Dust Sniper Quiet Extractor System
Dust Sniper Quiet Extractor System
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Step 3: Noise reduction - background information (and some theory you can skip) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
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BongoDrummer is founder and member of Flowering Elbow. He loves to learn about, invent, and make things, particularly from waste materials.
This project was borne out of my dissatisfaction with commercially available dust extractors. After a fair bit of research I purchased one of the more expensive 'quiet'
workshop vacuums, and was not happy with its performance (I sent it back unused after taking a dB reading of it). In exasperation at the dusty noisiness of it all, and
wanting to re-use materials and spend as little as possible, I began the Dust Sniper (DS) project.
This DS ended up costing about £20 total. So it is possible to reused a bunch of stuff destined for landfill and end up with an aesthetically pleasing and useful tool-
workbench. And of course we can learn loads about sound, cyclones and dust related jazz along the way. Because the DS's parts are mostly recycled, there is no
comprehensive list of materials up front, instead I will give tips as we go along suggesting possible reclaimed bits that will do the job and where you might find them (if
you don't care why we chose certain materials and just want a 'scavenging list', check out the last step).
I'll throw it out there to begin with, most dust extractors are bad. Even the expensive ones, like the Festool, extract a continuing fee, needing regular bag and filter
changes to keep working properly. The less expensive, well... lets just say they can be seriously bad for your mental and physical health, as you will find out if you follow
along with this Instructable.
The Dust Sniper (DS) is effective and very quiet - the two main goals I had when starting this project. It does, however, fulfil these requirements at a cost. Namely, it is
very heavy and big (compared to your average canister style vac), so it won't be perfect for everyone. This isn't necessarily the disaster you might think though. In fact it
can be darn right useful if we use the DS as a mobile work surface. That way we will end up with nice clean air, a quiet place to create our mad jazz, and a super sturdy,
rollable worktop thrown in! Ideal if you are still setting up a workshop, as I am.
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1. The old drop box setup, accompanied by the famous sidekick, Mess.
2. This connected up to a (noisy) vacuum, which needed constant bag
changers, grrrr. Its filtration was also unhealthily inadequate.
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1. The Dust Sniper (DS) - noiseless extractor and work surface. It has two hose
outlets and an automatic switch/power feed for power tools.
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1. Control panel, power tool socket, and vacuum hose ports.
2. Double cyclone separation area.
3. Solid work surface.
4. Vacuum housing: contains noise reduction treatment for incoming and exiting
air, and double box isolation.
Lots of noise is bad. As anyone who reads the FE blog will know, I am particularly fastidious about cutting down on noise (see for example, my quest for the quietest
bandsaw). I can think of a load of good reasons for my desire for quiet tools, but probably the most important, and one that anyone using power tools should take
seriously, may be gleaned from the following:
"The first handicap due to noise-induced hearing loss to be noticed by the subject is usually some loss of hearing for high-pitched sounds such as squeaks in
machinery, bells, musical notes, etc. This is followed by a diminution in the ability to understand speech; voices sound muffled, and this is worse in difficult
listening conditions. The person with noise-induced hearing loss complains that everyone mumbles. High frequency consonant sounds of low intensity are missed,
whereas vowels of low frequency and higher intensity are still heard. As consonants carry much of the information in speech, there is little reduction in volume but
the context is lost. However, by the time the loss is noticed subjectively as a difficulty in understanding speech, the condition is far advanced." (p146 Engineering
Noise Control)
Ok, so dust often equals more noise. How ironic that adding a dust extractor can be so noisy then. Lets leave 'noise' at that for now - for more noise related background
and nerdy theory, checkout step 8.
Actually aside from helping along hearing loss, dust can cause bigger problems. At this point I am going to go ahead and assume that everyone is comfortable with the
idea that dusty lungs are bad and to be avoided. The problem is most people don't realise just how dangerous dust is, especially to us lone inventors, DIYers, and
makers, who do not have the protection of government legislation, which enforces air quality standards* in factory and workplace environments.
At home, people tend to use cheap and ineffective extraction systems and/or pathetically inadequate masks (or no protection at all). I must admit from time to time I have
been guilty of this, not wanting the noise of the vac or being in a rush - very bad! The precautionary principal should definately apply here. Particularly until you have
finished your DS, a good dust mask, goggles and ear defenders are your friends! For more info on dust and health check out this post on The Dangers of Wood Dust and
this table of wood dust toxicity levels.
*It is interesting to note how these standards are constantly being raised, as more research is done on the effects of wood dust. See, for example, Jette B. Lange,
2008 "Effects of wood dust: Inflammation, genotoxicity and cancer"
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1. Dust must be eradicated because it is in cahoots with noise. Both are EVIL!
2. The Dust Sniper (DS) doing its thing.
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Step 3: Noise reduction - background information (and some theory you can skip)
So when I was building this, I spent a while researching about noise, sound and jazz, if you're into that kind of thing too read on... If you are a sound wizz already, look
away. If you are bored easily and/or just want to hammer things together you can skip it too.
Every school kid will tell you sound is basically the result of things getting excited and vibrating. Everything vibrates anyway, but if you do something like hit the table in
front of you (assuming there is one), you change the way it vibrates and it passes on that vibration to the air. In the air we can imagine a series of high and low pressures,
which in turn vibrate the internal gubbins of our ear - causing us to register what we call sound.
As with most subjective things in life we humans like to try and measure and quantify these vibrations. The quantity most often used to measure the “strength” of a
sound wave is the 'sound pressure level' (SPL or sometimes Lp, not to be confused with 'sound power level') measured with respect to a standard reference pressure of
2 ×10?5Pa.
SPL is expressed in dB (or Decibels) which are a logarithmic unit, so that for every 6 dB decrease in volume, the sound is perceived as being half as loud.
When an airborne sound wave encounters a solid blocking its path, it effectively bashes into it, the disturbance causes the solid to vibrate. This vibration is transmitted
through the solid. Now on the other side, the surface acts as a new emitter by disturbing the air and producing a new sound wave. By this process the sound effectively
passes through the barrier. The efficiency of the transmission depends on the physical properties of the solid in particular, its mass.
How much of the sound is blocked out? Well, if L1 dB is the sound pressure level on the noise source side of the partition and L2 dB that on the other side, then the
Sound Reduction Index (SRI) or Transmission Loss (TL) is defined as:
TL = SRI = L1 - L2 dB
The transmission loss, or SRI, varies with mass and frequency. In general the higher the frequency the better the sound is blocked, hence the higher the SRI will be.
There are exceptions to this when partitions start vibrating at their resonance frequencies. More on that later, for now all we need to know is that:
1. For precision work (or for special noises with a particular frequency content), the SRI index is quoted for particular frequencies, normally in octave bands.
2. For many purposes and for convenience, the SRI is quoted as a single number, which is the average SRI between the frequencies 100 – 3,150 Hz. The
resultant sound level is then quoted in dB(A). (A) presumably standing for average.
The so called 'mass law' simply states that by increasing the mass of a partition, we increase the transmission losses or SRI of the partition proportionally. So mass
is generally a good thing when we are trying to reduce sound (think about the useful properties of lead). The mass law however only applies to a given material, over a
specific range of frequencies. It could be, for example, that a deep bassy noise (low frequency) travels through a panel with very little reduction in volume even when you
increase the mass of a panel. Indeed it is often the case that low frequency noise transmission is more effected by the stiffness of a material.
Again, this all depends upon the material in question. A lead curtain's behaviour, for example, is essentially mass-law controlled over the entire audible frequency range.
For a more geeky explanation along these lines, check out "Engineering Noise Control: Theory and practice, Fourth edition, David A. Bies and Colin H. Hansen (2009)"
For us, the mass law is a good demonstration of the compromise we are going to make between light weight and sound reduction. "[We] should rule out the use of low
density fibreglass (such as insulation batts used in house ceilings), as well as typical polyester blankets. In fact polyester blankets are likely to be completely ineffective."
(Bies & Hansen, 2009 p 386). Although if we can compress them a lot and have them to hand anyway, it is a different story...
As with double or triple glazing, it is important not to have all the panes the same thickness, as this accentuates the dip in the TL (transmission loss) curve at critical
frequencies. The same goes for our purposes when we construct a double wall box. It is better to use different materials as well as thicknesses for the different layers.
That way we will block out a broader range of frequencies.
While preventing resonance by mixing materials and shapes is good, it is also well worth incorporating an air (or foam) gap, which prevents the direct transmission of
vibration. Vibration is easily transmitted to other materials by mechanical coupling - avoid if possible.
"Acoustic isolation is generally accomplished by providing as wide a gap between the panels as possible and by filling the gap with a sound-absorbing material,
while ensuring that the material does not form a mechanical bridge between the panels." (Bies & Hansen, 2009, page376)
Absorbing Sound
The nature of the surfaces on which the sound wave falls determines how much will be absorbed. Hard rigid non-porous surfaces like glass, marble or concrete, provide
the least absorption and are thus the best reflectors. Soft porous surfaces and those which can vibrate absorb more of the sound. When sound energy is absorbed it is
converted into heat energy, but this energy is very small so no need to worry about overheating caused by sound.
The amount of sound absorbed is proportional to the area of the material concerned. So if S is the sound absorbed and A is the area of the exposed material, we can say
that S is proportional to A. In general this means that rough surfaces are better at absorbing than finely finished ones. Further,
S = aA
The Absorption Coefficient is a number always less than 1 (because it has no units, it is a ratio) and is small for a material that reflects most sound and large for a
material that absorbs most of the sound incident upon it. It is determined by the amount of sound absorbed by a material divided by the sound energy arriving at the
surface (so a = absorbed sound energy / incident sound energy). Just for interest the table below (from the Sengpielaudio website) shows a bunch of absorption
coefficient values for various materials. As you can see, different materials are better or worse at absorbing different frequencies.
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linoleum/vinyl tile on concrete 0.02 0.03 0.03 0.03 0.03 0.02
fully occupied - fabric upholstered 0.60 0.74 0.88 0.96 0.93 0.85
Brick: unglazed & painted 0.01 0.01 0.02 0.02 0.02 0.03
Curtain: 10 oz/sq yd fabric molleton 0.03 0.04 0.11 0.17 0.24 0.35
Curtain: 14 oz/sq yd fabric molleton 0.07 0.31 0.49 0.75 0.70 0.60
Curtain: 18 oz/sq yd fabric molleton 0.14 0.35 0.55 0.72 0.70 0.65
Fiberglass: 2'' 703 no airspace 0.22 0.82 0.99 0.99 0.99 0.99
Glass: 1/4'' plate large 0.18 0.06 0.04 0.03 0.02 0.02
Sheetrock 1/2" 16" on center 0.29 0.10 0.05 0.04 0.07 0.09
Wood: 3/8'' plywood panel 0.28 0.22 0.17 0.09 0.10 0.11
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Acoustic Tiles 0.05 0.22 0.52 0.56 0.45 0.32
Fiberglass: 2'' 703 no airspace 0.22 0.82 0.99 0.99 0.99 0.99
Sheetrock 1/2'' 16" on center 0.29 0.10 0.05 0.04 0.07 0.09
Wood: 3/8" plywood panel 0.28 0.22 0.17 0.09 0.10 0.11
So you get the idea. Armed with all that knowledge you are ready to scrounge up some free materials and get building, right?
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1. They may look ridiculous, be uncomfortable and annoying, but when using noisy tools these are your friends, and your friend's friends when they come to help.
2. Dust will soon be no more, Bwahahahahaaaa!
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Step 4: Enclosure construction - material choice & general notes
On average, people in the UK trade their kitchen in for a new model every four to five seconds (I may have made that up) - that is a whole lot of kitchen worktops being
thrown out and replaced. Indeed, composite wood counter worktop seems to be one of the most commonest things to pop up in skips here there and everywhere. That
was of course, until I thought of using it to make part of the enclosure - being MDF'esque, dense, stiff and heavy, it should be a useful material for sound proofing. After
looking and incredulously not finding any kitchen worktop for some time ("Credit crunch curtailed peoples propensity towards kitchenocide, discuss."), freecycle came up
trumps and delivered an ample bounty of fire door material.
When I went to collect the two freecycle fire doors, they were actually getting rid of four of them (nice big heavy strong composite things), some kitchen worktop, and
some useful bits of hardboard too - score! I ended up using some of these bits to make the DS and having plenty to spare besides.
When it comes to making sound enclosures, those 'audiophiles' and DIY speaker builders are somewhat ahead of the game - by that I mean they are quite happy to try
experimenting with unusual materials and techniques and also perfectly willing to share their experience and knowledge. We can learn a fair bit from their build
techniques and material preferences.
Here are some things that speaker enclosure makers experiment with that you might be able to scavenge or otherwise get your hands on:
Plywood (without voids is best), mdf, hardboard, etc. All these laminated sheet materials are rigid and easy to construct into airtight enclosures - look out for them
turning up in skips.
Plasterboard - Used extensively in construction, can be laminated with acrylic latex-silicone caulk to provide very effective damping.
Sand. This is well known as a good dampener of sound, I used some of this in the DS and also to damp my bandsaw. Best of all it is free if you know where to
look (a beach might be a start, though in the UK it is technically not legal to just take stuff off beaches).
Oil based plasticine. This is the stuff that never really dries. I have no personal experience with this, but apparently it can be rolled into flat sheets and adhered to
panels to damp sound.
Scrap steel, can be used to stiffen up panels, and to change their resonant frequency. angle iron makes excellent bracing because it can easily be screwed (and
glued with damping glue).
1. Use lots of glue to make joints air tight. The reason for this is twofold: one, so that we can control the flow of air leaving the vacuums and make sure it is filtered
and clean, and two, so that no sound escapes. Even little cracks can make a big difference to the sound reduction index on an enclosure - think about a car
window - opening it just a little makes a big difference to the noise you can hear outside.
2. Ensure straight well fitting edges - all gaps must be filled.
3. MDF and chipboard resonate at averagely 150-400 Hz, with the strongest resonances usually at 250-300 Hz. All materials when they vibrate produce sound
waves, so If we don't brace it properly we may have small movements in sides of the DS, but because of the area involved even this could be quite loud.
4. We need to treat both structural borne sound (so called 'impact sound') and airborne sound. The first involves mechanically isolating any sources of vibration with
the main structure of the enclosure. The second, ensuring that we have good rigidity and mass.
5. As I already mentioned, when we add bracing to panels, we want to divide up the various panels into sections of unequal area. If not there is a chance that you
will have several panels with a common resonance frequency that will combine (and sound loud).
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Step 5: The Inner Enclosure
The inner box will not be bearing much weight, and to make the space usage sensible, it is not a massive construction of fire door or kitchen worktop material. Check out
the photos for build ideas.
"But won't the motors overheat if they are in an enclosure," I hear you cry. Hold on there, vacuum motors are something of a special case when it comes to cooling. They
blast all the air that they suck in through the motor windings (after passing it through a filter to remove the dirt). So long as any subsequent filters (post-motor filters)
remain unblocked, this system works perfectly, and means that vacuum motors can be much smaller than they would otherwise be, and wrapped in a
convenient insulative plastic case. Incidentally, this is why vacuum motors make very poor motors if we try and re-purpose them for anything other than air moving
applications.
For the DS this means that we need to keep a reasonable exit path open for the air being pumped out of the motor, and that we can expect warm to hot air to be travelling
this path (step 11 & 14 deals with this). But it also means that we don't have to worry about trying to blow in cool air to pass over the motor, the vacuums themselves do a
very good job of that already. Almost all vacuums are fitted with a heat sensitive safety switch, that will cut power if the motor is overheating. If yours has not, it is
probably worth adding one, or finding a different vacuum to use.
MDF warning:
MDF is typically about 9% urea-formaldehyde resin, it is the stuff that bonds it all together. When we cut it to size we effectively pump out a load of particles of this stuff.
Dust is a big MDF hazard (read the first few steps for the lowdown on dust badness). But there is another consideration, particularly if you are sensitive to formaldehyde,
and that is the long term 'off gassing' MDF does. Formaldehyde-free MDF does exist, but if we are scavenging our materials one must assume the worst. In this design
the 'off gassing' will hopefully be less of a problem as the inner box will be sealed in. In general though, you can control these emissions by finishing the surface with a
veneer or a sealing paint, and this is a good practice whenever you make MDF things that will be in living areas.
Lead warning:
Lead is great! It can practically be 100% recycled, has fantastical blocking properties, and is comic book style heavy. Lead is not good however, inside the human body! A
tiny bit inside, is way more than we want. Luckily it only really gets in there if we are careless. It is best to handle the stuff with thick gloves - you don't want to cut yourself
with lead! Wash hands before you eat after handling the stuff. Do not do anything that creates lead dust, unless you have the ultimate dust extractor (presumably
you wouldn't be making this in that case!), are wearing a quality ventilator and goggles, and have a way of properly disposing of the dust. I would advise against doing
anything that might make lead dust, and really you don't have to because it is so soft - it cuts with tin snips. Don't be tempted to melt it, unless you have the
correct safety equipment - the vapour is another way it can get inside you.
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1. This inner enclosure is the bit we are working on now
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1. This part of the board is going, as it seems to have had moisture damage.
2. These bits of mdf will make the two vertical sides of the inner box.
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1. After cutting to size with the jigsaw, I clamp them together and plane the four 1. Two more bits are cut and planed to make a top and bottom. Here is one (the
edges, so they are flat and smooth, and exactly the same dimensions. bottom) rigged up temporarily to check the sizing... It is about right, just enough
room around the edges for some spiky foam (and possibly a thin layer of lead!).
2. After doing the SketchUp design it is nice to make a 'cutting wish list' and stick
it up for reference.
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1. Screwed and glued back together. Clamps help too.
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1. The gap at this side needs to be the same so the front can fit on and seal up
nice.
2. Labelling helps!
3. Glued and screwed.
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1. Running out of freecycle MDF meant joining these bits to make the part of the 1. Checking out the sizing - just enough room for the spiky foam I have in mind,
back - no probs as long as we get a good joint and a complete seal. and the two vacuums.
When we incorporate obstacles into the air stream, we add resistance to its flow. To maintain necessary airflow, most silencers have to increase the cross sectional area,
so enough air can run through - making them quite bulky. This tortuous path or baffle system has the same problem.
There are many different designs to reduce sound that is transmitted through airflow passages: reflective, reactive, diffusive, depressive and active. Quick and concise
description of different types of silencers can be found here.
For the dust sniper, the back of the inner box is where I made the baffle arrangement. I wanted to keep the two exhaust streams separate so it consisted of two paths,
created by fire door off-cuts (produced while making the outer box). It ended up being damped by a sealed off panel of sand (see the pics and descriptions for build info).
Another consideration is that sudden changes in air pressure can be noisy - the sound of a vacuum usually increases when we put a crevice nozzle on the end for
example. We can extend the changing pressure gradient though, by breaking the exhaust stream into a series of outlets - the same style of thing that you see on a big
motorbike exhaust with lots of holes in.
"Such a device has been shown to accomplish by itself, without any additional muffling, a 10 dB insertion loss in broadband noise in a steam-generating plant
blow-out operation." (p434).
So that seems like a good idea, assuming the air coming out is making much noise...
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1. I had to join two pieces of the mdf to make a bit big enough to cover the back
of the inner box.
2. One side piece
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1. These are fire door offcuts from the outer box. They will be useful as they
provide an even thickness.
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1. Side pieces on and a central divide, to keep the air streams separate.
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1. Glue clamping and screwing on the side pieces.
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1. air stream 2 will enter here and travel right.
2. air stream 1 will enter here and go left.
3. air stream 2 will exit here.
4. air stream 1 will exit here.
5. foam and the rough edges will absorb some sound.
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1. scramble about a bunch of off-cuts to see what looks good in a maze stylee.
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1. The air entry holes are routed out about 75mm diameter should do fine. 1. Exit holes routed in the thin panel.
2. This may be thin but will be a composite sand panel when we are done - a
nice sound deadener.
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1. Glued in some bits of old drainpipe I salvaged to prevent air from blowing the 1. The pipes are cut so they stick above the steel panel. This will give us a lip to
sand about. attach tubing to.
2. Some bits of foam in the middle should help to maintain the shape of the steel
panel.
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1. Ready to go. Again it is important to have continuous bead seal. 1. Screws go through the steel, foam, thin wood, and secure the lot together
onto the tortuous path's outer.
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1. With an assistant to hold the funnel (or take photos), It is pouring the sand in
the top time. Weeee.
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1. Give it a good jiggle about till the sand fills all the gaps and leave just enough
room to put in your top bit of foam.
2. There is a secret maze in here, just waiting to waylay any stray sound!
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1. Top foam in, screwed and glued. A few knocks confirms it sounds completely
'dead' - excellent. Here is our back panel with its mighty Tortuous Path!
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1. The back panel squeezed on with the screws. 1. The bracing round the front is made to be continuous, so that the front panel
can rest on it without gaps.
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1. Cut a piece of ply slightly oversized for the opening. Then spend a while (ok
ages) planing the edges down a fraction of a millimetre at a time for a perfect fit.
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1. Once it fits, we can rout a 3mm channel round the edge. This will hold a
rubber seal (which I happen to have for my composite oak doors project).
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1. Ahh, satisfying picture-frame like front panel. I scrounged up some ply for this, 1. In you go seal...
having run out of mdf.
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1. Foam fitted and testing out the fit of vacuum number 1
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1. Here I'm sizing up some egg-crate foam to line the box for exrta sound-
dampening
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1. A friend salvaged these latches for me, from an old redundant tank he had
laying about. There was three of them, and they look like they will be ideal to
seal on the front panel.
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1. This seems to work very well. I screw one to the top of the box and the two
others go lower down on the sides.
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1. We have front panel sealability (and open-ability of course).
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Step 8: The Outer part 1 - Housing
The outer housing wants to be quite robust, as it will be functioning as a worktop/ multi-use-surface. This is all good as I have a few thick, heavy fire doors to make it
from. As a bonus when we make it massive, we are also helping to cut down the noise. I also have a quite delightful bit of scavenged teak to go on top (It was thrown out
by my university's science department and matches my current workbench, which has a similar ancestry).
As it is going to end up on the heavy side of hefty when it is all together, we are going to want some casters to get it mobile (ish - well like a gigantic lumbering titan of a
thing at least). As with the inner box, it also needs to be as sealed up and tight as possible, with no weak points for sound to leak out from.
To begin with I sized it up, based on the Sketchup 'plan' and got cutting. Being way too big to manoeuvre the doors through the bandsaw, and after some 'interesting'
jigsaw antics, I borrowed my friend's mighty fine circular saw for the job. This worked very well in combination with a clamped on bit of wood, that I knew was straight, as
a guide.
Similar to the inner box. We can prepare the individual pieces as best we can before sticking them together. It is a good idea to leave the lid off for easy access until after
we have finished all the insides.
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1. These may come in handy later for air exhausts. But for now, I need to cut
close to them, so need a level surface for the circular saw.
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1. Using an awesome borrowed circular saw (thanks Dave!), I was able to cut
nice straight lines in the fire doors to form the side pieces, base and back of the
dust sniper.
2. Clamping a straight piece of wood on allows us to do nice lines.
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1. Using the circular saw and a guide to cut the long base.
2. It is so cool to be able to use this cyclone now, to help build the rest of the dust
extraction system. It looks so great that I have a hard job not staring at it while I
am sawing - which leads to a few skewed saw lines, doh...
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1. A good start seems to be to make two side panels. By putting them together
side by side (closer than this) we can check them for accuracy.
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1. Lets face it, technical performance aside, particle board looks horrible and is
generally not human friendly (at least not for a romantic like myself). So lets
cover it up with some old scraps of oak. This one was an offcut from the great
double door project. It needs cutting to size and a quick plane but should do the
job.
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1. This piece is going to be the base, or bottom of the DS.
2. This one will need filling in later.
3. I am laying out in pencil where the side pieces will go.
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1. This is the side piece that separates the vacuum chamber from the cyclone 1. Mk1 and Mk2 cyclones are being measured and sized up for their new suit...
cabinet. Here we need two passages to take the air from the cyclone to the
forbidden cork forests (see step 16)
2. first drilled pilot holes with the drill press to ensure they were straight, before
using the holesaw on em.
3. Glorious modded super drill.
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1. The sides are on and it is taking shape. The inner box is approvingly trying it
out for size. Now for a lid and a removable front.
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1. Wherever the screw heads will not show, like here on the underside, I use
glue and screws.
2. These chair castors were way too small and insufficient. I ended up changing
them for some much beefier ones I found.
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1. I cut some 5mm deep groves in the lid, to accept the same rubber seal used 1. Hello well fitting front panel!
on the inner box.
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1. Finally getting round to sealing up that window in the bottom, we don't want it
leaking sound. It is filled with sand and a well fitting square of the last remaining
mdf is sealed on with hot melt glue.
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1. Glued, clamped, and screwed - Overkill stylee: that's the life of a 'front panel,
seal fitting onto, mabob'.
2. Lid Ho.
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1. To top it all off, later we will put a delightful teak work surface on here. 1. Old Aikido mat = good dense open cell foam = sound insulation.
2. And after all that we are paid off with ply lid and front fitting well together.
This is a 'dry assembly', we will glue the lid later.
3. Lead, waiting to be used.
4. Milk churn
5. T-shirt - it is hot..
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1. Some squiggly sealant to hold down your high density foam sir? Yes please.
2. This makes a good mechanical isolator, for the inner box to rest on.
3. This is the filter - we will come to that shortly.
HEPA stands for 'High Efficiency Particulate Absorbing (or Arrestance, or even Air filter, depending on who your talking to)'. Basically is is pretty much the best
commercially available air filtration of the sort that relies on the air passing through a fine mesh which catches the dust particles.
"The HEPA standard exceeds the MERV specifications because they are the only mechanical air filter with an efficiency of 99.97% at 0.3 microns. This makes
them at least 50% more effective than other types of mechanical air filters." http://www.hepafilter-pro.com/Filter_Ratings.php (For the grades of filter :
http://www.filtration-engineering.co.uk/air_filter_testing.htm).
So we have one of these babies to integrate into the DS. As this will be right by the air outlet, it needs to be heavily soundproofed to make our other efforts worthwhile.
Now is the time to deploy the lead!
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1. Absolute jackpot! Scored this large 30cm x 30cm x 8cm pleated HEPA filter 1. These kinds of scuffs may be a throw away signal for a big drugs company
from a big industrial company who considered it unfit for use because it was selling life or death concoctions in sterile clean rooms, but not really a problem
stored inappropriately for 6 months. for us.
2. It has exciting goo gel stuff round the rim too for a seal. Now we just need to
make an inlet that seals against this.
3. It has a steel wire mesh protecting the rather more delicate pleated filter.
4. It has a nice aluminium over mdf (that's a guess) frame. I sound quite dead
when tapped.
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1. Border is screwed and glued on. 1. This is finely sanded and sealed with a load of coats of PVA-water solution.
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1. These nice little portholes (scraps from the cyclone making process) will
make good duct joining points for our filter housing.
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1. This part of the fire door is destined for the side of the outer box which will 1. The large filter will fit over this area and seal against the side. After prising the
have air outlets. I am going to make use of the windows that are already there. window frames out on the inside, the glass is removed. Although probably not
necessary (as there is about a 1cm gap) I rout some channels to help with the
airflow. Bit of a mistake really: by the end, it had done a good job of blunting a
nice router bit :(
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1. We don't want any sharp edges for the blowing air to whistle on, so they are
quickly smoothed down with a little sanding drum and rotary tool.
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1. Oak sound guards installed and ready for action.
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1. I want the option to bypass the filter on hot days when I can pump the 1. Ok, time to put that lead to use in soundproofing the filter housing. The
exhaust air outside. This should increase filter life and help prevent the housing is only thin wood and we don't want sound to have an easy straight path
workshop overheating. These outlets were made with a standard holesaw. through the filter and out the exhaust holes of the outer box.
Step 10: The Outer part 3 - The Forbidden Cork Forest (or Air Intake Sound Proofing)
Unfortunately, despite the sound having to travel against the airflow created by the vacuums, the gaps needed for the air to come in will still leak a lot of sound. As
MahavishnuMan told me when I foolishly suggested the sound might be reduced by the inrushing air:
"...in order to "suck up the sound", your vacuum would have to breathe in air at a higher velocity than what sound travels, which is 1,127 ft/sec at sea level and
standard temperature and air pressure. Not only am I positive your vacuum doesn't suck at Mach 1, but if it did you would have a sonic boom loud enough to
crack the box."
So yeah, we need to 'treat' the air inlets so that we defeat the escaping sound. For this purpose I am experimenting with what I fondly dub the 'Forbidden Cork Forest'. It
is crucial that we don't add much to the air resistance, which is tricky when you are introducing obstacles to block sound.
The idea with the cork forest is that it will block sound with the sound absorbing 'trees' (the corks), while still presenting a smooth round aerodynamic surface for the air to
pass through with minimal turbulence.
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1. Initial idea brainstorming - layout round beams so that they easily pass air, 1. We have saved a lot of corks - they are of very variable quality. Some like the
but overlap to absorb and block sound. one on the left have damage from the cork screw. Others, like the right one, are
just plane rough and would add too much air resistance. We select only the finest
corks from virgin harvests, with skin as smooth as freshly picked rose petals...
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1. Prepping a bit of 'skip' board for the base. It wants to be nice and smooth.
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1. Clamping on the two edges
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1. The cork forest ready and awaiting trial
We can continue the theme of oak wood facing and make the control board and corner strut from some lovely scrap oak.
The cyclones themselves are the tallest part of this construction, and because we want the finished work surface to be no higher than our workbench, they need to sit
below the level of the DS's floor. This is not a problem because the castors raise it high enough that I can still unscrew and empty the dust containers.
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1. This is a fine material (considering it came from the skip), and would probably
cost a bomb if you wanted to buy it new.
2. Cutting it to correct panel size.
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1. Here you can see the cork forest joining to the outlet of the cyclone.
2. This bodged on washing up liquid bottle will be changed.
3. This section is going to be cabineted off.
4. The inner box is out at the moment.
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1. Using this wood clamped on as a guide I tidy up the bandsaw cut with a 1. This will be the oak control board. It fits up to the corner strut with a simple lap
router. Not strictly necessary, but nice. joint.
2. Testing for fit before joining - looks good. Just need to design and cut the
holes in the control board, and away we go.
3. The oak has some delightful figuring and rays to it... Pleasing.
4. Some panel doors will go here (eventually), to close off the cyclone area, and
keep in that little bit of 'air rushing about noise'.
The front of the DS gets some handmade catches - which are actually really simple - to hold it in place and compressed against its bubble seal.
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1. This butchered old tap took some getting off.
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1. Some general school science related scruffyness, but this should come out
nice.
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1. Some routing later...
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1. This hole is a bit inconvenient. But wait, if we flip it round and use it as a
viewing window...
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1. One new teak top.
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1. Most mesmerizingly beautiful.
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Step 13: The DS Auto Switch
So we want a switch that turns the DS on automatically when we start up our power tool, and then turns it off again when we are done making dust. Ideally it will switch
on just after the tool, so that the starting current of the power tool is not exacerbated by the simultaneous starting of the dust extractor. And when the power tool turns of,
we want the DS to stay on for a few seconds so that the hoses are cleared of any remaining dust.
There are a load of different ways to approach the auto switch circuitry. Here, for example, is an auto switch that uses commercial current detector. The cheapest I could
find the toroidal sensor component for this was for $50 so this was out as far as I was concerned. I wanted to make it without buying anything, using the odd bits and
bobs I had knocking about, so my design was a bit, hum, unusual. There are a load of alternative ideas for this in the resources section at the end.
If you want to try out my design, instead of using a current transformer, which seems the standard approach, we use a reed switch, activated by a very small coil in the
live power cable that supplies the power tool. The reed switch activates a relay, which in turn energises the heavy duty contactor, which is hefty enough to cope with
switching both vacuums on or off at once. If you want to do it this way follow the circuit diagram below, nothing is too complicated, expensive or difficult.
To make the coil, just wrap some 16 AWG (or fatter) magnet wire round something thin that is a similar size as the reed switch. I used the blank end of a drill bit, but be
careful not to scratch the enamel insulation (something plastic or wooden is better). To begin with I didn't even use magnet wire, just standard insulated wire, as you can
see in the pics, and it still worked OK. This way is not as sensitive though, because of the insulation gap. So if you want to use it with lower current draw tools as well,
magnet wire is better. About 13 turns is all you are likely to fit on the reed switch - that's fine.
The capacitor bank in the 6V relay circuit adds a delay to the switch, so that the DS stays on for a few seconds after the power tool is turned off. Having a capacitor
bank like this though, means that we need to add a resistor (or around 8KOhm) in series with the reed switch, to protect it from the inrush current when it is switched on
(without it the reed switch will weld shut). If you wanted to be a bit more elegant you could put together some kind of 555 time latch circuit, but I didn't have any 555s to
hand.
If you just want a very quick and dirty solution, just having the reed switch activate the AC contactor worked OK when I tested it. You will not get any delay, and the
motors will start together with this one, but it is very simple and it works (though how long the reed switch would last I can't say).
Components (circuit diagram below click the 'i' in top left to get full size):
Reed Switch - just one of a bunch I had laying round. It is about 1" in length, glass body, the coil goes tightly round this.
D1 - rectifying diode
D2 - rectifying diode
TR1 - a small step down transformer (to 6V) - time to use one of those 'wall warts' you have been saving.
C2 - 6.3V 4700uF (but just use what you have in your scraps box)
C4 - 6.3V 4700uF
C5 - 6.3V 4700uF
DC Relay - 6V DC relay, a smallish low current thing is what you want.
Contactor - Heavy duty contactor, I found this on a thrown out saw - these are useful for NVR applications.
R2 - 8.2KOhm resistor, important for protecting the reed switch.
C3 - a 0.22uF 275V AC capacitor
R1 - 330 Ohm resistor
B2 - a suitably beefy bridge rectifier
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1. This just rectifies the current going through the coil, to help prolong the life of
the reed switch.
2. about 8KOhms protects the reed switch from inrush current.
3. Capacitor bank, keeps relay energised for a few seconds after the tool is
turned off.
4. 6V DC relay
5. You could rectify like this or you could use a bridge, either way... Or you could
just use an all in one wall wart and let it use whatever rectification it likes...
6. 240V to 6V step down transformer
7. Main heavy duty contactor
8. Coil wrapped around a reed switch.
9. Diode helps protect against transients from the relay coil.
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what we want for this little relay I salvaged from an old circuit board.
2. This relay is activated by 6V DC. When turned on it will pass the 240V AC
used to energise the contactor coil.
3. Each of these capacitors are 4700uF. The three of them together make for a
delay of about 3 seconds before turn-off (in other words they can supply the
relay coil with power for 3 seconds).
4. This diode is used to help prevent transients.
5. This is the reed switch and coil. In the end, when I got some, I made the coil
from proper magnet wire.
6. 8.2KOhm resistor in line with the reed switch helps protect its contacts.
7. General testing mess!
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1. Live wire, off to supply the power tool outlet.
2. Neutral, to supply the power tool outlet.
3. This screw down junction box, is useful for organising connections.
4. The reed switch and coil.
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1. A condensed and taped up version of the previous photo. Relay, capacitor 6. The contactor. A Capacitor and resistor across the coil help to suppress
bank, transformer and the other little components are parcelled up (not the reed transient spikes.
switch and coil though - that is mounted separately).
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1. The reed switch in the coil of 15 AWG magnet wire. Or as I like to think of it,
'the flux capacitor'.
2. AC Live supply
3. Live that supplies the power tool socket.
Begin by making some real size sketches of how it might be on card and work from there. Of course, this control board would be a prime candidate for some laser
etching. Anyway, preparing the board can be a classic woodworking task: we need to drill and chisel some holes that will fit our sockets, switches, and air inlets. Make
sure to plan it all out carefully based on the switches you have acquired before setting mallet to chisel.
At this stage I also added in a 16A trip switch (that I was given when a neighbour was replacing their consumer unit). The fuse in the plug should give protection anyway,
but a little extra is nice. Once you have everything sorted, and tested carefully rout the cables and secure them so they are all neat and tidy.
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1. Main power isolator switch.
2. Power comes in at the back, just out of sight, in a nice industrial armoured
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cable I have been saving. Useful because the wheels have a tendancy to roll
over everything in their path.
3. Switches from 'on' to 'auto' (power out-take sensing).
4. This socket is the one that will trigger the DS if a power tool is used with it.
5. This socket just provides another convenient power outlet - it is not a DS
triggering one.
6. Both vacuums in their snug inner box
7. These are switches-to-be. The holes need drilling and chiselling out carefully.
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1. mmmm, hot choco!
2. Thread appropriate wires through ready for the socket.
3. The auto switch circuitry will get tucked away tidily before the DS comes on-
line for regular use.
4. A little round plug socket I salvaged. That means we will have one round and
one square, how perfect ;)
5. Holes and orifices are prepared and ready.
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Step 15: In Use, Evaluation, Maintenance
Lets evaluate the DS in relation to the design goals which were:
1) Effective removal of dust from hand-held tools and bandsaw
2) Little or no noise
3) Provide strong but wheelable work surface
1) The removal of dust thus far is excellent. The dust is sucked up and separated by the cyclones into the collection barrels. Because the separation efficiency is so good
suction remains very high - no regular cleaning filters or changing of bags required. Obviously the collection barrels need emptying occasionally, but being many times
bigger than a bag or standard shopvac canister, this is an easy and infrequent chore. Thus far, I have only had to change a vacuum bag after I got carried away and let
the barrel become full, which resulted in the dust quickly clogging up the vacuum bag and suction becoming very weak.
So yeah, it might be worth me trying to make some kind of warning sensor that tells me when the collection barrels are approaching fullness to avoid similar problems in
future. I already put a viewing window into one of the collection barrels, problem is that the static causes it to be obscured with dust, so that's little to no help. Some of you
have already made some good suggestions on how to overcome this little problem in the comments. Of course any other ideas are very welcome...
2) Noise wise I am better pleased that I expected to be. When the DS is all closed, shut up and operational, I can't really hear the noise of the vacuums at all! The noise
of the air rushing through the hose is pretty much all that is audible. So jackpot on the sound front. I can't tell you how nice it is to be able to clear up the shop and suck
up dust without a loud noise. It makes nice quiet, well balanced power tools more worthwhile ;)
Now bearing in mind there are many differing and complicated techniques of sound measurement, the audiophiles may want to look away now. In a blissfully and
probably horrifyingly simplistic manner, I used a mobile phone with an in-built 'sound meter' to do my measuring.
3) The work surface is nice, functional, and sturdy enough to dance on. I do need to add a breaking mechanism to the wheels, so that I can lock it in place better.
Parting Thoughts
The DS has been a long project for me, with plenty of help, research and tweaks needed along the way. Still, it has come together in the end and with any luck this
instructable will help you guys avoid some the mistakes I made. Already a number of you have said you will be making your own DS, so I look forward to feedback, build
photos, and areas of development. If it improves the working environment (and health!) of one of you, my fellow makers, hackers and craftspeople, then great!
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1. Typical DS application.The router takes power from the DS's auto switch
socket, so that dust is automatically pulled away during use - nice! The lamp is
plugged into the dumb power socket on the right.
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1. Keeping the hose lengths as short as possible reduces the air resistance.
2. Upturned belt sander is plugged into the 'auto socket'. Here it is being used
to help shape some oak for a wacky table/shelf project.
3. Green switch is lit, so we know the correct hose is selected. The other is just
blanked off for now.
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1. One big barrel load of dust - Thank you DS!
For more on extracting dust, modifying tools dust points, noise reduction, and a whole load of other bits'n'bobs check out my blog: www.FloweringElbow.co.uk
A decent discussion of cyclone dimensions, height to diameter ratio etc. based on knowledge of ginning cotton: Abatement of Air Pollution and Disposal of Gin Waste,
C.B. Parnell, Jr., E.P. Columbus, and William D. Mayfield. in Cotton Ginners Handbookedited by W. S. Anthony, William D. Mayfield (1994)
A doctoral thesis, by Jette B. Lange on the health dangers of wood dust. This contains a lot of references to good academic, peer-reviewed evidence and information -
very useful if you are keen to research this area further. Effects of wood dust: Inflammation, genotoxicity and cancer
A decent and comprehensive book, if a bit dry. (Amazon link): Engineering Noise Control: Theory and practice, Fourth edition, David A. Bies and Colin H. Hansen (2009)
A corporate (Silex) sponsored (but still worth a look) document on sound attenuation: http://www.silex.com/pdfs/Sound%20Attenuation.pdf
A Website called, 'Resonance Frequency'- more useful info from our speaker building friends - http://www.resfreq.com/usefulinfoonwood.html
Fine Woodworking article that describes construction of an automatic switch using commercial (expensive) current sensor.
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:8CwHui3lOdwJ:www.finewoodworking.com/FWNPDF/011143066.pdf+Fine+Woodworking+current+sensing+switch&hl=en&gl=uk&p
1BSk&sig=AHIEtbS2eSQxQ-xloBLiT3WRacLNzF-evA
An excellent patent of auto switcher that uses a home fabricated current sensor and a transistor. Has a good circuit diagram and a complete list of parts (towards the
end).
http://www.google.co.uk/patents?id=x7UiAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA5&dq=dust+Auto+Switch&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=3#v=onepage&q=dust%20Auto%20Switch&f=false
A very simple patent of a triac using auto switch - not idea because it is a current matching circuit http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5099157.pdf
A discussion on an electronics forum I started when I was considering my reed switch method: http://www.electronicspoint.com/advice-needed-auto-switch-design-
t225720.html
Bill of materials / things to look out for if you are planning a DS:
Enclosures: old fire doors, kitchen work top, scrap mdf, plywood, angle iron (bracing and joining), sand, lead sheet, thick steel (if you are a wizz with welding). Wood glue,
silicone and acrylic sealant, screws. Heavy duty castors, bubble seal (like you get for draft proofing doors and windows).
Internal: old vacuum (can often be found dumped or skipped, with nothing wrong other than dirty filters, or over full bags), old vacuum hosing (loads of these get thrown
out, here in the UK you will never need to buy it if you visit your council skip occasionally), compression latches, suitable sized barrels or other containers.
Electrical componants: this is mostly listed in the steps, but you should have no problem scavenging most items, although they will probably need 'rescuing' from old
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appliances.
Cyclones: This is the tricky part, look out for surplus or scrap polycarb from greenhouse constructions etc. May just be a case of buying the right sizes (I got mine from e-
bay). I have no personal experience with it, bur you might also consider PETG plastic for the cyclone. It is nearly as tough as Polycarbonate (Lexan) but is easier to
machine and apparently does not shatter with solvent even when under tension. The only real problem with the PETG, I am told, is that you need to buy the stress
relieved stuff or it bends all over the place when you work with it.
Cone:
0.75mm polycarb: 800mm x 800mm (cut and rolled up)
Air Inlet:
3mm polycarb: 210mm x 240mm (mitred into box)
Ramp:
1.5mm polycarb: 200mm x 200mm (cut into split circle)
Air outlet:
0.75mm polycarb: 200mm x 600mm (rolled into 75mm pipe)
[OR 160mm length of 75mm dia. pipe]
I have included the cyclone SketchUp files below. They can be made into SVG files (flightsofideas's ible shows how) if you want to laser cut or CNC them - if anyone
does this let me know how it goes.
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Or, alternately: isn't the interior of the bucket at below-atmospheric pressure? The tube could be connected to 'outside' air though a small hole. When the
bucket is not yet full, airflow into the bucket keeps the tube below atmospheric. When the bucket fills past the tube, airflow stops. Let's see if I can attach a
sketch of this idea... I can't decide if it'd be horribly finicky and impossible to implement, or if it would be perfect and elegant. :)
Electronic pressure sensors are around $15 new but maybe there's a good junk source for them...
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bongodrummer says: Feb 7, 2011. 1:46 AM REPLY
Hi Wiml,
Interesting ideas, thanks! Things are complicated a bit because the storage barrels themselves are in a partial vacuum (which fluctuates depending on
whether the end of the vacuum hose is blocked or partly blocked). It is necessary to maintain the seal on the barrel so that the cyclones work right. My
feeling is that adding another 'not-very-strong source of vacuum' would open a whole can of worms (big malicious ones at that).
An interesting idea though, thanks for sharing.
Any kind of optical sensor inside the barrel would be obscured just like the window, and other sensors are out because of the static. But yeah - weight would
probably work.
I am not sure I am understanding you with this. The barrels 'float' off the floor, so that the DS can be wheeled around. They are screwed onto the base of
the cyclones - their lids are firmly attached so the cyclones and everything remain stable.
Or did you mean putting the scales inside the barrels? That might work, if they were inside some kind of plastic bag - but then again the partial vacuum
created would probably disrupt readings...
But also consider: my Handbook of Hardwoods claims the weight of European Oak usually falls in the range from 640kg/m3 to 820kg/m3,
having an 'extreme but possible' range of 600 to 900kg/m3. And that is within one species. Pine is often round 500kg/m3. That in mind, I
think density issues would be worth considering with the weighing approach. If you calculated in a good safety margin though, I expect it
would work fine as an indicator - barrels don't have to be full before we empty them after all.
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bongodrummer says: Jan 15, 2011. 3:12 AM REPLY
Agreed.
Thanks, again for the great write-up. I've just bought some Lexan and am trying to build my own cyclone dust extractor using the information in you;r write
up.
You wrote that you are using a hot melt glue gun to glue together the lexan when it is rolled up. I have been trying this but I an finding it very difficult to
squeeze the glue out, and roll the plastic up into the right shape before the glue sets up hard again. Do you have any glue-related hints?
I have been debating using some epoxy resin (Araldite). I've have great results with this before, and it allows more working time, but I haven't tried it on
lexan. Do you know if Araldite would work?
Thanks,
Adam
Good stuff.
In regards to the gluing, it is best to roll up the shape you want first. Once it is in the correct position, hold it there with a little masking tape. Now for the
inside of the cone (I presume it is the cone you are struggling with?), you can peel back a little flap, and run the glue gun's nozzle inside the seam,
making a nice long bead. Let the flap close and press the parts together. Should work well like that. For the outside seam, I did it in stages - undo a bit of
masking tape near the top, pull back making a flap and inject some glue under it, hold together till set, then move on to another bit, etc. When you are
done and the cone shape is secure, you can run one continuous bead along the outside seam, to ensure air tightness.
Of course all this would be easier if you can borrow an extra pair of hands for a few seconds to hold the cone for you while you glue it.
As you mentioned you will have bad luck applying the glue then trying to wrap up the shape, because the glue will have set before you have it aligned
correctly.
I am not sure about araldite, I have a feeling that it might eat away at the Lexan, and/or make it brittle and discoloured - if you want to try it, best bet is to
use some offcuts you don't need first and see what it does.
Hope that helps, any more questions, just ask. Take your time with it and let us know how it goes.
DIY-ers face an unrecognized risk; because no one oversees their safety, they may be exposed to chemicals without adequate ventilation, which can also
increase hearing loss, both on their own, and in combination with noise. Carbon monoxide and other asphyxiants, solvents (such as you might find in
carpentry stains and varnishes, cleaners, degreasers, etc), and pesticides can all increase your risk.
If you have a hobby that's noisy or fumy, keep things ventilated, get regular breaks, invest early in hearing protection (much, much cheaper than hearing
aids!), and start getting your hearing tested on a regular basis. Even a fairly basic screening (by an audiologist) can indicate the early signs of hearing loss.
Find an audiologist who knows something about hearing conservation for best results, and explain to them your concerns. And recreational noise affects
hearing too; if you can turn it down, turn it down!
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bongodrummer says: Jan 12, 2011. 2:46 AM REPLY
Thanks for the info - go for it and write an instructable, I can add a link from this one ;)
Sounds like it could be worth pursuing though. Any ideas for cheap/salvageable sources? My first thought was the car alarm doodars that clip on inside
at the edge of the windscreen - probably plenty of them floating around at scrap yards or still in cars with alarms that have been permanently disabled or
taken out. Would that be any good? Other ideas?
I still want to try the simple idea of using grounded antistatic bags over the viewing window (as MadScott and wingman358 suggested).
Bearing in mind that the big filter comes after the vacuum's filters, and has an absolutely enormous surface area, it should be in there a good long time
(at least a number of year). I can see the vacuums wearing out before the filter needs changing. When the time comes, it will be a case of unscrewing the
lead sheeting that holds it in, pulling it out and putting a new one in.
Once the ping pong ball hits a certain height, then you hit a limit switch and turn on a light, or a buzzer, or just check the handle position occasionally.
You would only need the float to check the last 20-30% of the collection bin height.
Nice instructable.
A bit of a laugh. Last time I told someone I'd do something when I got around to it, he promptly handed me a rountuit. A wooden circle with rountuit
written on it. I've since passed it on.
1) a float like you have in your toilet - maybe using a ping-pong ball or something like that. I'm not sure how well this would work, but if your bins are in a
fixed position, this may be a more ideal solution.
2) a scale - just grab a few springs and a maybe lever and a bin full of sawdust. Mark points for empty, full and maybe a few intermediate marks. If you use
the lever style you could have a dial, or you could just hook a marker to the spring and have a linear gauge.
Those are the two things that popped into my mind first. HTH!
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bongodrummer says: Jan 9, 2011. 12:29 PM REPLY
Hay Srilyk,
Thanks for your kind words, and suggestions.
I think 1) would be tricky, because there is still the problem of actually seeing the ping-pong ball or whatever you put inside the collection barrel. I am
afraid I don't really understand idea 2). A scale would be nice - but how to prevent the lever from just being berried by the sawdust? I'm sorry, I probably
completely misunderstood this one?
There are at least two approaches to solving this problem. Either fix the static cling issue or try some other sensor idea.
Static charges form typically due to the triboelectric effect (think socks on a carpet). Since plastics are on one end of the triboelectric series and glass
on the other, I would try replacing the window with glass. I'm no expert but glass might avoid a static charge accumulation.
Furthermore, since static charges accumulate only on an insulating material, you might try grounding the surface with a grid of wire. The grounded
wire would neutralize any charges, thus avoiding static accumulation.
Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Static_electricity specifically the Removal and Prevention of Static Electricity section for more ideas.
The float would work like the one in your toilet, attached to a switch or valve or something. I don't know if it would have a tendency to get buried in
dust, though, so I'm not sure how well it would work.
For the scale idea you would attach the springs (or whatever) to the outside of the bin, or to a plate underneath it. Taking apart (or searching Google
for parts of) an old spring powered scale should give you some pretty good ideas.
I just had another thought. After reading your blog it looks like you're not too scared of electronics - you could probably find an old digital scale
(maybe on freecycle?) and wire that up to either light up a bulb or just cut off your vacuums - can't use up a lot of filters if you can't suck any more ;)
If you wanted to go 'all out' something like that to cancel out the noise of the air rushing into the end of the hose (which is the only real source noise when
the DS is running), might be cool - if a little overkill.
Also you comment about the intake noise made me realize that most of the noise (besides the motor) is from air turbulence, and doing things like
making smooth transitions in and out of the areas where the air is being pumped might help quite a bit.
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karnold70 says: Jan 10, 2011. 4:48 AM REPLY
Completely awesome use of second-hand parts. Can hardly wait to make one of my own.
So yeah, it might help depending on your system, but is certainly not ideal.
Thanks
Titus Andronicus d'Uxass
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jordan.pollard says: Jan 9, 2011. 6:44 AM REPLY
Fantastic instructable!!!! Way to go!
It looks like some of your components were 3D modeled? Can these be uploaded or did I miss that here?
_jp
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