Congruent Tone

If you're talking to your client who's regressed to age three for example, then you will want to have the
congruent tone and congruent language of a three-year-old. You want to use the kind of words and the
kind of tone that matches the three-year-old. Speak as though you are actually conversing with a three-
year-old. If you sound clinical and analytical then you will pull your client out of the regression, because
you'll be talking to their grown-up self again.

Age regression is such a powerful tool. It is important to know how to utilize this tool so that we can
properly and effectively use this with our clients. These tips will help set you up for a successful session
of age regression. To get the most out of age regression, and in order to achieve maximum results for
your clients, you must lay the groundwork.

Conduct a hypnosis pre-talk, and use this pre-talk to help get your client prepared to reach their first
impressions quickly. Set the stage for your client’s regression by starting with general questions and
segueing into more specific questions. Be sure to remember the Fab Five, these questions will not only
provide you with the minimum amount of information you need but since they are quick and simple
questions, they will also help you to save you time during your session. Remember to avoid the word
“remember” and to speak in the present-tense to keep your client from coming out of regression. And
lastly, be sure your tone and language are congruent with the age of the client in their regression.

Watch The Video Below To Learn More

About “Essential Hypnotic Age
Regression Language For Powerful
Consistent Results”
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Video #530
Cal Banyan: Let me tell you what, when Erika and I were talking about this before the video, we
were calling it advanced age regression language or languaging and stuff like that. And what it
really is, is essential age regression language if you want maximum results. So, we're going to
really be talking about some nuances in languaging and some building blocks of languaging in
doing age regression work. A lot of people they try to do age regression work and it just goes to
pieces on them. And there's some fundamentals that you need to have in place to do that. All
right let me introduce Erika. Erika is... when I think about it right now I just think I used to call
her an up-and-comer and now she's really becoming a force in the profession as someone who's
really making a difference. She's a 5-PATH®, she is a certified 5-PATH Hypnosis Instructor, she
teaches my courses, she sees clients, she supervises hypnotists, she's like my mini me. She's
really, really doing everything. In addition to doing everything that I do, she inspires me with her
own insights. She started off in the world of computer science and one day she decided the heck
with this hardware and software and all this stuff. She wanted to work with the most powerful
computer known to humankind, the BioWare, the brain, that spot between the two ears, and she
started looking at how can I start working on that and she learned about hypnosis, took a local
hypnosis class, stoked her fire for the world of hypnosis, and she'd have enough to really get
started in the profession. So, she did some asking around and she found out, hey, if you want to
be really great in the profession, the best way to get started is to become a 5-PATH®, and the
fastest way to become a 5-PATH® is to get the 5-PATH DVD set which is a recording of a live
class. So, she did that very, very quickly. She was able to start seeing clients, then afterwards she
even sharpened her axe a little bit more by coming to a live session and live course met her at the
Nashville hypnotist. I was very, very impressed. And now today she is my co-host, she's a writer,
she's a speaker at the convention Solid Gold Weekend, and I could not be more proud of a 5-
PATH® than I am of Erika. How are you doing Erika?

Erika Flint: Hi Cal. Thank you so much for that introduction. And I am happy to be a mini-you
and I'm inspired by you every single day which is just I love doing these videos because we learn
more things just even right here as we are talking. So, let me tell everybody about you, but I have
something that I want to say about that. Cal Banyan is the authority on hypnosis that actually
works. And let me tell you guys about that because this is the hypnosis that you're going to use in
your office every single day. But it doesn't stop there. Because the excellent amazing thing about
Cal is that he's constantly creating new material. He's constantly updating, upgrading how your
software is constantly upgraded. Well, guess what? 5-PATH is constantly upgraded. And where
does that come from? Well, it comes from him and it comes from him having this amazing
insight. So just by hanging out with him here by creating these videos in a very short amount of
time, I'm already learning more things. So, I'm very happy to be a part of all of the things that
he's doing. He is super smart. He is amazing. He's able to take these complex ideas and put them
into concise bite size chunks that new hypnotists can consume and hypnotists that have been
doing it for a long time can consume and put into their practice. Now, he's been in the profession
for over 20 years. He's won nearly every single award from the National Guild of Hypnotist,
which is the oldest and largest hypnosis professional organization in the world. He is an author,
he's a speaker, he's a trainer. He's still teaching classes. He is the trainer some of the best in the
profession, and he's the one that the experts go to when they need guidance, when they need
questions, and I'm honored to be here spending time with you today. Cal, we're just having so
much fun. So, let's get rolling on age regression. This is going to be great topic, right?
Cal Banyan: It is one of my favorite topics, and it's one of my favorite things to do is to talk
about one of my favorite topics with you.

Erika Flint: Very good, very good. So advanced age regression language techniques. I was
calling it language because this came up in a recent class I was teaching students were
questioning some of the language, and why do we say certain things, and why do we do certain
things in certain ways. So, I thought it would be a great topic for this episode to help everybody
understand. When you're doing a technique like age regression that is super powerful, you want
to be able to do it really, really well. You want to be able to do it expertly so that you can get the
best results for your client. And so there are some specific techniques that make the hypnosis age
regression process go really well. That's what we're going to be talking about today. So, the first
thing that I wanted to start with is when we are. Cal, did you want to say anything about age
regression before we start with the technique?

Cal Banyan: Yes, I do. I want to set this up. All right. Before we get right into the bullet points
that Erika has to go through, I want to prep some things. I've seen people get excited about age
regression, read books on it, take a class here and there, and blah, blah, blah, and then absolutely
fail because they didn't lay the groundwork. You have to have an excellent pre-talk. You have to
move fears and misconceptions about hypnosis, or they will not go deep enough. You must have
a level of at least stage four on the Harry Aaron scale, I call that the threshold of somnambulism,
you must have some level of somnambulism because an age regression is a hypnotic LEE-
induced hallucination. There're going to be tasting, smelling, feeling things that don't exist in the
present. So, hallucination. So, you must do your preparation work excellently. You are way
better off if you use an induction that is designed to take someone into somnambulism. The two
main inductions I use all the time ... well, actually I use three inductions all the time for age
regression. I do the 5-PATH induction. It was designed to take someone quickly in the age
regression into somnambulism, covertly testing for somnambulism. And that is the 5-PATH
Induction. You can get that on 5-PathInduction.com. I gave it to the world. Anyone can use it.
You have to buy it from here. Also, there's the Eight Word Induction, look that up
EightWordInduction.com, and you're going to find out that that can take someone to
somnambulism very, very quickly. And the third is a Time Tunneling Technique Induction. You
got to have your inductions, you got to have your convinces in place, and it doesn't take long.
These are short instantaneous or rapid inductions. And then, when you do that age regression, if
you don't have a somnambulism, you don't have age regression, you have hypermnesia at best,
which is improved memory. Age regression is a real vivification, a reliving of the event. Okay, I
got that off my chest.

Erika Flint: Okay, thank you very much Cal. So, part of the technique is we're going to ask our
clients or brand, this is one way that we do this. There's a lot to this and Cal said in the previous
video there's so many videos that we have on age regression. So, we're zooming in on one
particular area today, sign up on CalBanyan.com for all the videos there. You can get all the
details on all the age regression techniques, but today is I don't want you guys to get confused or
overwhelmed here. In age regression, you're going to have your client bring up a feeling that has
everything to do with why they're coming in to see you and then you're going to ask them to
follow up back to a previous time that they felt the exact same way. Right Cal?
Cal Banyan: Yes, I'm writing some notes down here as you're talking. All right. Absolutely.
Absolutely.

Erika Flint: Very, very good. So, then what's going to happen? Alright. So, it goes something
like this 5, 4, 3 younger, smaller two, be there. Now, we say be there, we want our client to be
revivified. The first thing that we're going to do when we say be there is we're going to do
something called the gestalt which is all about setting the stage. First impression. Is it daytime or
nighttime? You're going to wait for their response. First impression. Are you indoors or out? Let
me just pause right there because one thing that I want to say, I'm going to pass it to you Cal? To
me, I've always thought of this, like I'm sitting in a play, and the curtains open and like the light
start to come on. And so, it's almost like you're trying to build the scene in your mind. And I
think that's what's happening in the minds of our clients. They're really trying to build. We're
trying to help them build that scene in their mind by asking them these questions at the
beginning. So what else do you want to say about this gestalt and how important this aspect is to
age regression.

Cal Banyan: A little bit of history on this, the daytime, nighttime, indoors, outdoors, alone or
with someone is I don't know who originated that. I know that Jerry Kind used to teach it, all the
stuff that I really liked the Jerry Kind teach, taught really came from and so it may go back there,
but as with my psychology background, I really saw that as we're setting up the gestalt, the
background, the setting for the age regression. Most people are doing age regression you can't
just say 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 be there and boom its 3D technicolor vivid everything and so it gives them
time to kind of let that stage be set. And it goes from the most general to more specific, is it
daytime or nighttime? That's very, very general. Are you indoors or outdoors? So, bit more
specific, and then are you alone or with someone and that now if there's another actor on that
stage, boom, they appear right there with them. Please continue.

Erika Flint: All right. Very good. And there's another piece of language since we're talking about
language here today, that is important there, first impression. Doesn't have to be exactly right.
Just in about one second. What's your first impression here about this? Is it daytime or night? So,
with first impression, that helps our clients understand that we really do want to understand what
their first impression about this situation is. We don't want them sitting there and considering it
or thinking about it too long, right Cal?

Cal Banyan: Right. Because what will happen is, they'll start filtering, they'll start filtering out
this and they want to be exactly right. And so, I'll say, "Quickly, first impression 1, 2, 3, daytime,
nighttime." And then I think you want to talk about some of the prep work we'll do with some
people too.

Erika Flint: Right. So for some folks that we consider to be extremely analytical or maybe even a
little bit of the perfectionist as we talked about in the previous episode, we can do something that
is a preparation for that particular client, and this is usually done outside of hypnosis, either in
the part of the hypnosis pre-talk, or perhaps even right as you're moving into hypnosis before you
do the hypnotic induction. And you can say something like this. "Today's session is going to be
even more interactive. I'm going to be asking you questions, and I want you to respond with your
very first impression. So, I'm going to ask you a few questions right now. Doesn't have to be the
right answer. Just your first impression. All right, here we go. Black or white?" And they'll
answer red or yellow, up or down, car or truck, cat or dog, sun or moon, you can come up with
your own questions there if you'd like. And so, we're just kind of getting them accustomed to
answering quickly. After that I'll say, "So if during the session you hear me say just your first
impression, you'll know that I mean I really just want your first impression. It doesn't have to be
exactly right. Is that okay with you?" That's just a little bit of preparation there, a little bit in the
setup. It's kind of like how we want to do the really awesome hypnosis pre-talk to get them set
up. This is about that as well. Anything else you want to add to that Cal?

Cal Banyan: Well, yeah, there's some cool things you can do with that, and this really only takes
about a minute. And so, if I'm with someone that I'm noticing that they're just like taking a long
time to respond, they're really overthinking things, then I'll say, "Hey, I want to run something by
you that we're going to be doing in the session." And I'll say, "We're going to do an exercise
here. The object of this exercise is to respond quickly. The answer that you give me does not
make it right. The only thing that makes it right is if you can answer within about a second. Is
that okay with you?" "Yes." And then I'll go through some questions like she said, like Erika
said, black, white, up, down, green, blue, hot, cold. But then I'll actually say the gestalt questions
too, so they have practice answering them too, daytime, nighttime, indoors or outdoors, alone or
with someone. And I say, "When I ask you questions like that in the hypnosis session, would you
be willing to answer them that way?" "Yes." Boom. Now I got contract, agreement, expectation,
proof that they can do it. Now, they can't say, "I can't respond that quickly." I know they can,
because they just did it at the desk. How's that?

Erika Flint: Perfect. I love that. That's very good. And so, it just helps the client when we're in
that situation, give me your first impression, and then they know exactly what to do. Right? Yes.
So that takes us then to the next part which is the Fab Five. So, this is really the crux of why I
wanted to do this episode here today, because a couple questions came up when I was recently
teaching and one of the questions was the distinction between one of the Fab Five questions.
Now, the distinction and let me see, Cal, do you want me to do all Fab Five questions first, or
should I just dive right in?

Cal Banyan: Let's do the Fab Five all of them first and then we'll tweak that one you want to
tweak but let me introduce something first. Okay. So, like I said, I'm in this profession because
of age regression, that's what turned me on. So, I started reading everything I could about age
regression. I was listening to audios of people doing age regression, watching videos of age
regression, and I was everything. If they had age regression tweets back then I'd be tweeting
about age regression, reading those. And I noticed that people were spending a lot of time on
stuff that didn't matter. You see, when you get to the end of the regression, then you know what
matters. In the middle of the regression back in the day before the Fab Five, people didn't know
what to spend time on and it's been way too much time on stuff that didn't matter. And so, I
believe that being a professional involves being efficient and effective. And so, through
observation and doing lots and lots of age regression sessions, I came up with a Fab Five. These
are the minimum amount of information that you must have from each event that you visit.
There's a couple of other things that are optional, but this is it. And you can get this information
very quickly. I mean, you can get it in a minute, minute and a half, and then if you're not at the
ISC yet, Initial Sensitizing Event where it all began, you can just keep drilling back. So, if you've
got 10 events to go through, and if you spend 10 minutes on each one, now you're way over an
hour and a half just trying to find the ISC, where if you're spending only admitted on each one,
then in 10 minutes, here at ISC. So, it's a tremendous, tremendous thing. We want to go to those
one by one. Proceed.

Erika Flint: Very good. Thank you. So, the very first question, they can go in certain orders, but
I'll let you address that Cal. But the first one that I'm going to go through is what's happening?
You're going to do the gestalt, daytime nighttime, indoors, outdoors, alone or with someone, if
somebody there, who's there, okay with mom, what's happening? That's the first question. Cal,
interrupt me anytime you'd like.

Cal Banyan: Let me just say the Fab Five and then we'll put the bones out there and then we can
put the meat on the bones. How does that sound? So, the Fab Five are, what's happening, just
like Erika said, daytime or nighttime, indoors or outdoors, alone or with someone. Boom! There
they are. They're doing something. If they're with someone all through the gestalt by saying,
who's there? Alright, then what's happening? What does that make you think? Or what are you
thinking? Hey, how's that make you feel or how are you feeling? Or how do you feel about that?
How old are you? And then, is it familiar or new? Now, that's the Fab Five: what's happening,
what are you thinking, feeling, how old are you, familiar or new. Now, I like to put in their age,
how old are you as soon as possible, but it doesn't make sense to do it until I find out what's
happening. So typical order for me would be slightly different than what I gave you. And that is
what's happening, and they'll say, "Oh, I'm riding my bicycle." And I'd say, "Okay, riding your
bicycle. How old are you?" "I'm five." "Okay, five, riding your bicycle. What are you thinking
about riding the bicycle", or, you know, whatever the event is that we're working on. All right
now give it back to you.

Erika Flint: All right. Very good. You asked the age second. Okay, cool. I like that. I love putting
the age when we're talking to our clients because it helps them to understand there's no question,
who we're talking to. We are talking to five who's riding his or her bicycle. There's no question
in the minds of our clients who we are referring to at that point. Okay. Five riding her bicycle.
Okay, so one of the things that I wanted to come up with here today was the distinction between
how does that make you feel and how are you feeling? The reason I'm bringing this up is because
it's come up in my classes a number of times where students have been using the language, how
are you feeling, instead of how does that make you feel. And so, I wanted to bring this up today
so that people could understand the distinction between those two and how one is preferred
usually, so that we get better results for our client. So, Cal do you want to address that because
he has some really cool things to say before the session here, before the recording session on this
topic.

Cal Banyan: Okay, so we got to keep in mind that our client comes in for something. For
example, they might come in for fear of heights, so they might come in for perfectionism, or they
might come in for smoking or eating too much. And when we do the age regression, we want to
bring up the one feeling most closely associated with the problems, where we used to say
something like in a moment count from one to five. And the one feeling it has everything to do
with why you have this, whatever problem comes up as strong as powerful as ever has. And from
that we can do Affect Bridge, or we can do Time Tunneling Technique. So, it's important that we
find the emotion most closely associated with the behavior or the symptom or whatever it is
we're working on. And then once we find it, we don't want to lose it, or we don't want to bring in
a lot of extraneous feelings. Oh gosh, I'm just itching to give you guys an insider technique. Is
that okay Erika?

Erika Flint: Yes please, that's what we are here for.

Cal Banyan: So, a basic fundamental way to do age regression is get somnambulism and then
you bring up the feeling associated with the problem, and then follow it back. Do not ask them
what the feeling is when you bring it up in this because they're in your office, they're hypnotized,
and to bring up that feeling, people may misname it. So, do not. That's why we got the Fab Five.
Once we bring them back to an earlier event, then we find out what's happening, what are you
thinking, what are you feeling, how old are you, and is it familiar or new. Now, there is a hack
and that is I can just tell them to ... I'm going to count this is Date Time Regression. Date Time
Regression hack for age regression leading into Affect Bridge or Time Tunnel, and that is, I'm
going to count from five ... so here, they are in somnambulism. I don't bring up the feeling. I say
a moment I count from five back to one and it's going to be a time when you are blanking,
whatever it was, you are about to drink, or you're about to bite your nails, or you're about to have
to speak in front of public and you're having that fear, or whatever it is. So, I just do a Date Time
Regression to a time when they were having that experience. And this can be kind of a faster,
more effective way than having them come up in the chair that day that they're visiting you. So,
for example, I'll say in the pre-hypnosis interview, I'll say, give me a thumbnail sketch of the
history of the problem, blah, blah, blah, blah, and I would simply say, so ones, like, did this
happen last week? Have you had this problem lately? And they said, "Well, of course." And I'll
say, "Well, when was that?" And they go like, "Yesterday." Okay, boom, now I know I can
regress to yesterday when they're having the problem and everything, I need to know about the
problem is there. So, I would say that got them in somnambulism and we count for five back to
one, we're going to go back to that time you told me you're having the problem yesterday. Here
we go 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 be there, is it daytime or nighttime, indoors, outdoors, alone or with someone,
and then what happens is we really get the mind of the client who's in my chair out of the way
and I get into the frame of the mind of the person who's experiencing the problem. And so right
then I find out what's happening, what are they thinking, what are they feeling, now the how old
are you is not important in this case, because, I mean, it's just yesterday, and then is that feeling
familiar or new, and then we can regress further on it. What do you think of that Erika?

Erika Flint: I think that's fantastic. And I love using the Date Time Age Regression, especially if
clients have recent experiences with whatever's going on in their life. It's right there. It's really
bothering them. The feelings are fresh, it's really kind of hot like I Like to say. It's right there. So
yeah, absolutely love that technique. Thank you, Cal. As far as the using that though, I think one
of the things that we want our students or grads, hypnotist understand is if you ask a general
question like how are you feeling in the age regression, they might go off track and answer in a
way that doesn't have to do with the original reason, or the original feeling that came up that
brought them into seeing you. Right?

Cal Banyan: Yeah, exactly. This is the things we talked about is the difference is how does that
make you feel and how are you feeling? So, remember that the age regression no matter how we
initiated it, be Time Tunnel or Affect Bridge or Date Time Regression, once we get them back
there, then we're finding out what's happening and what they're thinking. The way you feel is
directly connected to what you're thinking. So, you say, what's happening, blah, blah, blah, what
does that make you think, blah, blah, blah, blah. And how does that make you feel, you see,
gives us the emotion that's associated with what's going on and their way of thinking about it.
Where if we just take them back, daytime, nighttime indoors, outdoors, alone or with someone,
and how do you feel, wow, we could get all kinds of stuff that we could be regressing on fear of
heights. And now they're at the beach, and they're excited or they might be happy, or they might
even be by the beach by themselves, and they feel lonely, which is a painful feeling. And we
don't want to get them now Affect Bridging off of lonely because that has nothing to do with the
problem that they came in to see us for. So, we want to really be laser-focused on the emotion or
the symptom that they came into work on. So, we don't use to judge them. "Oh, so how are you
feeling?" It's, how does that make you feel? Is that what you wanted?

Erika Flint: Absolutely. I think that's really important because it's such an easy fix. And it's so
easy to keep in mind. What is that make you think and what does that make you feel? So just
keep that in mind when you're doing age regression to keep your client laser being focused on
that particular situation, it's a really easy thing to remember and use as a technique when you are
doing age regression with your client. So, I just wanted to highlight that as being ... I'm going in
advanced language, but Cal this really is the essential language in order to do really highly
effective age regression to keep our clients focused on that particular experience that is causing
them the problem, right?

Cal Banyan: Right. Now, we're running a little bit long on this episode, but it's really worth it.
Some of the things I want to get into really quick, you don't have to write an encyclopedia about
this stuff is the other most important thing is you must stay in present tense. Don't use words that
are past tense, never use the word remember, because you've gone to all this work to get to five-
year-old or seven-year-old or even three-year-old them and then you say something and you say,
"Can you remember what happened next?" Well, five or four or three-year-old self doesn't
remember it, they're reliving it. And so, what happens is when you say can you remember or
please remember, then what happens is that calls in adult aspect of themselves because it is the
adult, the person now that can remember. So, you want to stay away from remember, you want
to stay away from past tense, you always wanted to go there in your mind with the individual as
if it was happening all over again. Anything you want to add to the tense?

Erika Flint: Well, I mean, since you brought it up, it's so important if our clients are speaking in
last tense all we have to do it's really easy. We want to model the behavior that we want for our
clients. If our client says I was riding my bike. Here's what you say back to them. Something like
this. "There you are. You're riding your bike." You just easily change it. You're not going to say
to your client, "Don't talk like that," or anything like that, you want your client to feel really
good. So "I was riding my bike." "Good, there you are. You're riding your bike. Continue." Right
Cal?

Cal Banyan: Beautiful, elegant way to do it. The other thing I want to get in really quick, since
we're on the subject is congruent, congruent tone. If you're talking to your client who's regressed
to three, you want to have congruent tone and congruent language. You want to use the kind of
words and the kind of tone that matches the three-year-old ability to understand and also if three
is excited, you want to sound excited. If three-year-old is sad, then you want to talk with the kind
of tone you would use when you're talking to a sad three-year-old. If you start sounding all
clinical and analytical and using clinical and analytical words, you will pull them out of the
regression, and you'll be talking to grown up again. There you go.

Erika Flint: We could probably go on and on with these advanced parts of age regression. I think
I have a little bit of your love of age regression and, me too Cal because there's a lot of really
amazing things that ... I just love how you have succinctly put these things together for me and
my grads and all the other hypnotists to use in session with clients to get really great results for
our clients using age regression.

Cal Banyan: Are we done?

Erika Flint: We are done. Yes, thank you everyone for joining today I'm Erika Flint and you can
find me at cascadehypnosistraining.com and I hope to see you in class.

The Meta-Message Of This Episode:

Expertise Will Maximize Results
The underlying message of this episode is that while age regression
itself is a great hypnosis tool, it will do more harm than good if you are
not able to do it well. Practice and use these age regression tips in order
to help you do age regression at an expert level, so that you can get the
best possible results for your clients.

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