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[edit]- 2018 Crozet, Virginia, train crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:LASTING and WP:NOTNEWS. Train-truck accidents are very common in the United States. The only reason this specific incident got so much coverage is because there happened to be some politicians on the train. CutlassCiera 21:40, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. NOTNEWS, WP:SENSATIONAL, LASTING Agree with nom. This is a WP:ROUTINE event that received coverage in some news media outlets because some politicians were involved. Coverage was short lived after the accident, and this event had no significant impact. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 00:11, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep This one is pretty well written and sourced. Regardless of the Not news and other linked reminders ... Category:Railway accidents and incidents in the United States by state or territory is evidence that these disaster articles are an accepted part of Wikipedia. — Maile (talk) 01:30, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep This did have lasting coverage, including coverage that actually occurred over a year after the event - which is already currently in the article - and as such the two arguments for deletion don't apply. SportingFlyer T·C 01:33, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep While notability is not inherited, it can be conferred, and the fact this was a special chartered train - not
there happened to be some politicans on [it]
- means this was notable, and received coverage accordingly. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:36, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Plug-in hybrid car energy efficiency (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not encyclopedic; Wikipedia is not a buyer's guide. The article is a feature and cost comparison between a selection of vehicles produced 7 to 10 years ago. It consists of only U.S.-market vehicles, and keeping it both up-to-date and complete on an ongoing basis would be impossible. Sable232 (talk) 16:35, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. The stats could ofcourse be included into the wikipedia pages for the individual car models like is done in Honda Accord (ninth generation)#Honda Accord (ninth generation). Rolluik (talk) 19:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- It is also similar in scope to the table in Miles per gallon gasoline equivalent#Electric and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles. Rolluik (talk) 19:34, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Out-of-date article that probably shouldn't have existed in the first place per WP:NOTDATABASE ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 02:25, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- İzmir–Nazilli Regional (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Tagged over a decade ago as unsourced. Cites on Turkish article are all primary sources and don’t show notability Chidgk1 (talk) 07:15, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Ribble Link Trust (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnotable subject on it's own, WP:MERGE to the main article on the Ribble Link or delete. -Samoht27 (talk) 05:11, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Ribble Link or delete. There's this [1] but on its own isn't sufficient to pass GNG/NORG. If as it seems the Trust is associated with the one project then it makes sense to include info. there. The Trust is mentioned in the target article - it could perhaps have a subheading there. Don't think the content needs merging as it's not supported by citations. Rupples (talk) 12:31, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- International Motorcycle Shows (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Defunct tradeshow. Was nation-wide for about a decade, but it fails WP:GNG and WP:NORG. mikeblas (talk) 20:36, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Note that "being defunct" is not an arugument for deletion. It may fail notability, but the fact it no longer exists isn't relevant. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:49, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note that "being defunct" is not used as an argument for deletion here. Remember: context is important. Here, it's offered as a simple and objective descriptoin of the subject. -- mikeblas (talk) 23:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Banaras Flyover (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:GNG as well as WP:NGEO. Article needs a rewrite as well. TNM101 (chat) 15:25, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
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Keep The article is terribly written, I wholeheartedly agree, but I don't believe this is a candidate for WP:TNT. A quick google search (in English only) pulls up enough results to meet WP:GNG. I'm sure there's much more in Urdu. Also, I think it may have also been named the Varanasi Flyover at one point? Angryapathy (talk) 15:33, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Well, I didn't mean the reason for the nom was its poor writing, it was actually about it not meeting notability criteria. Although if there are reliable sources, I may as well withdraw the nom TNM101 (chat) 17:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- This is not the Varanasi Flyover. The lack of details in the initial description may have led to confusion, making it seem poorly written. However, the actual information we gathered through a detailed survey was perceived as promotional by some individuals, which may have added to the misunderstanding.Abdulmuqtaddirkhan (talk) 17:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)Abdul Muqtaddir Khan
- Delete. I don't see enough in the way of independent sources to regard it as notable -- as far as I can see references 6 to 9 are the same, accounting for almost half of all the references. Why should any flyover be regarded as notable? Only if something important happened on it. As it happens the city where I live (Marseilles, France) has a flyover about 3 km in length, the avenue Alexandre Fleming, over the district of Belle de Mai, and it's not the only one, but I'd be very surprised if anyone wanted Wikipedia articles about them. Athel cb (talk) 17:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah but that's not made due to the rapes and the killings in Qasba_Aligarh_massacreAbdulmuqtaddirkhan (talk) 17:56, 27 December 2024 (UTC)AbdulMuqtaddirKhan
- Keep The sources currently in the article and even more in a BEFORE search do demonstrate it passes WP:GNG as a major infrastructure project, though it does need a rewrite. SportingFlyer T·C 01:35, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Philtranco (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. The company is common in the bus industry in the Philippines, but that does not necessarily make it notable enough to warrant a standalone article. The majority of the article's content is unsourced, and the references used are unreliable, with some pointing to tourism websites that may fall under WP:AFFILIATE or WP:UGC. A quick internet search reveals only passing mentions of "Philtranco" in news outlets, mostly in the context of bus accidents involving the company. This is insufficient to establish notability as per WP:INHERITORG and WP:CORPTRIV. AstrooKai (Talk) 06:10, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom - Jjpachano (talk) 08:36, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Redirect to List of bus companies of the Philippines per WP:ATD--Lenticel (talk) 00:06, 28 December 2024 (UTC)- Update to Keep per Cunard's findings --Lenticel (talk) 00:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
- Imperial, Leo Paulo I. (December 2021). "The Pioneering Alatco bus company: Mobility in Early-Twentieth-Century Bicol". Philippine Studies. 69 (4). doi:10.1353/phs.2021.0029.
The article discusses Albert Louis Ammen Transportation Company (Alatco), which was the previous name of Philtranco. The article notes: "Part of the Alatco’s postwar recovery was the transition of the company’s management from American to Filipino control. Possessing the largest individual holding of the corporation’s stock, the Ammen Estate interests, together with other American interests, exercised control over the company. [End Page 621] In 1949, after a lengthy negotiation, the Tuasons of Manila acquired the majority of the company’s holdings. The transaction included the Tuasons’ acquisition of 60 percent of the Alatco’s paid-up capital, together with 80 percent of the capital stock of Bicol Trading Inc., a company of truck and automobile dealers in the Bicol Region (ACCJ 1949, 392). This decisive event marked the Filipinization of the Alatco and was indicative of the subsequent changes whereby Filipino capital gradually absorbed American enterprises. The company formally changed its name to Philtranco Service Enterprises, Inc. in 1984 (Philtranco Transport Heritage Museum 1989)."
The abstract notes: "Founded on 6 July 1914, the Albert Louis Ammen Transportation Company (Alatco) was the first bus company in the Philippines and the pioneer in Bicol’s motorized public transport system. Improved road conditions in Bicol in the early twentieth century were advantageous for the rapid development of motorized inland transportation. It was in this context that enterprising American serviceman Albert Louis Ammen realized the necessity of a reliable public transport business to assist the movement of people and goods. This article focuses on the Alatco’s evolution and emphasizes how its operation transformed various aspects of life in the Bicol Region."
- Foz, Arlene Dabu (2004-07-06). "Philtranco marks 90 years in travel, transport trade". Manila Bulletin. p. B5. Factiva MABULL0020040705e0760007h. Archived from the original on 2024-12-29. Retrieved 2024-12-29.
The article notes: "Founded by former Amercian serviceman Albert Louis Ammen and Max Blouse, Philtranco, previously known as A.L. Ammen Transportation Company (ALATCO), started in Bicol on July 1, 1914. Philtranco has changed several hands since then and 40 years after its founding, ALATCO’s control shifted to the Tuason family who holds shares of the Eastern Tayabas Bus Company (ETB), a merging of three small bus companies working in Quezon’s Tayabas area. Seventeen years later, the First Manila Management Corp. (FMMC), via its subsidiary Central Auto Bus Corp. (CABCO) now known as Philtranco South Express Inc. (PSEI), bought the ALATCO and ETB from the Tuasons. Since 1984 to 1989, the bus company was known as PSEI. Between those years, PSEI’s senior executives negotiated for the transfer of ownership of the entire FMMC group to its managers, employees and pre-martial law owners. Thus, the group became the first Filipino corporation majority-owned, managed and operated by its own employees and managers. ... Philtranco has the biggest and most comprehensive bus maintenance bases in the country. They can be found in Daet, Naga, Iriga, Tabaco, Legaspi, Sorsogon, Matnog, Bulan, Catbalogan, San Isidro, Allen, Goa, Tacloban, Liloan, Davao City and Cagayan de Oro."
- Nguyễn, Uyên (2023-02-28). "Top 50 doanh nghiệp có lịch sử lâu đời tại Đông Nam Á (P.03) – Philtranco (Philippines): Hãng xe buýt với hơn 100 năm đưa đón các hành khách trên từng con đường" [Top 50 long-standing businesses in Southeast Asia (Part 3) – Philtranco (Philippines): Bus company with over 100 years of transporting passengers on every road]. Vietnam Record Assocation (in Vietnamese). Archived from the original on 2024-12-29. Retrieved 2024-12-29.
The article notes: "Philtranco được thành lập vào năm 1914 khi ông Albert Louis Ammen và ông Max Blouse tổ chức Công ty Vận tải AL Ammen (ALATCO), điều hành các chuyến xe buýt chở khách từ Iriga đến Naga. Năm 1958, quyền sở hữu được chuyển giao cho gia đình Tuason và cho Tập đoàn Mantrade vào năm 1971 ngay trước khi Thiết quân luật được áp dụng. Khi đó công ty cũng được đổi tên thành Pantranco South Express, Inc. (PSEI). Sau khoảng thời gian khủng hoảng và qua tay nhiều chủ nợ và tái thiết, tới đầu cuối những năm 1970 công ty bắt đầu kinh doanh ổn định lại. Vào năm 1979, công ty mở rộng phạm vi hoạt động sang khu vực phía đông Visayas và bắt đầu hoạt động phà tại eo biển San Bernardino ba năm sau đó. Tới năm 1984, công ty chính thức đổi tên thành Philtranco Service Enterprises, Inc."
From Google Translate: "Philtranco was founded in 1914 when Mr. Albert Louis Ammen and Mr. Max Blouse organized the AL Ammen Transport Company (ALATCO), operating passenger buses from Iriga to Naga. In 1958, ownership was transferred to the Tuason family and to the Mantrade Corporation in 1971, just before Martial Law was imposed. The company was then renamed Pantranco South Express, Inc. (PSEI). After a period of crisis and various creditors and restructuring, the company began to stabilize in the early to late 1970s. In 1979, the company expanded its operations to the eastern Visayas and began ferry operations in the San Bernardino Strait three years later. In 1984, the company officially changed its name to Philtranco Service Enterprises, Inc."
- Gonzales, Iris Cecilia C. (2004-04-04). "Philtranco sets aside P4B for 5-year expansion plan". BusinessWorld. p. 1. Factiva bswrld0020030404dz440006r. ProQuest 233827395
The article notes: "Philtranco Service Enterprises, Inc., one of the country's major transportation companies, has allotted P4 billion for a five-year expansion program involving the purchase of new buses and ferry boats and building new terminals. ... Philtranco has a total bus fleet of 349, including 164 air-conditioned buses. Its buses ply the Pasay/Cubao to Bicol, Visayas and Mindanao routes. For Bicol region alone, its market share is 71%, and 35% for ordinary buses. ... Philtranco was acquired from the Tuason family in 1958 by AL Ammen Transportation Co., which was founded by American servicemen Albert Louis Ammen and Max Bluse in 1914. The company was renamed Philtranco in 1971. In 1999, the Alvarez group took over Philtranco and Tritran."
- Ferriols, Des (2000-01-20). "Alvarez takes over Philtranco". The Philippine Star. Archived from the original on 2024-12-29. Retrieved 2024-12-29.
The article notes: "Logging and automotive tycoon Jose "Pepito" Alvarez has acquired majority control of Philtranco Services Enterprises Inc. (PSEI), the only bus carrier in the country with a nationwide public transport franchise. ... PSEI's existing fleet service Camarines Norte, Camarines Sur, Naga, Iriga, Albay, Legazpi, Sorsorgon, Davao and Leyte. It also ferries passengers direct from its Pasay terminals to Davao City and Cagayan de Oro. PSEI has a total of nine terminals nationwide, three sub-terminals and 22 stations. Its expansion project is expected to generate a P435.935-million income in the first year from a P1.646-billion revenue."
- Abunda, Boy (2008-06-25). "A city after my own heart". The Philippine Star. Archived from the original on 2024-12-29. Retrieved 2024-12-29.
The article notes: "The country’s oldest bus transportation Alatco later named Philtranco is also found in Iriga. Alatco was established by an American serviceman named A.L. Ammen. Memorabilia of the beginnings of the oldest transport in the country is housed at the Transportation Museum, inside an American plantation house type."
- Garcia, Cathy Rose A. (2003-08-06). "Philtranco eyes niche market". BusinessWorld. p. 7. Factiva BSWRLD0020030806dz860001r.
The article notes: "Philtranco is the only bus line that operates a land transport service similar to that of airlines, as the 29-seater bus has a comfort room and stewardesses that serve Jollibee meals for lunch and dinner and some snack packs. Philtranco has been in the business for 89 years now and has consolidated other bus lines through the years, namely Tritran, Jam Transit, AMA Transport and Phil Touristers. It also has an affiliate ferry company as it uses the roll-on, roll-off, or RORO, mode of transport to connect Luzon with the Visayas and Mindanao. On April 12, Philtranco opened a RORO transport service from Batangas to Iloilo. In June, it launched a Manila-Caticlan-Iloilo route as it targets tourists going to Boracay. ... Philtranco has a total fleet of 370 buses composed of 20 Gold Service buses, 200 air-conditioned and 150 ordinary buses and transports to more than 30 endpoints and 200 destinations throughout the country."
- Ramos, Elaine Ruzul S. (2003-04-04). "Philtranco expansion plan to triple passenger capacity". Manila Standard. Factiva mstd000020030404dz440007k.
The article notes: "Philtranco Service Enterprises Inc. has earmarked P4 billion for a five-year expansion program that would cover the acquisition of new buses, ferry boats, and construction of new terminals in various points of the country. ... Philtranco has a total bus fleet of 349, including 164 airconditioned buses. Its buses ply the Pasay/Cubao (Manila) to Bicol, Visayas and Mindanao. ... Philtranco, formerly AL Ammen Transportation Co. (Alatco), was founded by former American servicemen AL Ammem and Max Blouse in 1914. It was acquired by the Tuason family in 1958 and was renamed Philtranco in 1971 when the Tuason family decided to merge Alatco and the Eastern Tayabas Bus Co. Philtranco was then taken over by the owners of Victory Liner, Five Star Bus Co., and JAC Liner Inc. in 1997. Two years later, the Alvarez group, through Penta Pacific Realty Corp., took over Philtranco and Tritran."
- "Philtranco offers new services after 91 years". BusinessWorld. 2005-08-12. Factiva BSWRLD0020050812e18c0001r.
The article notes: "Philtranco recently celebrated 91 years of service to the nation. The pioneer bus company travels to all parts of the country through the Strong Republic Nautical Highway and even ferries people to departure destinations such as the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport in Clark, Pampanga. Established in 1914 catering mainly to Northern Luzon, Philtranco (formerly Pantranco, or Pantranco North Express, Inc.) has since grown into a competitive transportation provider. It offers Luzviminda, a bus-ferry operation connecting Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao; Biyaheng Pinoy, a passenger service program to promote seamless, worry-free travel; Philtranco Privilege Plus, offering year-round discounts and other amenities to regular passengers; Philtranco SMS (short message service); PhilKargo, a cargo transport system; and, most recently, the computerized ticketing and reservations system, launched during the 2004 anniversary. With new terminals in Iloilo, Tandag and the newest terminal in Cubao, Quezon City, Philtranco now has 16 major terminals, 30 end points and 200 destinations nationwide."
- Valencia, Lynda B. "Philtranco links Luzon, Visayas & M'danao". Manila Bulletin. Philippine News Agency. Factiva MABULL0020030820dz8l0001q.
The article notes: "Philtranco now known as Philtranco Service Enterprises (PSEI) will be tapping the niche market by launching a new value bus business that will be separate from Philtranco, ... A.L. Ammen decided to buy a Grawbosky truck, a rickety transport, running on two-cylinder engine with tires no different from the ice cream "carrozas" of the time, from the United States and converted this to a passenger truck. The Grawbosky seats were in arranged 'jardiniera-style' typical of the period. But passengers taking the ride were in their best suit complete with hats. The Philtranco Transport Heritage Museum at Philtranco's original terminal in Iriga City has been declared a national historical site by the National Historical Institute (NHI). That declaration recognized A.L. Ammen Transportation Company (ALATCO), the predecessor memorabilia tracing the milestones in the oldest bus firm's pioneering venture in the creation of organized transport system in the Philippines. At present, Philtranco has the widest area of coverage in the Philippines. With 15 terminals nationwide, it carries more than 2.7 million passengers a year to more than 30 endpoints and 200 destinations throughout the country. "
- Imperial, Leo Paulo I. (December 2021). "The Pioneering Alatco bus company: Mobility in Early-Twentieth-Century Bicol". Philippine Studies. 69 (4). doi:10.1353/phs.2021.0029.
- Keep Meets WP:NCORP with sources presented by Cunard. They're reliable and in-depth enough IMV. SBKSPP (talk) 02:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, one of the classic Philippine transportation companies. Cunard's WP:RS are well more than enough. I know most rich kids do not ride buses, but transport companies are not just airlines. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:41, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Important to note that this was previously known as Alatco, and then, as per above, there is plenty of sourcing. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:26, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- 2007 Comilla bus crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A WP:News article based on a brief burst of news coverage. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 19:50, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom, fails WP:LASTING. CutlassCiera 21:35, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Already PROD'd so not eligible for a Soft Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:39, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Complex/Rational 22:07, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Turkish Airlines Flight 1878 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:EVENTCRIT. Per WP:GNG, "sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability". From what I've been able to find, none of the sources were secondary in nature since none of them contained analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the event itself. The event does not have significant, in-depth, nor sustained continued coverage of the event itself with coverage only briefly occurring in the aftermath of the accident. No lasting effects or long-term impacts on a significant region have been demonstrated. WP:EVENTCRIT#4 states that routine kinds of news events including most accidents – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance, which this event lacks. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:06, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom: only immediate news coverage, no lasting effects or in-depth analysis. The event is already mentioned at Turkish Airlines § Incidents and accidents and Atatürk Airport § Accidents and incidents; there's slightly more detail at the latter page that could potentially be added to the former, but I don't think there's anything further here that deserves a merge !vote. Rosbif73 (talk) 14:45, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: per WP:NOTNEWS. Has no continued coverage. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 21:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Atatürk Airport#Accidents and incidents, which as mentioned references this incident, and has the more extensive mention of it of the two pages mentioning it. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:44, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Wikipedia is not news, so it has no continued coverage. TG-ARTICLE Well, if you want to talk to me, then why don't you click this button? There's also my contributions. 21:19, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NOTNEWS and WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE. Protoeus (talk) 18:54, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
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- 2020 Pennsylvania Turnpike crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:LASTING and also WP:NEVENT CutlassCiera 23:34, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The fact that the NTSB got involved shows notability, this wasn't a fender-bender with a few people. Oaktree b (talk) 23:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- The NTSB investigating something does not make it notable. Countless road accidents have been investigated by them but that detail doesn't mean each and every one deserves an article. CutlassCiera 23:41, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: There's also coverage in 2022 of the NTSB findings [2], [3]. Coverage of the accident in 2021 [4], that's almost two years work of coverage, that's sustained coverage. Some talk of lawsuits after, but I can't find RS about them. Oaktree b (talk) 00:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- 5 deaths and 60 injured is more than notable. It was also the most severe one to that point in time on the road [5]. Oaktree b (talk) 00:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep this wasnt a random accident, people died in this crash Codonified (talk) 12:28, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- There are lots of fatal road accidents, This one may be notable, but that doesn't make it notable in itelf. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:48, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
By virtue of the fact that this was an "accident" carries with the implication that this was random. How can it not be random? Did some dastardly person orchestrate this? Or perhaps it was the Fate of 60 or so people to collide on that day at that specific moment?---Steve Quinn (talk) 05:42, 29 December 2024 (UTC)- Lack of randomness (or lack of being random) is not part of the criteria for notability. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 14:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. There are plenty of non-trivial references, so I think WP:GNG is satisfied, as well as WP:EVENTCRIT. WP:LASTING is not a criteria for notability. -- mikeblas (talk) 04:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Although there is coverage by some news media outlets, I can't see this event as notable. I empathize that people were killed and injured but this type of stuff happens all the time on United States highways. Having this on Wikipedia seems to be pandering to the salacious. In any case, this is a WP:ROUTINE event. And Wikipedia is not a newspaper WP:NOTNEWS. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 05:31, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Despite being an unusually large car crash, it was "just" a large car crash. I don't see it rising to the level of notability set out by WP:EVENTS. In particular, the coverage is concentrated over a very short time - almost exclusively two single days, in fact (the date of the crash, Jan 5, and the release of the NTSB report on Feb 6). --Tserton (talk) 20:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Again, this is not a question of if YOU think this subject is notable but what reliable sources say. Our own opinions are not relevant. A source review would be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete For the most part we usually note these large-scale accidents within the History section of the highway it took place (here, Interstate 76 (Ohio–New Jersey)), but no accidents are noted in that article itself, and the PA Turnpike article itself is already long enough. This accident isn't really of note outside a short paragraph, possibly in the article for Mount Pleasant, Pennsylvania. Nate • (chatter) 23:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge with Mount Pleasant, Pennsylvania. The article meets WP:RS, but I agree with Steve Quinn's WP:NOTNEWS assertion. According to WP:EVENTS, not every incident that gains media coverage will have or should have a Wikipedia article. Thus, merging it will keep the details of the incident intact, but from all indications it does not warrant a separate article.--DesiMoore (talk) 13:34, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Alpha Jax (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It has been 3 years, and not even one has been made, this is why we have wp:not, it fails this for many reasons. Slatersteven (talk) 17:17, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Alpha Motor Corporation as WP:TOOSOON. Merging (if any, as the target already mentions the subject) can be done from history. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to see if there is additional support for Redirection.
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- İAOSB Müdürlüğü (Tram İzmir) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Appears to lack any significant coverage and fails WP:GNG. Note that train stations have no inherent notability (per WP:NTRAINSTATION) and I'm just not seeing anything beyond routine sources. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:36, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect T3 (Tram İzmir) as ATD. The creator made articles for every station and they cannot be WP:BLARED since there already has been a draftification attempt, so might be good to convert this to a batch nom? Jumpytoo Talk 06:13, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Jumpytoo: I do intend to nominate the rest of the recent creations as a batch, but I prefer to test the waters first before doing a batch nom that could end up being a WP:TRAINWRECK. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:59, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Just curious, why can't they be redirected due to being draftified? - The Bushranger One ping only 20:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- To clarify I meant BLARED without discussion, since the draftification was opposed they have to go through AfD Jumpytoo Talk 22:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm still confused, since drafting isn't redirecting, I'm not seeing why "opposed draftification" means "cannot boldy redirect". - The Bushranger One ping only 02:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- If one opposed draftification, it would be reasonable to expect they would oppose a redirection too. Theres nothing that disallows a BLAR after draftification, but it usually will be fruitless since it would likely be reverted and youd have to AfD anyways Jumpytoo Talk 17:38, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm still confused, since drafting isn't redirecting, I'm not seeing why "opposed draftification" means "cannot boldy redirect". - The Bushranger One ping only 02:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- To clarify I meant BLARED without discussion, since the draftification was opposed they have to go through AfD Jumpytoo Talk 22:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:14, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to line, I did my best to find sources and did not find any independent sigcov of this station. Turkish Wikipedia's sources were not helpful. Support similarly redirecting other station articles to this line. Toadspike [Talk] 14:43, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello,
- Thank you for your feedback. I understand the concerns about notability, but I believe that the articles on the stations are important and can be kept. The stations on the Izmir T3 tram line play a significant role in the city's public transportation infrastructure, and I am willing to support their notability with additional sources and content.
- The Izmir T3 line is a vital part of the city's transportation network, and these stations are integral to that. There are independent sources, such as local news articles and reports about transportation, that cover these stations and their significance. I am happy to provide these sources to demonstrate that the stations are notable beyond routine sources.
- To strengthen the articles and address the notability concerns, I propose:
- Independent news sources: Adding citations from local newspapers, transportation reports, and public relations materials to highlight the stations' role in Izmir's transport system.
- Their contribution to public transport: Emphasizing the importance of these stations in the context of the wider public transport network in Izmir.
- Diverse sourcing: Supplementing the articles with a broader range of sources, such as independent studies or official reports, to give a clearer picture of their significance.
- Given their role in the transportation system, I believe these stations do meet the notability guidelines. If there are any specific additional sources you would recommend, I am open to including them.
- I also understand the concerns and am open to improving the articles further. I believe with the right additions, these articles can meet Wikipedia's standards for notability.
- Thank you again for your input! Erdem Ozturk 2021 (talk) 19:17, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Farakka Port (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The existence of this port is questionable due to a serious lack of sources. A Google search yields no results for the so-called "Farakka Port". The cited sources in the article refer instead to a Farakka inland waterway, used for transporting coal to the Farakka Super Thermal Power Station near the Farakka Barrage. It seems it is actually referring to a floating terminal listed here. In any case, the topic fails to meet WP:GNG. The Doom Patrol (talk) 09:01, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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Suggest merge some supported content to a section in Farakka. - Davidships (talk) 13:49, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - there is not a lot of coverage in English, but it's enough to verify, and combine with significant coverage in Bengali, and it passes GNG. I added another English language source. I've been redirecting and merging a lot of unsourced Indian-related stubs, but this is an easy keep. Bearian (talk) 11:31, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 08:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:34, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Stations
[edit]- İAOSB Müdürlüğü (Tram İzmir) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Appears to lack any significant coverage and fails WP:GNG. Note that train stations have no inherent notability (per WP:NTRAINSTATION) and I'm just not seeing anything beyond routine sources. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:36, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Stations-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect T3 (Tram İzmir) as ATD. The creator made articles for every station and they cannot be WP:BLARED since there already has been a draftification attempt, so might be good to convert this to a batch nom? Jumpytoo Talk 06:13, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Jumpytoo: I do intend to nominate the rest of the recent creations as a batch, but I prefer to test the waters first before doing a batch nom that could end up being a WP:TRAINWRECK. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:59, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Just curious, why can't they be redirected due to being draftified? - The Bushranger One ping only 20:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- To clarify I meant BLARED without discussion, since the draftification was opposed they have to go through AfD Jumpytoo Talk 22:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm still confused, since drafting isn't redirecting, I'm not seeing why "opposed draftification" means "cannot boldy redirect". - The Bushranger One ping only 02:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- If one opposed draftification, it would be reasonable to expect they would oppose a redirection too. Theres nothing that disallows a BLAR after draftification, but it usually will be fruitless since it would likely be reverted and youd have to AfD anyways Jumpytoo Talk 17:38, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm still confused, since drafting isn't redirecting, I'm not seeing why "opposed draftification" means "cannot boldy redirect". - The Bushranger One ping only 02:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- To clarify I meant BLARED without discussion, since the draftification was opposed they have to go through AfD Jumpytoo Talk 22:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:14, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to line, I did my best to find sources and did not find any independent sigcov of this station. Turkish Wikipedia's sources were not helpful. Support similarly redirecting other station articles to this line. Toadspike [Talk] 14:43, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello,
- Thank you for your feedback. I understand the concerns about notability, but I believe that the articles on the stations are important and can be kept. The stations on the Izmir T3 tram line play a significant role in the city's public transportation infrastructure, and I am willing to support their notability with additional sources and content.
- The Izmir T3 line is a vital part of the city's transportation network, and these stations are integral to that. There are independent sources, such as local news articles and reports about transportation, that cover these stations and their significance. I am happy to provide these sources to demonstrate that the stations are notable beyond routine sources.
- To strengthen the articles and address the notability concerns, I propose:
- Independent news sources: Adding citations from local newspapers, transportation reports, and public relations materials to highlight the stations' role in Izmir's transport system.
- Their contribution to public transport: Emphasizing the importance of these stations in the context of the wider public transport network in Izmir.
- Diverse sourcing: Supplementing the articles with a broader range of sources, such as independent studies or official reports, to give a clearer picture of their significance.
- Given their role in the transportation system, I believe these stations do meet the notability guidelines. If there are any specific additional sources you would recommend, I am open to including them.
- I also understand the concerns and am open to improving the articles further. I believe with the right additions, these articles can meet Wikipedia's standards for notability.
- Thank you again for your input! Erdem Ozturk 2021 (talk) 19:17, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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