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January 8

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 8, 2025.

Manop Leeprasansakul

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Target article only includes medallists, does not include this person. LibStar (talk) 23:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

50 Ways

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It could refer to other topics such as 50 Ways to Say Goodbye, 50 Ways of Saying Fabulous, and 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover (film). Frost 22:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Johnson (Peep Show

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Missing closing parenthesis Utopes (talk / cont) 20:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Invention of powder

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to my knowledge, "powder" could refer to at least one other thing. seems to have originally been created as homework, and was blar'd with an edit summary that... didn't make much sense, if i'm being honest consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 20:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom; horrendously ambiguous. The edit summary probably refers to the fact that the article gunpowder is a more complete and detailed article. Ca talk to me! 22:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Star Wars Episode VII: A New Dawn

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This redirect was created in 2013, when eager Star Wars fans believed that the copyright for the then-forthcoming Star Wars Rebels novel "A New Dawn" could have been Episode VII's eventual name. Aside from it being an inaccurate fan theory, it was never a common name or used in any official capacity. As this concerns what is now an old movie, I recommend this redirect be deleted. BOTTO (T•C) 20:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:
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seems to refer to a surname or brand. only seen in authors' names in the target consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 20:33, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

3A Apparels Droptima

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a... brand? droptima is mentioned in the target as a method of washing jeans (though not defined beyond that), but 3a isn't consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 20:29, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Potoroini

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not mentioned in the target. results seem torn between it being a related term in some language (possibly to any member of the potoroidae family), a tpyo, or in the absolute worst case scenario, a pun (though on what, i can't tell) consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 20:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - It's a legitimate taxonomic tribe per [2]. However, it includes more than just the genus Potorous (which redirects to Potoroo. Delete or keep doesn't matter... I'll have time later today to write a stub to replace it. - UtherSRG (talk) 21:58, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Upgrading my comment to keep - UtherSRG (talk) 23:46, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I created this redirect; this tribe name is from the Mammal Diversity Database and seems to be a near-synonym for the genus Potorous. Also, why go through this procedure instead of my talk page to verify this? --Ellicrum (talk) 22:19, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
it's probably worth a mention, then, though i am admittedly a little iffy on putting it there if it only seems to be a near-synonym. gonna have to do some looking in a while consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 12:04, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian Voice

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Delete as a textbook case of a redirect that does not make any sense whatsoever. Anonymous 20:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • I created this three years ago. I have no idea why now! I presume I did have a reason. Happy for it to be removed. Bondegezou (talk) 20:33, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bondegezou based on the history, it was a redirect to a DAB page with the same name and slightly different capitalization. The DAB page was deleted and this orphaned redirect ended up being retargeted to a vaguely relevant destination. So although it no longer makes sense, it did have a function when you created it. Anonymous 21:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Revert bad bot edit and speedy delete as G8, a redirect to the deleted page Ukrainian voice. The double-redirect bots have been broken in this respect for decades; it's just that no one's bothered to fix them. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:02, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Red Movement

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Not mentioned in target article, nor does the target section exist. Seems the section target may be intended to be Red#In politics, but with there not being any specific mention of this phrase in the target article, at the least, there may not be a guarantee that readers searching this phrase are intending to locate information about politics. Steel1943 (talk) 18:45, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Red Power movement, which seems like the most likely intended destination. Anonymous 20:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Turb

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Delete (though I'm unsure if that's the correct course of action). It first redirected to Future-Drama since Turb is a fictional drug very briefly mentioned once in that episode of The Simpsons. Subsequently redirected to Hot dog in what I am assuming is an act of vandalism. Its past Simpsons-related usage is barely significant. It's a made-up term used once in a throw-away line and never mentioned again. "turb" has some other minor usages (a person called (Toomas Turb, acronym for trans-urethral resection of bladder tumor, shortened form of turbulence) so I'm not entirely sure what to do with this redirect (delete? disambig? put it back to redirect to Future-Drama as it originally did? re-target?) TheZoodles (talk) 18:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pentapotamian people

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Seems unlikely someone would use an ancient greek derived name for a group of people, especially when said group did not have an independent identity at that time. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 16:00, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pentapotamia redirects to Punjab. I added those redirects by analogy. I'm also not fully sure if that term is actually "Ancient Greek", rather than a modern calque. Pescavelho (talk) 16:21, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sources in Punjab do mention that the ancient Greeks called it that. Pentapotamia as a redirect is fine, as it refers to the region. Punjabi as an actual independent identity evolved more than a millennia after that. So these redirects do not make sense. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 16:28, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:OR. Gotitbro (talk) 03:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Notified the target pages.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 17:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Peanutgate

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Not mentioned in target article, making the connection between the target and the redirect unclear. In addition, third party search engines seem to associate this phrase with Peanut the squirrel for some reason, but the redirect isn't mentioned in that article either. Steel1943 (talk) 20:40, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I'd assume it refers to the handling of Jimmy Carter's peanut farm while it was placed in a blind trust, but couldn't tell you for sure. – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 21:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Refine to § Allegations and investigations, with a hatnote to Peanut the squirrel . The terms seems to be used by the media to refer to the investigations on Jimmy Carter's peanut farm. [3][4]
However, it is also used to describe the Peanut the squirrel incident. [5][6] Ca talk to me! 07:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 17:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bloodhouse

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It seems there has been some back and forth on this one based on the edit history of Bloodhouse and Bloodhouse (disambiguation). My instinct is to use Bloodhouse as the DAB page, but I wanted to get consensus given the history. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 16:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My consensus to redirect Bloodhouse was that Bloodhouse the game dev is definitely more notable than that of a slang word. By the way, I had redirected the pub article. MimirIsSmart (talk) 23:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, MimirIsSmart! Was consensus made with another editor, or are you explaining your personal decision to move the page? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 13:49, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The latter, so I don't object to this discussion here. MimirIsSmart (talk) 13:52, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gulf of America

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Useless redirect for a name that no one uses, prompted by the news cycle. "trump wants to change the name of the gulf of mexico"--sure, but that doesn't mean anything is really going to happen, or, more importantly, that that makes this a viable search term. Drmies (talk) 14:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Drmies: the name makes sense though because it is in the American Mediterranean Sea. Sahaib (talk) 15:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That's another matter, Sahaib, and no one uses that name except for academics. WP:POFR says a "alternative names" can be redirects, but this is hardly established, and it's still a thought experiment (to put it nicely) on the part of the future president of the US. Drmies (talk) 16:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. When I heard it on the news, I considered creating this redirect for laffs. And then I immediately recalled that on Wikipedia we shouldn't do things for laffs. At the moment, there's nothing that justifies its existence. It's not an alternate name; it's just an ephemeral spin. If it ever becomes more than that, it can be easily recreated. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 18:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above arguments at least for now, until Trump's renaming idea potentially becomes an official thing once he's president (which I hope doesn't end up being successful). Cleebadee (talk) 19:09, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Until this is an actionable query, it ought to be deleted. It's pre-inauguration Trump bluster, along with the annexation of basically the Western Hemisphere. BOTTO (T•C) 21:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Nakhodka Bay which used to be known as the Gulf of America – until we actually have proper information on this, at which point retarget back or disambiguate. Note that there is discussion of a previous, tongue-in-cheek proposal at Steve Holland (politician). J947 ‡ edits 21:57, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    This is actually a good idea. Thanks for bringing this up, I didn't know it! Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 22:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I support this retarget proposal as it'd become a much more meaningful redirect. Jothefiredragon🐲talk🐉edits 10:41, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or retarget to Nakhodka Bay per above. Both are good outcomes. This is just another episode of the president-elect looking at a map of things near the US and declaring that they should all belong to him. Not an actual alternate name for the Gulf of Mexico. I do like the retarget suggestion, though. Nakhodka Bay does seem to be a valid target; the English Wikipedia version cites no sources, but Russian Wikipedia does provide sources verifying that Nakhodka used to be called the "Gulf of America." Maybe then, readers who key "Gulf of America" expecting to see a paragraph about Trump's improv ramblings (something which doesn't exist as there's consensus against mentioning this at Gulf of Mexico) would learn something new instead.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 23:08, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is indeed a very insightful find. The article badly needs references to this claim. I am having some trouble finding sources but it's most likely because I'm not using Russian. – The Grid (talk) 15:49, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. While I appreciate the retarget suggestion, if it were retargeted, the Nakhodka Bay would need to be hatnoted to direct confused readers looking for Gulf of Mexico, where the term (quite rightly) isn't used anyway. The Nakhodka Bay article has done quite well for almost 15 years without this redirect, and there's no evidence that readers have typed in "Gulf of America" when they really meant "Nakhodka Bay", and I doubt that anyone now would type "Gulf of America" when seeking that article. I don't see how the retarget would meet WP:RPURPOSE.
Better a reader get a no-such-article message than being directed to an article they almost certainly were not looking for. See also Principle of least astonishment. TJRC (talk) 01:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I 100% agree. It's a useless redirect due to a petulant manchild looking to ruffle feathers and to take over a Danish territory, attempt to illegally envelope another country and now rename a body of water - under his fascist authoritarian meglomanic malignant narcissistic tendencies.
These are all distractions, as he's begun to realize that he's not going to be able to lower the price of eggs, etc. Does the US actually have the authority to change the name ? There's actually more Mexican coastline in the Gulf of Mexico -- than the US by 100 or so miles. JohnBindon2 (talk) 11:16, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As not necessarily a Trump megafan, I totally understand why you feel that way. However, please consider not using this language when referring to a subject on this encyclopedia, even in jest and even in discussion. The use of this dismissive language does nothing except drive people to the Trump camp and devalue Wikipedia as a neutral source. Spiralwidget (talk) 13:47, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
’’’delete’’’ there is no reason to create a redirect for a thought bubble, and there’s going to be a lot more of them Flat Out (talk) 21:36, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, or make Disambiguation with Nakhodka Bay. Understanding Wikipedia editors' biases, the deletion of this redirect feels more like warfare against the current news cycle than actual stewardship of the site. As user TJRC suggested, it would probably cause more problems than benefits to simply retarget. Though it isnt *correct* to refer to the Gulf as the "Gulf of America", people will likely be searching for the Gulf of Mexico when they try to access the redirecting page. The best course of action would then be to Keep the redirect as it is.
2601:541:101:D4D0:CC1E:1B05:87C5:48C7 (talk) 22:40, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Human shields in Gaza

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Misleading redirect, as the IDF also uses human shields in Gaza. Human shields in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict is a more appropriate target. मल्ल (talk) 14:36, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget per nom. Anonymous 20:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Brian Wood (British Army solider)

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Typo in the disambiguator. Redirect targets the correct spelling. At a related RfD closed today, Brian Wood (solider) and Michael Gibson (British Army solider) were deleted. The close said that there was consensus to delete cases where the misspelling is in the disambiguator. Jay 💬 09:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Argufy

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was speedy delete as G7. SilverLocust 💬 22:31, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 18#Argufying. Paul_012 (talk) 08:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do it. CheeseyHead (talk) 17:09, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Should also delete Argufied. CheeseyHead (talk) 17:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
clumped it here, and tagged them both for g7 for good measure consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 20:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Tik tok

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Paul_012 (talk) 11:05, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Re-target to Tik Tok (song), the rationale is simply that, in a paper encyclopedia, If you search for Tik Tok in index it goes to Tik Tok, otherwise I would search for TikTok at the alphabetic order 'tikt'. I know the search isn't properly an index, but since there's not a paractical index, it should work as too. gtp (talk) 07:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Probably there is a previous RFD entry which I didn't find out at a first attempt gtp (talk) 07:58, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Regressus Diaholi

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Phrase meaning "return of the devil". Not mentioned in topic; primary topic according to a quick search is probably the Laid in Ashes song of that name for which we don't have a page (or even one for the band). Rusalkii (talk) 06:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Return of satan

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Very vague term with many possible topics of which this is not the primary one; also incorrect capitalization. Rusalkii (talk) 06:36, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

delete per the first half of the nom's reasoning, but the capitalization thing is fine. or retarget to antonblast, whichever is funnier consarn (speak evil) (see evil) 12:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sentro Rival

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Unlikely mispelling - I'm not getting any hits for this at all. Rusalkii (talk) 06:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Brill

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Non-notable retired minor league player. Chew(V • T • E) 05:54, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete due to lack of mention combined with the unlikelihood that the mere existence of the redirect itself provides the information the searcher would be looking for, nor would it be a navigational aid to the target (which would be the only two reasons to keep a redirect without a mention to my understanding). Fieari (talk) 06:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apache shirt

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Appears to refer to shirts commonly worn by the Parisian criminal Apaches (subculture) rather than the Native American tribe. A quick search suggests the most common use by far is a shirt worn by or referencing the Native American Apaches. Rusalkii (talk) 05:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tungsten Arm O'Doyle

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Meme not mentioned in subject, though it looks like there enough coverage that it could probably be added in. Rusalkii (talk) 05:14, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spectral genetic analysis

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"spectral" not mentioned anywhere in target. The exact phrase "spectral genetic analysis" seems rarely used; all hits but one are for something from the fictional show SuperFriends. Rusalkii (talk) 05:05, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Recently created with no explanation in the edit summary. No hits that produce a coherent connection to genetic analysis on DDG or Google when tacking on "-Superfriends". Cruft-y easter egg? It's possible this is meant to refer to the variety techniques that leverage fluorescence or absorbance to sequence DNA, but that is a stretch. ― Synpath 14:52, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kanye West's unrealized projects

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Not mentioned in target; this wording not used anywhere on the internet I can find. More a search term than a title. Rusalkii (talk) 05:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RETURNTORED. None of the lists linked in the disamb page Kanye West discography contain any section dedicated to unrealized projects and many of his unreleased songs are not mentioned in any place in Wikipedia. An list like the lists in Category:Lists of unrealized projects by artist could be created. Ca talk to me! 12:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've created a rough draft at Draft:Kanye West's unrealized projects. मल्ल (talk) 15:41, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wirtland (micronation)

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After it was merged, the entry was deleted for not meeting List of micronations's criteria for inclusion (non-notable / no article). Currently there is no mention of Wirtland anywhere on the article. x RozuRozu • teacups 04:54, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 05:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: History needs to be kept somewhere due to attribution requirements. Even if the content has been removed from the current version, it's still in the page history of the target. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:54, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Player1

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Template has been moved to {{Handball player}}, and all former usages have been moved to use their correct template. MikeVitale 04:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Moche (Portuguese mobile)

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"Moche" is not mentioned at the target. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Encounter Dinosaurs

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Given that the target does not discuss the Encounter Dinosaurs app, I believe users would be disappointed by this redirect. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The inter-Trump era

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After a quick Google search, I haven't found any sources using this terminology. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I made that redirect in case if someone wants to look up Biden years. As the Biden's presidency was between Trump's two terms. I thought the redirects made sense to an extent. Rager7 (talk) 00:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Grover Cleveland is the only other US president to serve non-consecutive terms. At present, we do not have similar redirects for Benjamin Harrison's presidency. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I understand, although Trump is the second president to have two non-consecutive terms. The Trump era is far memorable than Grover Cleveland and Benjamin Harrison which is another reason for the redirects.
    If you still want to delete both redirects than I'm fine with that decision, but those are my reasons for creating said redirects. Rager7 (talk) 01:07, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Xiaoxin desktop

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"Xiaoxin" is not mentioned at the target. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

PLL-01

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Not mentioned at target. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Noting that the page in question had been at the title of "PLL-01" for 10 years before it was moved by one user yesterday, tagged as an R from move. Name of "PLL-01" listed in lede for 10 years up until yesterday. Utopes (talk / cont) 18:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ponting Engineering Bureau

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None of the following terms/phrases are stated at the target: "Ponting Engineering Bureau", "Ponting Engineering", "Engineering Bureau", or "Bureau". Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I guess it should be redirected to Ponting Bridges instead. I believe Ponting Consulting Engineers Ltd, Ponting Engineering Bureau, Ponting Engineering and other translations are all the same. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 04:57, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw, Los Angeles

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Given that Crenshaw, Los Angeles exists, this redirect feels like an WP:XY situation. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Doreen Welsh

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Not mentioned at target, though they occur in other places like National_Air_and_Space_Museum_Trophy#Recipients_for_Current_Achievement and Sully_Sullenberger#Post-flight_accolades_and_publicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 12:35, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep and note in the target article. If they're notable enough to discuss another articles, they should be notable enough to discuss in a target article. BD2412 T 23:09, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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