Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2029 ICC Champions Trophy

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The result was delete‎. I read the "TOOSOON" arguments as "this subject will likely be notable but has no coverage at present", per Joseph2302, and that argument clearly has consensus. Nobody has shown that the subject meets GNG, or even that there is sufficient material for a standalone article. This AfD is no bar to recreation when more material is available, but is consensus against recreation without substantive material. Vanamonde93 (talk) 18:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2029 ICC Champions Trophy

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This is rather supposed to be a redirect but checking the history will tell you that there are editors who keeps reverting the restoration of the redirect, the very last restoration of redirect was done by me and mine was just reverted by the same user. This is way WP:TOOSOON to qualify for a standalone page right now. Fails WP:GNG, etc. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:14, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports, Cricket, and India. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:14, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: WP:TOOSOON; Draftify at least. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 08:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as WP:TOOSOON. I oppose moving to draftspace, as draftspace is not an indefinite holding area, and it will be 2+ years (probably longer) until more information is known. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify: I don’t see WP:TOOSOON is a valid reason for deletion in this instance. According to WP:FUTURE, notable and highly likely future events should be included (such as 2032 Summer Olympics). Given that the venue has already been confirmed, the article could simply be updated or moved after the 2025 edition concludes or closer to that time and so I strongly oppose deletion.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 09:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. WP:TOOSOON. Way down in the future for year 2029 and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, nor is it a collection of unverifiable content. RangersRus (talk) 04:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom. Shrug02 (talk) 00:18, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

how WP:CRYSTAL applies here when the event is already announced? FuzzyMagma (talk) 10:54, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I am not sure if WP:TOOSOON applies to such a big event. We already have a page for the 2030 FIFA World Cup and 2034 FIFA World Cup. It is about coverage from independent sources at least for the announcement of the event, and maybe the ongoing preparations. I can see that 3 out of the 4 sources are from the ICC but the event is mentioned in Times of India, SportStar, Free Press Journal, India Express, Sky, The Nation, The Sporting News, and Hindustan Times. FuzzyMagma (talk) 10:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@FuzzyMagma: because, it's only the year and hosts that have been confirmed. Qualification and Format haven't been announced yet and could change, thus they are just speculations so, WP:CRYSTAL. Unlike, 2034 FIFA World Cup which at least has more confirmed stuffs rather than speculations. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 13:12, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A wrong understanding of WP:CRYSTAL it seems. There is no requirement that the qualification process or format for future events must be announced in advance for the article to be standalone. Speculation is unfounded, as these competitions are based on clear qualification rounds and verifiable outcomes. — MimsMENTOR ^talk 09:04, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All of those sources listed above are passing mentions of the 2029 tournament existence in articles mostly dedicated to the 2025 tournament or wider issues like Pakistan/India match hosting. None of them are [[WP:SIGCOV]. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Please note that WP:CRYSTAL doesn't apply here, as the event has been announced by reliable, verifiable sources; no speculation involved. And while WP:TOOSOON is a useful essay, it does not overrule WP:GNG and other guidelines when it comes to deletion criteria. Please focus on the notability of the event based on sources, rather than your preference as to when it should be added here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 19:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment to clarify my point in the way that the relister wants: it is way too soon for there to be significant coverage of this event, as the only known information is the host country (the announcement of which is WP:ROUTINE coverage). Therefore, it does not pass WP:GNG and is unlikely to do so for a few years, and thus should be deleted. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:29, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as WP:TOOSOON.Will be made when the event occurs.Gauravs 51 (talk)

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