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Related note, in case useful/pertinent here: I noticed there's a fresh proposed code-overhaul for the equivalent gadget at Enwiki, which is intended to fix Vector-2022 display issues and other issues. Devs here, may wish to examine that (either to validate the changes for the gadget, or if feasible to use it for this task/the implementation subtask). I hope that helps.
+1 to James. We're not currently linking to the weekly changelogs from Tech News (due to overwhelming survey feedback) but we might replace a simplified version in the future (perhaps just as a single plain link in a footer-addendum to Tech News). So an x+1 solution would be great.
For the first Tech News checkbox in Phase2a, please let me know approximately when this will be ready for announcement, and what details need to be included in the entry (including which link(s) to use). I.e. Do editors need to do anything specific for content in preparation, or read any related documentation, or provide any specific feedback, or keep an eye out for any specific types of bugs? Thanks!
Is this ready to be re-added to Tech News this week? (Prior removal diff for reuse). Thanks!
For Tech News, timing-wise, is this ready for inclusion in Monday's edition (or should it wait another week, for the latest patch to be merged)?
For Tech News, please confirm if this is ready to go and/or suggest clarifications to the proposed-draft above at T373480#10104154. Thanks.
In T223772#10037893, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote:It's not yet announced in Tech/News, and the documentation will be added first before the announcement.
Is this change something that should be highlighted in Tech News? If yes: What would you suggest as the entry-text, and entry link(s)? Thanks.
Quick clarification, I think these issues affect anyone who uses Vector-2022 in a narrower browser-window (as I often do, on a laptop screen, with tiled-windows). I.e. It's not just specific to Wikifunctions (except on mobile).
For Tech News, I'll postpone this one more week, in case someone writes some documentation that we can link to (and in case any of the suggested tweaks above are implemented before the announcement).
Here's some proposed final wording for the entry (unless anyone suggests improvements):
Editors who want to understand which namespaces exist on each wiki, and some details about how they are configured, can use the new automated [[Special:NamespaceInfo]] page. Thanks to DannyS712 for these improvements. [ 1 ]
It looks like this isn't available until the deployment train, so I'll hesitantly postpone the entry until the following week (so that folks can immediately look at the contents), unless you think it is urgent that editors be warned about it's arrival beforehand. Also, I see in the blue notice-box at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tracking_categories that the category is likely to be empty/very incomplete at the start, because tracking categories aren't all instantly filled, and have to wait for each page to be re-parsed.
The text for Tech News could be something like:
Editors who help to cleanup broken wikitext can now use a new automatic [[Special:TrackingCategories|tracking category]] named "[[:Category:{{int:Double-px-category}}]]". Pages in this category contain images that specify multiple "px" values instead of just one. [ 1 ]
Does this task need to be announced in Tech News? It looks like the User-notice tag was just automatically added due to the sub-task-creation system (cf. T239378 (un-linked to avoid unnecessary mentions there)).
I cannot tell if this change requires broad announcement to all technical editors.
Please either confirm it does (and suggest some wording for how to announce it), or remove that tag. Thanks!
For Tech News, please could someone confirm if the above is accurate and suitable, or suggest any needed tweaks? (I've changed it to use present-tense now). Thanks!
For Tech News, please could someone respond to my questions above at T263513#10085981. Thanks!
For Tech News, IIUC from the above, this would be a suitable entry? Please confirm or suggest clarifications:
- It is now possible for a wiki community to request changing the order in which all pages' categories are displayed, to show in alphabetical order. The default will remain the same as before, with categories being displayed in the order that they appear in the wikitext.
The overall goal is to close the VRTS queues, and send the emails that go to the old addresses, to the newer Google-group addresses. I.e.
+1, please archive if they're not being used by others. Tech News doesn't utilize these, and hasn't for many years.
Let's leave User-notice for now, but good idea to potentially rename it in the near future.
Sounds good, either way. Thanks!
One more broken test-case (it's not just me, huzzah!) https://techcontribs.toolforge.org/cn/LMata
Hah! Thanks for filing! I'm glad I checked here before sending a bug-report via mastodon, or filing a duplicate. Let me know if I can do anything to help test/resolve it.
For Tech News, it looks like this is ready to re-announce now. Please could someone confirm if this is an accurate description to include, or if it needs tweaks, additions or something different?
Later this week, the location of the "Wikidata item" menu entry within the Tools sidebar, will be moved into the "Other Projects" section. Some wikis have already made this change locally. [ 1 ]
For Tech News, is the proposed draft still suitable as an announcement, or does it need any more details? (Thanks for the draft!).
Here's a tweaked draft (with speculated 2nd sentence! Please approve/tweak as needed):
Editors at wikis that use flagged revisions (also known as pending changes) may notice that the indicators at the top of articles have changed to be more standardized. There are some more expected improvements to these interface components, coming soon. [1]
Also, is there anything good we can link to, or just this task? Thanks.
Tech News draft wording, please let me know if this needs changes, or if it can be otherwise improved:
Editors who use the [[Special:Unusedtemplates]] page can now filter out pages which are expected to be there permanently, such as sandboxes, test-cases, and templates that are always substituted. Adding the new magic word __EXPECTUNUSEDTEMPLATE__ to a template page will hide it from the listing. Thanks to Sophivorus and DannyS712 for these improvements. [1]
(Timing-wise: We could wait a week, so that editors can immediately start using it once they learn about it, if you prefer?)
For Tech News,
There is a new easily accessible list of the namespaces on each wiki at [[Special:NamespaceInfo]]. This page may help you to [...?...]. Thanks to DannyS712 for these improvements. [ 1 ]
Yup, I understand, just my summary of my understanding was imprecise (sorry about that). Thanks.
Hi. Thanks for the suggested entry for Tech News, and the draft wording. I'm not going to include this particular piece, because as the description notes, "It's really only a line of CSS that's missing", and it wasn't preventing any kind of interaction for editors, hence it's not of major importance to widely translate and communicate. But the suggestion is greatly appreciated!
@SD0001 Thank you! One more hesitant suggestion: I was looking for something to link the term "edit notices" to, and found the page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Edit_notice - I wonder if it would be worth adding an example there for this new capability? (Or perhaps the Scribunto requirement makes this unfeasible? EDIT: (I'm probably wrong here, I see it's default with 1.34+))
@SD0001 Hi, I'm wondering if you're able to help answer any of the requests in my comment above? (Or anyone familiar, who sees this!) But I also guess you may still be traveling/recovering/catching-up from Wikimania, so no rush if it needs to wait a week or two! Thanks.
For Tech News, I believe this would be a suitable summary (both clear to those familiar, and with enough clues for those unfamiliar, and pointers for translators). Please tweak or suggest alternatives, if needed:
Six tracking categories have been renamed in TranslateWiki to make them more easily understood and consistent. These categories are automatically added to pages that use specialized MediaWiki extensions. The affected names are for: DynamicPageList, Kartographer, Phonos, RSS, Score, WikiHiero. Wikis that have created the category locally should rename their local creation to match.
Perhaps we could clarify the Tech News entry by changing the current:
A maintenance script was run to clean up unreachable pages, moving them to Special:PrefixIndex/T195546/. Your community should check if any pages exist there, and deal with them appropriately. [1]
to something like…
A maintenance script was run to clean up unreachable pages (due to Unicode issues), moving them to Special:PrefixIndex/T195546/. Your community should check if any pages exist there, and deal with them appropriately, such as by moving them to the appropriate Title, or by deleting them. [1]
Confirmation, or Alternative/clearer suggestions, would be appreciated!
And/Or edits to the Description here, if that is likely to be helpful. Thanks again.
Re: Tech News - thanks for the addition!
In the entry-text, I wonder if we can clarify what "deal with them appropriately" means?
This is a lovely micro-improvement, that I will benefit from almost daily! Thank you, all!
(I'm removing the notice tag, per comments above, but the suggestion is appreciated. Better to suggest too much, than to miss something!)
Removing user-notice tag, per task decline.
Hi, this sounds great, and thank you Pppery for adding the user-notice tag. Two requests, and a note:
Thanks!
@Ebrahim Hmm, it's not in the source at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2024/32 (as just delivered) nor is it in the source of this un-translated-but-page-created Central Kurdish page (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2024/32/ckb?action=edit) so I'd guess it's being added by the MassMessage extension during the delivery process? Hope that helps.
I cannot reproduce anymore either. I'll hesitantly resolve this task, as nobody else has reported it, and I don't recall seeing it elsewhere for years.
Thank you as always for the draft! I've tweaked that slightly, to this (adding the TranslateWiki link, and replacing 'need' with 'should'):
Now in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2024/32 if any further tweaks are needed.
Removing tag, per Benoît's plan.
@Ebrahim Thanks for the suggested Tech News entry! I was uncertain about some details, so I talked to a couple of staff developers, and they suggest that this might not need a Tech News announcement, at least not this week. Therefore I'll place it in the "not ready" column on the workboard, for now.
If it does become necessary/highly-useful in the future, then it might be best to create a wikipage with more details and some examples of the exact changes needed, so that we don't have to squish too much content into the Tech News entry itself. (E.g. Perhaps a page similar to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Heading_HTML_changes or https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Recommendations_for_night_mode_compatibility_on_Wikimedia_wikis might be good, or a section (or subpage) of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Directionality_support).
I hope that makes sense, and is ok.
Thanks again!
Thanks for the context. Makes sense. I'll mark this as low-priority just for clarity in the workboards.