Talk:Ark (WFC)
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I'm confus. Why is this article separate from the main Ark article? -Derik 15:07, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
- Different continuity family? --ItsWalky 15:14, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
- ...Exodus wasn't Generation One?
- Whatchutalkin' about Willis? -Derik 15:50, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
- Massively Geewunny as it is, Exodus and WFC have been said by Hasbro to be part of the Prime continuity family. - Chris McFeely 16:01, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
- Very well, I accept this provisional classification.
- But if Prime fails to distinguish itself from G1 more than WFC and Exodus do, I think we're going to need a new term for "G1, but not part of the G1 Franchise" like BW. Ultimately the proof has to be in the pudding; 'continuity families' are our imaginary Linean constructs which don't exist in the Multiverse. If Prime is G1, we should call it G1. What's published so far is G1-- the book and the game fail to qualify it for another continuity family. We are essentially taking Hasbro's word on faith and assuming that the TV series will differentiate itself further from G1 to the point that it becomes its own 'entity.'
- I cam content to suspend judgment. (It's easier to fold articles in than break them out, after all.) -Derik 16:17, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
- If you've seen anything of the cartoon, it's pretty much the Movie crossed with Animated, in terms of aesthetics, with a story set after "events like the movie". - Chris McFeely 16:31, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
- It has an Allspark Cube, meaning it isn't G1 in any meaningfully accurate sense of the word. --Thylacine 2000 17:16, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
- "'continuity families' are our imaginary Linean constructs which don't exist in the Multiverse"
- Universal clusters. And "Linnaean" doesn't have meaning outside biology. —Interrobang 17:27, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
- Not to mention Gigantion, Velocitron, Barricade, Blackout, Lugnut, Armada Demolishor, Scattershot, enough Constructicons to form a herd of Devastators and Slipstream. It's not being dubbed an amalgated continuity for nothing. And the 13, whose story take place between the timelines branch... Alientraveller 17:30, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
- It was my impression that Universal Clusters were every bit as arbitrary a classification scheme as our continuity families, and don't represent anything intrinsic to the structure of the Multiverse. Am I wrong?
- Also, the Allspark rests in/under the Well of All Sparks, which is (I gather) the pool of liquid metal we saw the first Generation of Transformers emerge from in the G2 comics, retroactively inserting the Allspark into G1. rapier_clang.wav -Derik 17:47, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
- Given that Prime is slated to run for multiple years, it would seem that to put it under G1 would increase the size of the G1 confam past the point of it having any meaning (a point I think it is already rapidly approaching). --Khajidha 20:18, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
- Note that I am all in favor of treating Prime like a separate continuity family for now-- I just think that what's been published for it thus far doesn't warrant a separate family. I agree that it's likely that the series will diverge more wildly. If it doesn't we can debate whether to fold it into G1 at a later date. Folding-in is a much smaller logistical headache than splitting out. ("Wait and See" is a prudent watchword.) -Derik 20:48, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
- Given that Prime is slated to run for multiple years, it would seem that to put it under G1 would increase the size of the G1 confam past the point of it having any meaning (a point I think it is already rapidly approaching). --Khajidha 20:18, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
- Not to mention Gigantion, Velocitron, Barricade, Blackout, Lugnut, Armada Demolishor, Scattershot, enough Constructicons to form a herd of Devastators and Slipstream. It's not being dubbed an amalgated continuity for nothing. And the 13, whose story take place between the timelines branch... Alientraveller 17:30, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
- Universal clusters. And "Linnaean" doesn't have meaning outside biology. —Interrobang 17:27, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
- If you've seen anything of the cartoon, it's pretty much the Movie crossed with Animated, in terms of aesthetics, with a story set after "events like the movie". - Chris McFeely 16:31, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
- Massively Geewunny as it is, Exodus and WFC have been said by Hasbro to be part of the Prime continuity family. - Chris McFeely 16:01, 20 September 2010 (EDT)
Crash
Might this be the ONLY Ark that never crashed? Because it seems to me that EVERY Ark exists only to crash-land on Earth/the moon/Cybertron/the Chip Planet. Unless there have been other Arks to actually not-crash. (Because I have been wrong about such things before.) - ¡Usa El Queso! Complain here 23:57, 6 October 2011 (EDT)
- You haven't read Exiles yet, have you? --76.28.76.206 00:05, 7 October 2011 (EDT)
- No, I have not. - ¡Usa El Queso! Complain here 02:18, 9 October 2011 (EDT)