Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thamir Muhsin

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. As things stand there is clear consensus to delete, but I would be happy to provide a draftspace copy to anyone who wants one. I don't think it is terribly fair to AfD participants to leave this open without a clear indication as to why. As our policy doesn't preclude recreation if new sources are found, that is probably a better use of community time. Vanamonde93 (talk) 23:04, 12 December 2024 (UTC) NB: the drafspace copy is at Draft:Thamir Muhsin. Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:33, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Thamir Muhsin

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Unnotable lecturer at the Baghdad University. No significant coverage. SolxrgashiUnited (talk) 17:29, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. SolxrgashiUnited (talk) 17:29, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Iraq. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:23, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
• And where did you look for sources? BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:50, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

  Internet... SolxrgashiUnited (talk) 19:12, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

  Where on the internet? Did you look with his Arabic name? In books? What about newspaper archives? Because that's where the coverage would be; a plain English Google search isn't sufficient. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:37, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:46, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found (and I am sure someone better than me can find them!) which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:22, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete - I couldn't find any substantial coverage under Thamir Muhsin, a few other similar names, or what I _think_ may be his Arabic name. Searching is tough because of this Thamir Muhsen, also a sports scientist at Baghdad U. Agree with BeanieFan11 that the best chance for finding SIGCOV will be in Arabic-language newspaper archives, ideally an obit or similar. Suriname0 (talk) 20:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  No objection to a relist. Suriname0 (talk) 05:11, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete No quality sources SparklingBlueMoon (talk) 15:33, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• I can't easily find anything, but I think it's absolutely crazy that someone who managed a national team, albeit briefly (RSSSF says his first stint was taking a younger version of the national team to a cup), and someone who coached one of the top clubs in the country to the top flight for the first time, would not be notable. The problem is Arabic is a difficult language for me to find pre-internet sources from. The best I can do is a 2016 source from the Al-Talaba SC page which clearly mentions him in a translation: [1] SportingFlyer T·C 21:06, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• To the closing admin: could I request a relist to give me more time to search? Thanks, BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:15, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, a relist here would be fantastic. The sources we already have strongly suggests there would be coverage of him in hard to find places. SportingFlyer T·C 22:24, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.