Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rui Borges (footballer, born 1973)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. This is bordering on a procedural keep: the arguments to keep are not the strongest, but every argument to delete is from a sockpuppet or highly suspicious IP, and as such the community does not benefit from keeping this open. Vanamonde93 (talk) 02:04, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rui Borges (footballer, born 1973)

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A clear WP:A7. There are no references; same happens in ptwiki. Always played for 2nd tier clubs and has no news article mentioning his name. Reference 1 is over 10 years old and from a local newspaper where he is mentioned as an "Assistant manager" of an, at the time, League 3 side. Not even mentioned (Ctrl+F) on the 2nd reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikisempra (talk • contribs)

Delete: No sign of notability through examination of ~~reliable~~ sources. — 01:45, 27 December 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8a0:67f0:5200:a89a:a85d:5582:5eb4 (talk • contribs)
Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 December 27. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 13:51, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Portugal. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Very difficult to search, even in conjunction with the clubs he has been associated with. The reason is that "the other Rui Borges" also had spells in Trofense, Famalicão, Académico de Viseu and up until a few days ago they were both employed by Vitória. But it is possible to do a WP:BEFORE with hits around 2000. [1] [2] is not overwhelming but it's a start and I know there are more. The nomination statement is highly inaccurate. Geschichte (talk) 20:47, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - no comment on notability but BDFutbol confirms that he had 221 appearances in the top tier of Portugal, which is quite a lot. This means that the nominator's statement of "Always played for 2nd tier clubs" is false. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:16, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not false. Second tier doesn't mean Second Division. You are welcome to read Wikipedia's policy on the notability of players which clearly states: Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. No user has yet addressed the problem, there are no references apart from Diary de Noticías, which mentions Borges as an "assistant manager". Many proeminent Professors, even Ivy League ones, have seen their pages deleted for less. As I stated, you are welcome to find references. Wikisempra (talk) 23:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:16, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep He may not have been one of Portugal's greatest players, but he is still a relevant athlete for having played in major clubs and scored goals. He was instrumental in C.D. Trofense promotion in 2008 and has had a long career with significant involvement in Primeira Liga. The user are filing request to delete the article due to conflicts with the other Rui Borges, as he have attempted to do on PTWIKI. Vazafirst (talk) 08:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Regardless of the player's relevance on a Portuguese third division side, none of the editors address the point. As per the guidelines, the article meets WP:A7. E.g.: Many Portuguese/Spanish actors have had their pages deleted despite significant coverage. Apart from the Diary of Notícias there are no references. The "Vizela Diary" meets criteria for WP:QUESTIONABLE. Wikisempra (talk) 23:13, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per sources/arguments above which show notability. Giant Snowman 11:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Significant career and from the sources presented in the discussion establish WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 20:36, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Delete No user addresses the point, there are no references of the player nor ways to prove notability. Wikisempra (talk) 23:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Geschichte presented new sources. Svartner (talk) 03:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The closer probably notices that the user advocating for "strong delete" is none other than the nominator. Furthermore, the nominator is currently blocked for sockpuppetry. I suggest that this nomination gets thrown out rather swiftly, though we should also labour to find even more sources. Geschichte (talk) 21:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what the creator has against this specific player, but it's clearly not a reason that can be supported by policy. Svartner (talk) 21:46, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No sources. Joana (talk) 23:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC) (sock strike)[reply]
Delete: It is still too early for me to have an article that should be deleted. Tgvarrt (talk) 23:43, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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