries are participating or not. I created this article and 53 others from the list found on 2010 Winter Olympics. The list appears to have been compiled from many months ago and from a variety of sources. It's like Malta might have been a mistake in that process. Mkdwtalk 05:50, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- That website is clearly under construction. It has a big disclaimer at the top that says NOTE: the nations featured in this section were the competing nations from the Turin 2006 Olympic Winter Games, and may not qualify athletes for the Vancouver 2010 Olympic Winter Games, so it can't really be used as any kind of reliable source for 2010 at this time. It also does not include Malta or Gabon. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 06:10, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Even if the CTV list is accurate, then the only thing we can say in this article is that "Gabon will participate in the 2010 Winter Olympics". That would be the full extent to which we could expand the article at this time. The article is premature and needs to wait until real evidence presents itself. SnottyWong talk 13:34, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note that the CTV list does not include Gabon (or Malta). — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 16:56, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Even if the CTV list is accurate, then the only thing we can say in this article is that "Gabon will participate in the 2010 Winter Olympics". That would be the full extent to which we could expand the article at this time. The article is premature and needs to wait until real evidence presents itself. SnottyWong talk 13:34, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Wp:CRYSTAL. It can always be created if Gabon takes part in the Games. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess)|(talk to me)|(What I've done) 15:02, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree with the delete at this time, however, it should be noted that WP:CRYSTAL explicitly gives future Olympic events as an example of an article that may exist in advance in section 1. Perhaps WP:VERIFY is more appropriate grounds for deletion until it can be confirm. The only reason I bring this up is there are tens of other verified country articles like Canada at the 2010 Winter Olympics that has quite a bit of content. Mkdwtalk 16:52, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, I think it is great that we get a jump on articles like Canada et. al. where we have confirmed entries, but there should not be articles for any nation that have no confirmed entries yet. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 16:56, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree with the delete at this time, however, it should be noted that WP:CRYSTAL explicitly gives future Olympic events as an example of an article that may exist in advance in section 1. Perhaps WP:VERIFY is more appropriate grounds for deletion until it can be confirm. The only reason I bring this up is there are tens of other verified country articles like Canada at the 2010 Winter Olympics that has quite a bit of content. Mkdwtalk 16:52, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Can be recreated if and when we have confirmation of a qualified athlete. Basement12 (T.C) 17:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Though Gabon can't compete in Winter Olympics. It is a tropical country. ApprenticeFan talk contribs 02:07, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.