Openers
Openers
Highlighted openers:
THE APOCALYPSE OPENER
Hey, hows it going.
She will say
Fine.
You then say
Cool. What are you doing later?
She will say
Im not sure.
You then say
Do you want to come home with me?
Then you hold.
Hold.
HOLD..
HOLD IT MY SON..
HOLD THE FUCKING LINE
Boom. Makeout.
And thats the Apocalypse opener. You dont build rapport. You dont elicit values. You dont
kino escalate. You dont even ask her fucking NAME. You ask if she wants to sleep with you in
the THIRD SENTENCE, hold the line, and reap the whirlwind.
The collision approach
By Rod Munch, mindlist:
"Now here's what ya do... you see a good looking girl walking down the street from a distance.
Work it out so you accidentally get right in front of her and you both have to come to a
screeching halt. Then, when she sez, "Excuse me," or whatever, you say, "Oh, it's no problem.
You would have stopped me in my tracks even if you weren't blocking my way!"
Here she can either laugh or move on w/o comment. If she moves on, she either has a dull wit or
no sense of humor, and in either case I don't want anything to do with her. If she laughs, you hit
her with Ross's line (and I will admit this is a damn good one), "You know, it's good that you
laughed, cuz it shows your mind is sharp and you have a good sense of humor, and I wanted to
see if you had more going for you than just your looks.""
Then of course you continue with anything else (offer to meet over coffee, #close, run pattern,
anything).
Normal openers:
SPELLS OPENER (Mystery Method)
"Do you think spells work?" Sometimes this will send the woman off on a long blab, but if the
conversation needs to be kept going, the follow-up routine is:
"The reason I'm asking is because my friend over there met a girl in a club last week. He wasn't
interested in her sexually, because she wasn't really his type." (Here the woman might say "Sure,"
in which case you reply "No, really!" and touch her arm or waist.) "Anyway, she hung out at his
house and after she left, he found a metal ring wrapped around a scroll and some feathers under
his couch. Well, he took it to a magick store and they said it was an attraction spell. And now,
the strange thing is, he can't stop thinking of her. Do you think it's the spell or just
psychological?"
TEXT MESSAGE BREAK-UP (LXSarging)
Is it OK to breakup with someone with a text message?
(Then make up a good back-story for this)
TWIN BROTHERS (Ross Jefferies)
You're at a party or a club and you meet twin brothers; they are absoutely identical, physically.
ONE of them has the best hands of any guy you've ever met. The other is an incredible dancer.
Which one do you pick?
Same scenario. Again, the two guys are identical. One makes you laugh more than anyone you've
ever met. The other is the most incredible kisser you could ever in a lifetime encounter. Which
one do you pick?
Same scenario: One guy has more money than Bill Gates. The other makes you feel like you are
the most beautiful, desirable woman who ever walked the face of the planet. Which do you pick?
(It'd probably be best to make up some sort of back-story for this)
WHEEL CHAIR (Ace/Papa)
Would you date a guy in a wheel chair?
(blah blah blah) if she says no say What if it was a really cool wheel chair?
"What if it was a really old wheel chair with a squeaky wheel?"
"You know with bits falling off it. If it was rusty would it come between you both?"
If she says yes set it up for who lies more.or
"What if the guy was suddenly cured by *Jesus*...would you lose interest?"
Masturbating In The Shower
YOU: Did you know that 93% of girls masturbate in the shower?
HER: No
YOU: Its true- the other 7% sing
HER: Oh really?
YOU: Do you know what they sing?
HER: No, what?
YOU: Oh, you must be one of the 93% of girls that masturbates then
HER: (Laughs)
Dog or Cat by XFMAN
XF: Hey guys let me get your opinion real fast ... What do you prefer cat or dog ?
HB: Dog
XF: No way , Dog's sucks Wink (NEG) I'm joking I have 5 Laughing ... wait, See the problem is that
my little sister/cousin birthday is in one week , she is going to turn 9 years old and I don't know
what to buy a cat or a dog , she love both cats and dogs, and the other day at the pet shop...
blah blah ( DHV story move to A2 )
Or some variations I have made of my own opener are :
What you prefer for a gift a Cd or Dvd ...
Which movie you think is better: How too loose a guy in 10 days or the notebook , the thing here
is that my sister...
RICH OPENER (Herbal, TD)
Came up with this one the other night at a club. When opening a set, walk up and ask, "Which
one of you is the richest?". Then go into the whole "Ok, you get to be my sugar mama, then. But
hmm.... we need someone to cook for us, who is the best cook?" routine.
Pretty fun and opens easily. To give credit where credit is due, it's just a variation on "Are you
rich?", which I think TD came up with.
PICKING UP CHICKS (sledge)
Just open with "Hi, we're picking up chicks". its C&F
NTRODUCTION OPENER (ijjjji)
PUA: (grab unsuspecting SHB by the arm and point at a random dude) "OMG, that guy is PERFECT
for you - let me introduce you!!" (start moving towards the guy)
SHB: What?! No.. NONONO.. haha.. Help!
PUA: (to guy) This girl is so shy, but she really wanted to meet you!
SHB: (Giggeling hysterically) Nonono... its not true!(Fleeing)
PUA: Awww come on.. don't be shy..
Both girls were very hot and totally stuck up before I did this. Both of them came back and talked
to me several times during the evening, to tell me how crazy I was...
GLASSES ON OR OFF (Twentysix)
Approach Girls
26 - Glasses off (take glasses off)
26 - Glasses on (put glasses on)
26 - What do you guys think looks better?
*HBs - (Responses: On!/Off!/What?/Laughing)
26 - Glasses off (take off glasses)
26 - Glasses on (put on glasses) (I did the sequence any where from 2 to 4 times)
HB1 - I like them on!
HB2 - I like them off! (If HBs disagree then they usually started laughing.I guess they think it's
funny that they have different opinions).
26 - My friends tell me I look like Clark Kent when I have the glasses on!
HBs - (Responses: Yeah you do! / No).
26 - Why do you like it when my glasses are on/off?
HB1 - (When likes glasses on) I think it makes you look sexy/it makes you look clever.
HB2 - (When likes glasses off) I think you look better with them off, but I like them on too!
You get the idea.it opens the group.
Here's another way I introduced the opener:
Approach Girls
26 - I need your opinion. Do I look better with my glasses off (take glasses off) or with my glasses
on (put glasses on). (I put like a fun/playful face on).
*Run with the rest of the opener above.
Trouble Shooting
If a girl asks you to put them on and off too many times I would do one of the following:
- I'd put them on and off again, but act goofy (make faces.whatever)
- Oh my god. Again? (Playful). Then I'd do it again (don't know if this is a good idea, what do you
guys think?)
- Say to the girl who didn't ask: Wow. Is she always like this? Takes a long time to make
decisions?
FEMALE ROOMMATES (Tenmagnet and TylerDurden)
I've been offered this *SWEET* place in (x place).. I want to live there, *BUT*..... I have to live
with FOUR girls. Like *FOUR*. I'm going to get 4 times the boyfriend complaints; I'll never get in
the fucking bathroom... I'm gonna have to start showering at the truck stop, and you KNOW
they're gonna synchronize. (Smile knowingly) Heck, I'll probably start *MY* period. I'm going to
have to leave the house for 5 days a month!
Did you know that's why primitive civilizations developed camping? All the women in the tribe
would synchronize and the guys would look up at the moon and be like "The antelope are moving
now, we must HUNT".
Also... living with all those girls, I could get RAPED. Did you know that 95% of guys that get date
raped commit suicide in 6 months? Girls are such sexual predators... (sexual predator routine
stuff below)."
MYSTERY'S ESP (Mystery)
Walk up to a girl and say, "Do you believe in ESP?" Remember to SMILE or you may startle her.
"Just think of the first # that pops into your head from one to four. Don't say it. Just think it ...
now take that # and imagine that it is drawn on a blackboard in your head. Have you done that?"
She says OK
"What's so neat about imagination is ... we both have it ... On the blackboard, I see the number
... three."
Whether you get it right or not reply.
"Alright, lets try this one more time. This time think of a different # from one to 10. Got it?
Picture it in white chalk on the blackboard ... you are thinking of the number ... 7."
If you got the first wrong and the second right, you look like you finally got it ... a 1 in 10 chance.
If you get BOTH right (a 90% chance seeing as it is a psychological trick where most north
Americans naturally choose 3 and 7 as their first picks) that's a 1 in 40 chance ... "and of course I
don't stake my reputation on mere chance."
If you get the first right but the second wrong or both wrong, say... "PROOF! ESP does NOT exist!"
Then start to laugh like this "Mooa ha ha ha ha ha ha! And you believe in ESP!" a good neg hit to
start. If she mentions that most people pick 3 and 7 (most girls wont know this though) just say,
"really? Hmm. didn't know that ... thank you Cliff Claven." (From Cheers)
If you take the wording I have and do this EXACTLY as stated, you will be surprised HOW well you
will do. When they ask HOW, tell them ... I DON'T KNOW. Tell her you can SEE the #s on your
imaginary blackboard. This is NOT a trick. You hate magicians. If she wants you to do this again,
tell her ... "don't be greedy now."
Speaking of greedy ... if a girl kisses you on the cheek and goes to kiss your other cheek, tell her,
"Only one ... don't be greedy." This is a good NEG HIT. Mild but a neg hit nonetheless. If she says,
"Yes, but I'm French", you reply, "Are all French girls as greedy as you?"
GIRLS FIGHTING OUTSIDE (Mystery)
With great enthusiasm... "OMG!. did you see those two girls fighting outside? Like right outside
the club... they were totally going at it; one was pulling the others' hair, and the other one drew
blood with her nails. And they seemed to be fighting over this short guy; he was standing near
them just totally laughing!
FASHION TIP (Kooper)
I think this is highly underrated.
Just go up and just tell them how they would look EVEN BETTER to you. "Wear your hair open",
"open that up one more button", or just fix their clothes. tell her what would look amazing on
her.
Train your eye to look for imperfections and what to do against them. For the clueless, get two-
dozen model magazines and look through the pictures SEVERAL times so you get some idea. Try to
make up negs for these girls and point out what would look better on them (the model magazine
idea is cro_badboys)
This sets an interesting frame. first of all, you are teaching her how to please you, if she reacts
well, praise her for being a good puppy. Second, it is obvious that you are the prize, that you
have standards and that you know what you want.
Women love the idea of seducing you, you just gotta teach them HOW and they will comply.
This is *not* delivered playful or c&f or anything, just a genuine comment.
From there, it's easy to launch right into a routine (for example you can talk about what and how
much clothes say about people and cold-read her right there. whatever you want.)
EXPENSIVE CLOTHES (TylerDurden)
"Hey guys, I need a female opinion... we were just Saks today, and there were all these 600$
collared tee-shirts. when chicks see guys wearing 6bill shirts like that, do they think its classy or
try-hard?" (That's the skeleton obviously use your own speaking mannerisms).
Then you can use what info and opinions they give you to bust on them, using all the usual stuff.
RUG DEALER OPENER (aceofhearts)
Used with a wing at night, with funny, just-got-done-laughing tonality.
"Hey, I need your opinion on something...does my friend here look like a drug dealer?" (chicks
usually either laugh or look quizzically) "Because we were outside and some dude came up to him
and touched him on the shoulder like this...
(cheap kino on girl) and asked, 'Hey man, you got some E?'" Ideally you will use this with a wing
who doesn't look too straight-laced.
I've done this where my wing will open with this and I'll pipe in with "Since I've changed my look I
get asked, "do I party" like all the time. I think they're looking for cocaine. Another thing I've
noticed is about 10 times a night I'll get someone coming up to me and asking "can I bum a
cigarette". I don't smoke but I'm seriously considering carrying around a pack. but not like regular
cigarettes. like Virginia Slims 120s. then I'll just pull one out and hand it to the guy and he'll be
all like "WTF?" etc."
DIRECT OPENERS
Hi, I like you. And I'd like to get to know you.
Hey, What's up?
Where are you going?
You're cute, are you friendly/interesting?
You guys are so adorable. You have such a cute group dynamic going on. I want to meet you guys.
My name is x-name.
How are you?
You look like someone I'd like to meet.
Can I ask you a quick question?(Sure) Are you single?etc.
(I have a lot of successes with these on girls that are HB7 and lower or older women)
DENTAL FLOSS (Style and Mystery)
Hey guys, I need to get your opinion on something. It's very important, and we need a woman's
perspective. It's a matter of life and death.. My friend and I were having a debate and your
answer could completely change my entire life....
Do you brush before floss or floss before brush? No one knows.
COMPLIMENT OPENER
Compliment her on something she's wearing or her hair or just style in general. The trick is
compliment openers are to never compliment her on her physical beauty.
You have an incredibly energy about you
You have an artless grace
That's an incredible whatever-x accessory/garment
'Do you know *insert*(what is/where is/why is)'
Her: 'Huh?' or 'yeah it's...'
Me (even butting into her reply if its longer):
'I knew (what it is/where it is/ why it is) I just thought you were cute and needed an excuse to
come over and chat'
don't see it working...
i have done what you guys suggest "you know where is (a coffee shop or sth that everyone
knows)?" and when she replies i just say "i would love if you would let me take you on a date
there"
it looks terrible but for some reason it works....