September October 2021
September October 2021
CA
Is the CPM
Designation
Right for You?
The Year-end Process
We’re Here to Help
Year-end is always complex. 2021 was no Seminar Options for 2021 include:
different with additional legislative changes in
every province and territory due to the continued The Complete Year-end Package
pandemic. Join us as we help you navigate We’ve developed a comprehensive online year-end offering
through the year-end reporting race and get a to help you navigate through your obligations as an
head start on the 2022 New Year requirements. employer as follows:
Our expert instructors will break down a
complicated year-end into plain language, making
• Box-by-Box Federal and Quebec Year-end Slip Reporting
(On-demand) – 4 CPE hours
legislative changes easy to understand. This on-demand webinar includes normal review of PIER
audit, T4, and T4A slips and summary and Quebec Year-
By attending you’ll benefit by:
end Reporting normal review of RL-1 slips and summary.
• Being confident that you can handle This is a pre-recorded on-demand webinar. You will
receive a link to watch this seminar three business days
year-end for your organization or clients
before you attend the live Legislative Update.
• Avoiding compliance issues for this
• Legislative Update: Year-end and New Year
year-end and in the future
(Live) – 4.5 CPE hours
• Ensuring rates are updated or applied for first
• Bonus – Payroll Balancing and Reconciliation Webinar
payroll run of the year
(On-demand) – 1.5 CPE hours
• Mitigating risk for potential audits and errors • Bonus – Any webinar of registrant’s choice
• Building trust in your organization’s payroll (On-demand) – 1.5 CPE hours
department
• Removing stress from an already busy time Legislative Update: Year-end & New Year
of the year Designed for seasoned payroll professionals with a strong
understanding of the year-end process, this half-day online
seminar focuses on new legislative changes impacting
year-end and payroll operations. It is THE one-stop shop
for Canadian legislative year-end updates. This session is
included as part of the Complete Year-end package and is
also available on-demand.
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DIALOGUE
DIALOGUE is published six times a year I’m not sure about you, but for me, the fall
by the Canadian Payroll Association.
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While this year brought some of those
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continues to interrupt our seasonal status
BOARD OF DIRECTORS quo making the past weeks, to some ex-
CHAIR tent, feel like just any other week.
Sherisse Mason, CPM However, after a long year and a half, we’re starting to see a
The City of Toronto
glimmer of some normalcy, which is exciting. Some organizations
PRESIDENT
Peter Tzanetakis
are working through return to office plans, while others are work-
The Canadian Payroll Association ing to create permanent virtual or hybrid structures. Many are also
VICE-CHAIR working through developing and implementing vaccination policies
Carolyn Lesyshen, CPM to allow the “new normal” to take shape. All of this means that we’re
Servus Credit Union Ltd.
hopefully nearing the end of this period of uncertainty.
TREASURER
Mark Betcher, PCP Interestingly, vaccination policies and remote work are creat-
The University of Winnipeg ing new areas where payroll professionals are being called upon
PAST CHAIR to provide legislation advice, or to help organizations understand
Christian Coutu, G.A.P
Intact Financial Corporation
how these new policies will tie into taxable benefits or termination
administration. As we move into the final months of the year, pay-
DIRECTORS roll professionals will continue to keep very busy. I hope everyone
Brian Burgess, CPM is ready!
School District No. 62 (Sooke)
Thankfully, we just had a great opportunity to celebrate all that
Martine Castellani
DLGL Technologies Corporation
payroll is and does. At the end of September, we wrapped up a very
successful National Payroll Week where the Association gave back
Elvira Ciambella, CPM, MBA
ADP Canada to the payroll community by offering this year’s events completely
Lynne Harkness, CPM, CHRL complimentary. With fantastic speakers, support from our sponsors
4Refuel LP and you, our members, we were able to turn the spotlight onto
Tisha Parker Kemp, M.Ed, CTDP, CPM payroll and celebrate the accomplishments made this year. Not
shiftED Academy Inc.
to mention, together, we were able to raise $39,000 for Anxiety
This communication provides general information Canada. Way to show Canadians the difference our payroll com-
about selected issues concerning payroll munity can make!
legislative and compliance issues and/or
employment and taxation laws. It is current as of Needless to say, as we move into the final months of 2021 and
October 2021. It is not legal advice and should not gear up for the craziness of year end, I am incredibly proud of the
be relied upon as a substitute for review of your
specific situation with legal counsel. Every effort impact payroll was able to make this year, and can’t wait to see what
has been made to provide accurate information; the rest of the year has in store for all of us. n
however, we advise you to seek legal counsel
and advice (from a qualified lawyer) regarding
your specific situation. Legal obligations will vary
according to the facts and circumstances, as well
as the jurisdiction.
TOLL FREE: 1 800 387 4693 ext. 772 | PHONE: 416 487 3380 ext. 772 | EMAIL: InfoLine@payroll.ca
a Canadian resident but not one any longer and the employ- the particular country of which they are a resident. If the em-
ment takes place outside Canada, income tax deductions are ployee is a resident of a country that does not have a valid social
still required per Regulation 104(2)(a). Whether the employ- security agreement with Canada, the employer is obligated to
ment would be pensionable or insurable will depend on the deduct CPP from the remuneration earned in Canada. Where
specific facts of the situation noted above and if the employer the employee’s home country does have a valid social security
had undertaken to cover CPP deductions as the employee was agreement with Canada and they provide proof of coverage, no
previously employed in Canada by them. The employer should CPP deductions are required. The employer is obligated to de-
likewise contact the tax authority for the country in which the duct EI unless the unemployment insurance laws of that country
work is performed for their obligations to that country. require premiums to be paid for that employment.
In all of the above scenarios, the employer would still be re- Any income tax deductions required for a non-resident work-
quired to file a T4 slip and return for the employee by the applic- ing in Canada would be done using the payroll deductions for
able deadline. Where deductions were applicable, they should be the province in which the employment duties were performed.
made by the applicable due dates of the payroll account.
Many still see payroll as an administrative task, instead of the more strategic function within organizations, responsible for
important strategic operational function that it is. But here at forecasting, operational planning and data sourcing, and there
the Canadian Payroll Association, we know that payroll is so will be new positions added to payroll teams that have never
much more than meets the eye, and a career in payroll can existed before.
be so much more than a job. With all of these changes coming, payroll is going to be
So where do you see your payroll career headed? working closer than ever with HR, finance and senior leadership
Perhaps at your organization you work alone or on a small to keep businesses running smoothly. Your payroll experience
team and there isn’t much variety in the payroll positions avail- and expertise could even springboard you into more senior
able. If that’s the case, you may not have put much thought into strategic roles in different departments, as many of our mem-
where your career could go, but the payroll profession is growing
bers have experienced. Payroll can lead the way to roles in
every day and there are opportunities out there for you to pursue.
business development and analytics, government and legisla-
tive affairs, human resources, finance, technology implemen-
The changing payroll landscape tation… the list goes on and on!
In 2020, the Association, together with Pricewaterhouse- If the thought of growing your career and taking on more
Coopers Canada, released the Future of Payroll report which strategic and operational roles within an organization excites
looked at all the ways the payroll function is poised to change. you, a Certified Payroll Manager (CPM) certification could be
The report showed us that payroll is going to become an even the ticket to help you get there.
• Certified Payroll Managers solve payroll challenges, design and build payroll
systems, or manage a payroll department.
• CPM certification can open new doors and opportunities. Alumni have
stated that they moved ahead quickly and elevated their career by
completing the CPM.
• The designation consists of an experience requirement and five
university-level courses that can be taken online or in-person.
• Courses are offered on weeknights, weekends, or through self-directed
certified payroll
online learning, allowing you to learn at your own pace. This allows students manager
to complete the designation while continuing to work and/or raising a family.
Payroll
survey of members to discover what issues and challen-
ges they’re facing as payroll professionals, and where they
need advocacy support. More than 4,800 Canadian payroll
Association
professionals participated in the survey, spanning a range
of organizational sizes and industries across the country.
To provide an expert perspective on the insights gleaned
Advocacy
from the survey, we spoke with our Government and
Legislative Affairs team to better understand the implica-
tions of the results going forward.
3% 3%
es, we provided all remote employees with a
Y
15% simplified T2200S form
es, we provided a simplified T2200S form to
Y
remote workers who requested one
o, our employees could use the simplified flat
N
41% method to claim a work from home tax credit
o, we did not know about the simplified form
N
38%
and provided the regular T2200 form
Other
DIALOGUE: Were there any other pandemic-related statistics that stood out to you in this year’s survey?
GAETANO GAGLIARDI, Bilingual Advisor, Government and Legislative Affairs: Employers want the de-
termination of an employee’s province of employment to be simplified. This aligns with questions we’ve been
receiving from across the country on what to do if employees work remotely from a different province than
where they were working prior to the pandemic.
Not surprisingly, our members also told us that their most challenging issues in 2020 were pandemic-related,
and included handling leaves of absence, the issuance of Records of Employment, administering payroll remotely
and interpreting, analyzing, or applying for the Canada Emergency Wage Subsidy.
Advocacy Initiative
16% O
nline Social Insurance Number (SIN) Validator to confirm that a SIN
16% belongs to specific employee.
C
RA administration of workers’ compensation premiums and employer
taxes/levies, to reduce separate provincial remittances.
Other initiatives
DIALOGUE: Are there other implications for advocacy initiatives going forward?
RACHEL: This year’s survey also provided insight into the future of payroll. For example, the potential for “Pay
on Demand” in Canadian businesses and the related impacts on payroll administration is intriguing. The trend
is gaining ground in the U.S., and although the majority of respondents were not interested in the concept, it’s
an important trend to pay attention to. Our role includes researching trends such as this, analyzing the potential
impacts on payroll, engaging with other employer groups and making recommendations to government on
minimizing the impacts of new legislation on employers.
DIALOGUE: Has the pandemic changed the willingness of government to work with payroll in the development
of new policies/legislation?
RACHEL: Certainly the pandemic has demonstrated that payroll is an essential function. We continue to have
strong, collaborative and respectful relationships with all levels of government and the goal of our advocacy
is always a win-win-win — for employers, employees and government. Knowing this, government often seeks
out the Association as a key stakeholder on new policies or legislation that affect payroll.
The Association continues to be the national advocate for payroll professionals in Canada. As the key stake-
holder on major government initiatives, we ensure that payroll professionals’ voices are collectively raised
through the Association.
DIALOGUE: Thank you Rachel and Gaetano, for providing your insights into the priorities and challenges of
the payroll profession in Canada today.
To our members - if you participated in this year’s survey, we also want to thank you for taking the time to
share your perspective. This survey is a critical pulse check for the Association, and we’re pleased to represent
you, our members, with the information, education, training and advocacy work with the federal and provincial
governments that form the foundation of your work. n
✔
DECLARE YOUR CPE HOURS BY DECEMBER 31
CPE For certified members, Continuing Professional Education (CPE) is required to maintain your
certification, reinforcing the credibility of the Payroll Compliance Practitioner (PCP) and Certified
Payroll Manager (CPM) certifications. The CPE cycle for all professionals runs annually from
January 1 to December 31.
◗◗ PCP certification holders are required to attain and declare 14 hours of CPE annually.
◗◗ CPM certification holders are required to attain and declare 21 hours of CPE annually.
CPE Declarations must be submitted through the Association’s website by December 31 each
✔ year. You can earn CPE hours by attending a Canadian Payroll Association seminar or webinar.
Other professional organizations also offer excellent training. Or networking and information-
sharing activities and events may be more your style. If you need more ideas, check out our
website at payroll.ca/Certification for CPE-approved activities. You will also find more details
about the CPE requirement.
CPE
Department: Manager:
Severance pay/Retiring
Calculate and determine eligible and non-eligible portions ❑
allowance
Ask if employee would like to transfer any portion of final payment to an RRSP,
RRSP/RPP transfers ❑
RPP or DPSP (see CPA’s sample Retiring Allowance Transfer Form)
Reconcile taxable benefits and process any necessary adjustments on final pay ❑
Reconcile employee-paid benefits deductions and process any adjustments on
final pay ❑
Cancel or continue until ___/___/___ as per termination letter
Benefits
mm / dd / yy
❑
(Under the Ontario Employment Standards Act, employees must retain all benefits
until the end of the legislated notice period.)
Sign-on bonus Verify with company policy/employee contract for repayments upon termination ❑
Other ❑
COMPANY ASSETS
COMMUNICATIONS
Notify staff and management Internal notification of termination (timing and method often a sensitive matter) ❑
Union Notify union of termination ❑
Association/Board/
Notify/cancel membership (if applicable) ❑
Membership
Other ❑
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A Successful
Payroll Career
with Pat Kniginyzky, PCP
In September, Pat Kniginyzky, PCP, closed one chapter and
began a new one as she retired from her long and success-
ful career in payroll. Pat is a dedicated member, volunteer,
subject matter expert and instructor for the Canadian Payroll
Association, and is also a member of our government relations
PSSP sub-committee. Before Pat was able to kick her feet up
to enjoy a well-earned retirement, we wanted to chat with
her about her career and what she has planned for the next
exciting phase of her life.
Editor: Pat, tell us about your career and how you got into support team in 2004. That opened doors for me to get in-
payroll technology. volved in product development and product support using my
Pat: As I’m sure many others have, I fell into payroll “by ac- experience with client users. This was also during the period
cident.” I was fresh out of university working for Royal Bank as when technology was transitioning from desk top apps to web
Branch Administration Officer when a Service Rep from RBC’s based. It was an exciting time to be involved in “next gen”
Payroll Technologies Department came into my branch to pick development and I learned so much.
up a new client’s payroll pouch. We chatted about her depart- Editor: What have been some of the biggest changes you’ve
ment and the work sounded interesting, so I reached out to her noticed in the payroll space during your career?
manager for an exploratory interview and was hired shortly Pat: When I started in payroll back in the late 70’s the tech-
after. It was an entry level position but gave me the chance nology was simply paper— All colour coded for purpose! The
to enter the payroll field. Over the next several years I worked payroll system at the time offered employers a system with
there as a Customer Service Representative, then as a trainer, 15 earnings and 30 deductions. Compare that to what em-
I then did a short stint in Marketing, and even some custom ployers can choose from today – everything is so much more
report programming. It was a great opportunity to be exposed robust and customizable, no more paper and desktop apps have
to a variety of businesses, small and large, and see what support moved to cloud-based programs to access to your payroll data
they needed to pay their employees. In 1997, with the year 2000 from anywhere. Plus, there has been a shift in focus to Human
coming down the pipe, all the banks were “getting out of the Capital Management with payroll becoming an integral part
payroll business.” ADP took the opportunity to buy the business of the total picture.
from them, which is when I formally joined ADP. As with technology, so goes the complexity of payroll.
ADP doubled in size overnight, bringing the technology, Reporting requirements, tax form codes, complex calcula-
clients and employees over. I remained in the training depart- tions to arrive at accurate net pay and ROEs are all so much
ment during that transition period until moving to a product more complex than when I first started in payroll. That level
While the payroll community was busy celebrating National Payroll Week,
the Association was also sharing some important new findings uncovered
in the Annual Survey of Working Canadians.
This survey, which the Association conducts every year, revealed interesting findings nearly two years into the
COVID-19 pandemic about how working Canadians are handling their finances, and how payroll can help.
What we found was, despite the economic challenges that COVID-19 brought about, for millions of working
Canadians who have remained on payroll since March 2020, the pandemic seems to have been a financial windfall.
This is because those who have worked from home have been spared considerable costs. Commuting, childcare
and many forms of discretionary spending – like going to the movies, attending sporting events, or eating in a
restaurant – disappeared. As a result, many are better off financially than they were before. In fact, fewer are living
paycheque-to-paycheque than at any time in the past 13 years. This is great news! But the gains could be at risk.
As offices prepare to re-open and the rules that have spared us many discretionary expenses start to relax, the
question is whether the gains made during the pandemic will give way to a ‘new normal’ that includes a return to
overspending and the overuse of credit.
Beyond personal impacts, the survey reveals that when workers are financially stressed,
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they are distracted, less productive, and more likely to leave their job.
The good news is that there are tangible actions that businesses can take to improve
and maintain their employees’ financial wellness – and payroll can play a big role in this.
First and foremost is implementing and educating employees on ‘pay yourself first programs’ that empower em-
ployees to automate their savings. That way, when payday comes, they don’t have to worry about making conscious
decisions to save, it’s already done!
So payroll community, don’t be afraid to share your expertise to help fellow employees get ahead financially.
You are uniquely positioned to help others improve their financial position, so share your expertise and knowledge
generously. n
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THAN THEY
WERE BEFORE % of working Canadians are spending less
than their net pay in a typical pay period, an
THE PANDEMIC. all-time high and an increase of 11% since 2019.
2019> 11%
5%
more than their net pay — a number cut
in half since 2013.
36%
are living
paycheque-to-paycheque
37 %
(fewer than at any time doubt they’ll be able to continue
in the past 13 years) their savings habits post-COVID
43%
admit that making the minimum
payment on debt prevents them saving
money – and the same percentage
“feel overwhelmed by debt.”
3
issues concerning Canadians when it
TOP comes to the economy are inflation (67%),
housing costs (56%), and higher interest
on mortgages (55%)
24 • DIALOGUE • Volume 43, Issue 5
This decrease in spending has enabled working Canadians
to save more and increase their financial resilience.
IMPACT
MORE THAN
48
shared that they put more
40 % %
than 10% towards savings
34 % 2019
79
(In 2019, 44% of
Crystal Agombar
Week 2021 day and I’m always learning new things.
I’m a detailed person and a bit of a
perfectionist so it’s a perfect job for me to
National Payroll Week 2021 is now in the pay people accurately and on time! Until
books and the payroll community certainly the pandemic happened, I didn’t view my
took the opportunity to engage, share and job as frontline like nurses and doctors,
celebrate all of the vital contributions of the but Payroll is important because everyone
profession. still needs to get paid on pay day! This is a
From September 20-24, thousands of job that I feel will always be needed and
members and non-members gathered vir- there is never a dull moment!”
tually to enjoy a series of inspiring virtual
speakers and electric Canadian entertain-
ment. Not only that, together we managed
to raise $39,000 for Anxiety Canada, this
year’s charitable partner!
After a nail biting competition, Chantelle
Forest was named our Payroll Powerhouse
champion, displaying a sincere passion for
Natalie Opper
payroll. But we saw so many amazing con- “I love working in Payroll as I get to
tributions from so many other payroll pro- guide employers on how to be loved
fessionals from coast to coast that made us by their employees. I do this by making
proud of all that payroll is and does. it easy for employers to pay employees
Take a look at some of the inspiring mes- accurately, consistently, and on time.
sages shared from your community about People should think about choosing
the meaning, resilience and dedication of payroll because this is a rewarding
payroll, especially over the past two years: industry that isn’t going anywhere!”
Carolyn Jourdain
“What ignites my passion in payroll is “The one thing I truly think cannot be
the accomplishment of a job well done. interrupted no matter what is payroll.
It’s not an easy task especially when A pandemic may install a sense of
system issues or even human error panic, but employees not being paid
comes into play. But with continuous on pay day? That would set a general
improvement in holistic knowledge panic; no discussion. I remember an
building and motivating my team employee telling me it would have
towards a similar approach we can all been understandable to be paid late
produce a quality of work that we can in March 2020. I told him straight,
all be proud of, as 10,000+ employees Not on our watch.”
and their families are counting on us.”
“In this past year, I’ve discovered I can “We don’t know what one individual
Keira Meldrum
Suzette Ramirez
handle a lot more than I ever thought is going through especially in their
I was capable of. I’ve been working financial aspect, and paying them on
fully remote, and taken on the project time and accurately makes a big impact
of helping develop a new HRIS system, to their personal life. Knowing that they
all while parenting, getting a child are paid on the work done will result
through Kindergarten, volunteering, and in a happy and motivated working
navigating through this pandemic. Every attitude. Each individual has their own
time I didn’t think I could take on any responsibilities personally and to their
more, I somehow did and made it work. family and community, and as a payroll
Just have to remember to take deep professional, our responsibility is to pay
breaths and do one thing at a time.” them in a timely, accurately manner.”
“Personally I feel very proud being “My first day on my new job was the first
Reena Shah
Angela O’Hara
recognised as a part of Payroll day when the whole province shut down.
Association, contributing to the financial I learned my job online, and what I did
wellness of employees by ensuring they not learn online, I figured out myself. This
are paid correctly, accurately and on was really challenging. I was given a lot
time. In our fast-paced society, it is very of responsibility as I was the only one
important that employees have the in payroll. Now was my time to step it
confidence knowing their pay deposits up to learn the job and keep up to date
are in their bank ready to pay their with all the employment standards and
bills for them to focus on enjoying life! legislation changes. I succeeded and
Employees trust is biggest strength as a this restored my confidence that I can do
payroll person.” anything I set my mind to.”
After emigrating from China, Yen Wang knew she needed a constantly seek process improvement opportunities.
change in career. She was able to find her next step in payroll,
but realized in order to climb to a managerial position, she was Editor: How would you say the CPM designation has helped
going to need to further her education. This pursuit led her to your career?
the Canadian Payroll Association where she decided to earn Yen: The CPM designation gave me a great sense of accomplish-
her CPM. ment and opened doors for better opportunities. I have gained
the respect and trust from all levels in multiple organizations
Editor: First of all, Yen, can you tell us a bit about yourself? over the course of my professional career. I was promoted to
Yen: When I landed in Edmonton 20 years ago, I wasn’t sure a managerial role a few years after being certified as a CPM.
what would lie ahead for me after giving up my teaching career
in China. After months of soul searching, I concluded that it Editor: What are the biggest changes you’ve noticed in your
was time for me to try something different. roles, from working as a payroll administrator to becoming a
I decided to go back to school. I earned my business diploma payroll manager? Are there any parts of your current role that
with honors in 2004. After graduation, I was fortunate to land are particularly rewarding?
my first job as a Payroll Administrator. Within six months of Yen: It was a big step to me when I moved into a managerial
holding a junior level position, I realized that in order to be a role. From being a team player to a manager, it’s no longer about
top performer in the workplace, I was going to need to fur- myself, it’s about bringing out the best in others. At the same
ther my education. A few years later I received my CPM and time, being a manager means that I need to let go of the more
other benefits related certificates, I was promoted to a Payroll technical aspects of my job to refocus my expertise on leading and
Supervisor position. I am currently working as a Payroll and
coaching others to develop the skills that I’ve already mastered.
Benefits Manager at YMCA of Northern Alberta.
There are so many rewarding aspects associated with my
Editor: When did you earn your CPM certification and what current role as a Payroll and Benefits Manager. I particularly
made you decide to pursue it? enjoy the opportunity to mentor others, foster a sense of be-
Yen: I earned my CPM certification in 2008. I realized that longing, and lead continuous process improvement.
continuing education would keep me relevant in the ever-
Editor: What would your advice be to someone who is con-
changing payroll world.
sidering pursuing their CPM certification?
Editor: What were some of the learnings you found particularly Yen: Never stop learning. Learning creates a lifetime of op-
interesting in your CPM courses? portunity and gives you the drive to explore challenges and
Yen: What really stood out to me about the CPM courses was opportunities. Pursuing your CPM certification and attending
learning how to effectively manage a payroll department and Canadian Payroll Association webinars and conferences will
how to benchmark best practices. These learnings gave me the pay off by allowing you to bring a new perspective to your
confidence and expertise to build high-performance teams and organization, which could lead to advancement opportunities. n
As we all begin to shift back into our old (or begin completely new)
routines, it can be easy to let things slip off of our list of priorities. If
you’re returning to the office and/or getting kids to school you may
find yourself needing to get up earlier to make time for morning
commutes, breakfast, shower schedules, and all of the to-dos that
had become less time sensitive over the past year and a half. While
schedules may need to be adjusted to fit it all in, one thing you
should try not to sacrifice is your sleep.
Sources: 2. Remove from the heat and let cool (the pumpkin
butter will thicken as it cools). Transfer to glass jars
HopkinsMedicine.org – The Science of Sleep
and keep stored in the fridge for up to one month
Canada.ca – Are Canadian adults getting enough sleep?
or in freezer safe containers for up to three months.
Medical News Today – Why Sleep is Essential for Health
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