ME Trouble Shooting - V70320-0005
ME Trouble Shooting - V70320-0005
MAN Diesel
If you encounter difficulties while operating the ME-engine, this guide can be useful in solving the
problems.
The test categorises failures in: FIVA valve, FIVA sensor, cabling, MPC, exhaust valve system, ex-
haust valve sensor, fuel plunger system, fuel plunger sensor and hydraulics.
Please note that there are separate tests for different FIVA valve types.
The test categorises failures in: amplifier, power cabling, cabling to amplifier, FIVA and MPC.
The test is only applicable on systems with Curtiss Wright FIVA valves.
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Symptoms Possible Failures
FIVA Alarms Hydraulic failure
FIVA position feedback signal failure Fuel Plunger failure (Suction Valve)
FIVA Amplifier current Supervision (0 = Current) Low fuel oil pressure
FIVA Amplifier reports internal faults (Too high current) FIVA failure
Illegal position (FIVA pilot spool, window function) Exhaust Valve failures
Fuel Plunger and Exhaust Valve Alarms Non-return valves
Exhaust Valve open stroke low High-Pressure pipes
X X
Illlegal plunger position (Window function) Lack of pressure oil
X
Supervision Alarms Air Spring ventet hole failure
X
Superv. Ch30, 4102 Proportianl Valve position Electronics failure
X
Superv. Ch31, 4114, Plunger position M CW FIVA Amplifier failure
X
Superv. Ch34, 4111, Exhaust Valve position MPC failure
X
Superv. Ch33, 4106, Valve Amplifier Ac Sensor failures
X X X
Misc. Alarms Exhaust Valve position feedback failure
X X X
Frozen IO detected (Ch 30) Fuel Plunger position feedback failure
X X
Other Symptoms CW FIVA Pilot valve feedback failure
X
No fuel injection Cabling failure
X
Low Pmax
X X
Low MIP
X X X X
Increased fuel index
X X
Plunger sticking in top
X
Exhaust Valve noice
X X X
Exhaust Valve knocking
X X X
Exhaust Valve not moving
X
X X X
X X
Accumulators (One CCU) or Hydraulic X X
Power Supply (Many CCU’s)
X X X
Troubleshooting Guide
X X
If failure occurs on many cylinders - root cause can X To further identify the failure in these single alarm cases:
be extreme ambient conditions or water in oil perform sensor chain test
X X
Cylinder Components Failure Tree (CFD – Curtiss Wright FIVA)
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No
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Yes
Fuel plunger ch31 test Yes
- Set ch70 to: 14 mA (1 or 2) OR fuel injection failed ?
(This will cause fuel or exhaust valve (ch34) test (1 or 2) Failure in FIVA or hydraulics
injection) or exhaust valve
opening failed.
Test 1
Read values: No Failure in FIVA, FIVA
MUST BE DONE IMMEDIATELY sensor, sensor cable or
FIVA Pos., ch30:_________(<6mA) MPC (ch30). Go to
Fuel plunger ch31:______(>8mA) Fuel plunger ch31 No “Sensor Chain Test”
Exhaust valve ch34:_____(<8mA) value test 1 & 2
OK ?
Yes Yes
Fuel injection AND no Failure in fuel plunger
Observe events by engineer other failures ?
standing by:
Fuel injection: evaluate sound
and shockwave in pipe OK ?____ No
No
Observe events by engineer
standing by: Failure in exhaust valve
Exhaust valve: evaluate sound Non-static failure or test sensor , sensor cable or
and shockwave in pipe OK ?____ unable to detect failure MPC (ch34). Go to
“Sensor Chain Test”
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Set ch 70 to 0.6 V
No No
Check cabling
Replace Amplifier
with spare
Yes
Ch 33 = input Failure in amplifier Distribute
on ch 70 ? components: Further diagnosis
- Original amplifier on
cylinder +1,
No - Original MPC on
cylinder +2,
- Original FIVA on
Reattach original
cylinder +3,
amplifier
- Run as normal until
problem re-occur.
Replace MPC
with spare
Yes
Problem on original Failure in cabling
Yes cylinder ? or plugs
Ch 33 = input Failure in MPC
on ch 70 ?
No
No
Reattach original Problem on
Yes
MPC cylinder +1 ? (original Failure in amplifer
amplifier)
Replace FIVA
with new No
Problem on Yes
cylinder +2 ? (original Failure in MPC
Yes MPC)
Ch 33 = input Failure in FIVA
on ch 70 ?
No
No
Reattach orignal Problem on Yes
FIVA cylinder +3 ? (original Failure in FIVA
FIVA)
Failure in cabling
or plugs
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Check cables
Sensor Chain Test
thoroughly
Connect a spare
sensor temporarily
(do not mount
spare sensor)
No No
Alarm present on Alarm still present
new channel ? on original channel ?
Yes Yes
Further diagnosis
Yes
Alarm on original
Failure in cable
cylinder ?
Move sensor to No
cylinder +1 and MPC
to cylinder +2
Yes
Alarm on cylinder +1 ? Failure in sensor
(original sensor)
Continue normal
operation untill same No
alarm appears again
Yes
Alarm on cylinder +2 ? MPC input
(oiginal MPC) channel failure
No
Unrelated error
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Method 1.
1. Disconnect the isolation monitor unit (e.g. Bender xxx) from the power supply.
2. Measure the current between ground (a non-isolated point of the engine or ship steal structure)
and 0 Volt, and ground and 24 Volt, respectively, by means of an ampere meter (a multimeter in
current mode) in serial with a 2 kOhm resistor. The measurement can practically be done either
in the power supply of the ECS or in the power distribution box on the engine. If any of the cur-
rents are higher than 0.2 mA, the isolation to ground is too low. In a properly isolated system,
the current will be lower than 0.2 mA.
3. Disconnect the power plugs (J1) (which disconnects both 0 Volt and 24 Volt) for one MPC at a
time until the MPC containing the isolation fault is found, i.e. when the current drops below 0.2
mA.
4. The power plug to the MPC causing the isolation failure is connected again, and the connectors
for sensors and external signals are disconnected one at a time, until either a sensor is found
that causes the isolation failure, or all connectors have been disconnected. Ground current must
be checked as described in Item 2 between 0 Volt and 24 Volt, respectively, while each connec-
tor is disconnected.
5. If the isolation failure is located to a sensor, its cabling must be checked and perhaps the sensor
must be exchanged.
6. If the isolation failure is still present after all connectors to external signals are disconnected,
while the power connector is still connected to the MPC, the failure is probably in the MPC,
which must then be exchanged.
When the problem has been rectified, all connectors and plugs are reinstalled, and the isolation
monitor is reconnected. Check that the isolation monitor no longer initiates an alarm (note that fail-
ures might be present in more than one unit (MPC) at a time).
Method 2
1. Disconnect the power plug (J1) (which disconnects both 0 Volt and 24 Volt) in one of the MPCs .
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2. Wait one minute - check the isolation value on the isolation monitor (e.g. Bender xxxx) in power
supply A.
If the isolation value is still lower than 24 kOhm (the alarm level), then repeat point 1 in the next
MPC. In a properly isolated system the isolation is higher than 100 kOhm.
3. Repeat point 1 and 2 for each MPC until the MPC containing the isolation fault is found, i.e.
when the isolation comes above 100 kOhm.
4. The power plug to the MPC causing the isolation failure is connected again.
5. One of the connectors (J2 - J85) for the sensors and external signals is disconnected.
6. Wait one minute - check the isolation value on the isolation monitor as in point 2.
7. Repeat point 5 and 6 for each of the connectors for external signals until either a sensor is found
that causes the isolation failure (the isolation comes above 100 kOhm), or all connectors have
been disconnected.
When the problem has been rectified, all connectors and plugs are reinstalled. Check that the isolation
monitor no longer initiates and alarm (note that failures might be present in more than one unit (MPC) at
a time).
Method 3
1. Disconnect the isolation monitor unit (e.g. Bender xxxx) from the power supply.
2. Connect a voltmeter between the 0 Volt and ground (a non-isolated point of the engine or ship
steel structure) and, if possible, another voltmeter between 24 Volt and ground. Alternatively one
voltmeter must be connected alternately between 0 Volt and 24 Volt.
The measurement can practically be done either in the power supply of the ECS or in the power
distribution box on the engine.
When using this method both measured values should be within 10 - 16 V (+ or -) if the system
has normal isolation to ground, while an isolation failure normally causes one of the measure-
ment to be below 5 V and the other above 20 V.
3. The further procedure is similar to method 1 above, except that pin pointing of the isolation fault
is based on the voltage measurements being in the isolation fault or normal range as specified
in previous point 2.
When the problem has been rectified, all connectors and plugs are reinstalled, and the isolation monitor
is reconnected. Check that the isolation monitor no longer initiates an alarm (note that failures might be
present in more than one unit (MPC) at a time).
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