The Concept of Curiosity in The Practice of Philosophy For Children
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tal aims. The practitioners and those who prepare materials have to take
into consideration the concept of curiosity and must equip themselves
with an understanding of it.
1
The original name of this practice is Philosophy for Children (P4C). Some
writers prefer to use the phrase “Philosophy with Children” when referring to this
practice. I acknowledge both phrases and use the abbreviation “P4C” in this paper
for brevity.
2
Matthew Lipman prefers to call those textbooks “philosophical novels”.
İ. G. Altiparmak, The Concept of Curiosity in the Practice 363
P4C Session
For a better understanding of my claims regarding P4C practice, it is
necessary to know what takes place in a session. Briefly, P4C session
is defined as a typical session that consists of a group reading a source
text, followed by the gathering of students’ questions stimulated by
the reading.4 There are certain elements in a P4C session, and these
are indispensable factors of a session; namely, Socratic Dialogue, the
Facilitator, and Community of Inquiry.
All these distinctive factors have different and complementary roles.
The discussion method is grounded on Socratic Dialogue. Originally in
Socratic dialogues, Socrates is “tirelessly pursuing intellectual inquiry
by method of question and answer” (Kahn 1998: 72). Bringing this type
of dialogue into the session helps children to enhance their dialogic
skills, to hear each other’s ideas and to make inquiries. “The dialogic
skills the Socratic Dialogue employs are listening, formulating and re-
formulating, asking for clarification, checking for understanding, fol-
lowing on from probing assumptions and explicating them, abstracting
and concretizing” (Knezic et al. 2010: 20).
In the Socratic method of systematic questioning and dialogue, chil-
dren are encouraged to talk and listen to each other within a communi-
ty of inquiry that is not controlled, but is facilitated by the teacher. The
P4C practitioner is called a facilitator because she is not in a position of
transferring knowledge. On the contrary, the facilitator is responsible
for leading the sessions in order to enable children to experience philo-
sophical discussions and to gain equity for talking and sharing as well
as for the use of compatible discussion plans, exercises and activities.
This is also pointed out by Murris, she says: “the philosophical dimen-
sion of an inquiry depends, to a large extent, on the facilitating skills
and attitudes of the teacher” (Murris 2000: 40).
The children and the facilitator engaged in a Socratic Dialogue
constitute a Community of Inquiry, abbreviated as CoI. With all its
3
Although the concepts discussed in the sessions are mostly philosophical,
there can be concepts or issues that are not philosophical; such as the concept of
“cooperation” or “work”. The issue of what a philosophical concept is, is a topic in
itself. Nevertheless, philosophical questions could be generated from the concepts of
cooperation or work. The underlying issue here is that the children are philosophically
discussing them in the sessions.
4
You can find the definition of a P4C session and more information on the
website; www.p4c.org.nz.
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and analyzed it. By this, he came to a conclusion that the fox deceived
the gingerbread man. After child B gave him a reply, child C and D
joined the conversation. One of the members continued this discussion
by saying that;
D: The fox lied because he wanted to eat the gingerbread man.
Without this lie, he could not eat the gingerbread man.
C: So, he lied.
D: Yes, but he lied for himself.
F: We have to be honest and say everything. But if we protect
someone or try to save our life, hiding is not lying.
Facilitator: Is lying always a bad action?
G: There are different types of lies. For example, we tell pink lies.
Telling pink lies is not deceiving. We tell pink lies for making
our friends not to feel sad.
D: When we lie for our interest, no, this is not bad.
E: But it is bad for the gingerbread man!
D: But it is good for the fox. What could he do?
F: Something good for you can be bad for some others. So this is a
bad thing, you should not do that.
The children helped each other as being the members of the inquiring
community to differentiate the concepts and make them clear by giving
arguments, introducing new concepts and examples. Introduction of
“pink lies” was followed by the conceptualization of lies as black, pink
and white later in the discussion. They discussed cases and had ethical
discussions on whether lying is always bad or not. While child D legiti-
mized the action of lying, children E and F opposed to this legitimiza-
tion. The session enabled a realization of the inostensibility of the con-
cept of lying in ethical terms so that they asked questions and shared
their opinions about this concept. Constructing definitions for familiar
words and formulate concepts precisely is challenging. Throughout this
session, the community of inquiry tried to construct definitions for the
concepts in question and formulate them.
To make my argument clear, I would like to give another example
from a P4C session that I facilitated. In this session, the topic of discus-
sion was cooperation. The book that we read was about creativity and
cooperation.11 The characters achieve something good and favorable by
way of cooperating with each other. While we were discussing the con-
cept of cooperation, one of the members said that;
W: Thieves cooperate to steal. However, stealing is a bad thing.
This sentence reduced the members of the inquiring community who
were discussing the issue enthusiastically to silence. Every member
began to think about this remark. Although we were discussing the
cases where cooperation is not working and is not productive, none of
11
The material of this session was the book called Swimmy. Lionni, L. (1963).
Swimmy. New York. NY: Pantheon.
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Attention Grabber
For children to be curious apprehending that the concept in question
is inostensible, that is an awareness of ignorance, is necessary but not
sufficient. To become curious, the child has to pay attention and more-
over, feel interested in the topic. The session and the materials have
to be arranged with respect to drawing the attention of the children to
the concept and making them feel interested in it. The important thing
is to prepare the materials according to the cognitive levels of children.
The materials help us present the concepts to the community of inquiry
at the beginning of the sessions. The important thing is to prepare the
materials according to the cognitive levels of children. The materials
and the way the concepts are presented have vital roles for the sessions
because the children pay attention to the concept and to the sessions
by means of the materials and their presentation. Paying attention will
prepare the way for a realization of the inostensibility of the concept.
For fulfilling this realization in children, first, the materials have
to draw their attention. According to Lipman, “the child has little fu-
ture to count on; they only know that the present makes sense or does
not make sense, on its own terms. This is why they would appreciate
having educational means which are meaning-laden: stories, games,
discussions, trustful personal relationships, and so on” (Lipman 1978:
256). If the materials designed according to the needs and cognitive
levels of the children are presented in the classroom, it becomes easier
to draw their attention to the concepts. Typically, short stories or pas-
sages from stories are used in the classroom in order to present the
concepts or the issues. Other materials such as videos, toys or skits
may well be used in the sessions in order to bring a concept to the class
and take their attention. In relation to that, “attention grabber” seems
374 İ. G. Altiparmak, The Concept of Curiosity in the Practice
a suitable umbrella term for P4C materials whether they are books,
passages, short stories, videos or skits. The aim of these materials is
to draw the attention of the children to the philosophical concepts or
issues contained in these materials.
For drawing the attention of the children not only the material itself
but also its presentation is influential. During the presentation of the
attention grabbers, it is useful to ask one or two questions for clarity.
When there are unclear or ambiguous points, it will be hard for the child
to grasp the issue, keep his interest, and thus become curious. Before
pondering on the concept, the child has to understand the content of the
material. Asking questions during the presentation of the material is
practical also to engage the distracted children to the story. The ques-
tions for summing up, such as, “what has happened so far?” and the
questions for emphasizing connections between two things are helpful.
As mentioned before, in the session example the video of a story
book was presented. The video includes lively images, colorful scenes
and animal characters. These make the video an appealing material for
children and thus, the community of inquiry watched it with enthusi-
asm. It was successful in drawing children’s attention because it was
appropriate for children’s ages and cognitive levels.
After the presentation, one of the children asked “how can a gin-
gerbread man run faster than a horse?” This question was about the
material. Another child asked “how does the gingerbread man believe
the fox who is a natural liar?” This question indicates that he under-
stood the story and questioned the actions of a character. What is the
difference between these two questions? In both cases, children paid
attention to the video. However, the child who asked the second ques-
tion both paid attention to the material and felt interested in the is-
sue. Both questioners were in an attempt to understand. However, the
child who asked the second question was curious about the issue which
opens a way for the discussion about the concept of lying.
Being perplexed may well be the case for the child who asked the
question “how can a gingerbread man run faster than a horse”. It seems
that she was perplexed about the logical issue such as how a cookie can
run faster than a horse. The distinction between curiosity and perplex-
ity is worth noting here. Perplexity is for the good of arousing curiosity.
When a child is perplexed, she is more likely to ask questions that are
supposed to make the issue clear for her. Children could ask questions
out of perplexity when they are in need of clarification. A perplex child
is also the attentive child who cares about the topic and needs a clari-
fication because she is on the way of grasping the issue. It is necessary
for the facilitator to take into account the reasons behind children’s
questions so that the facilitator could make the clarifications. It is use-
ful for the facilitator to distinguish between curious states and perplex
states of the child so that she could put an end to her perplexity. When
İ. G. Altiparmak, The Concept of Curiosity in the Practice 375
Joint Attention
Thus far, I claimed that for catching the attention of the children, the
materials and their presentations play crucial roles. The materials
that are suitable for both introducing the philosophical concepts (or
concepts that can be discussed philosophically) and drawing children’s
attention to the concept act as attention grabbers in the session. At
this point, providing the analysis of the concept of attention is going to
be useful. Paying attention individually and paying attention jointly
in a group or community are regarded as two different aspects. Since
children are members of an inquiring community in P4C sessions, joint
attention comes to the forefront.
Joint attention is used and defined by developmental psychologists
and linguists: joint attention which occurs when a group of people per-
ceive the same object together is attributed to mind functions in which
we understand the intention and goal-directed behaviors of other peo-
ple around us. Its effectiveness for improving human capacities is prov-
en (Timothy 2010; Kidwell and Zimmerman 2007). In a famous study
that is conducted on mothers and their children, Tomasello and Farrar
indicated that “during periods of joint attentional focus both mothers
and children talk more, the dyad engaged in longer conversations, and
mother used shorter sentences and more comments” (Tomasello and
Farrar 1986: 1459).
If we are striving for getting children to be curious and developing
their thinking and social skills, it is better to establish joint attention
during the session. Joint attention smooths the way for the members
of the community of inquiry in engaging to all parts of the session.
Joint attention must be established if the objectives of discussing in
a community are supposed to be reached. By means of joint attention,
members affect each other in a positive way and this enables more
sound and fruitful dialogues, conversations and discussions. Thus, it is
expected for an attention grabber and in general the session, to create
joint attention in the community of inquiry.
As aforementioned, every child, who pays attention, is not necessar-
ily curious about the topic in question. Paying attention and being curi-
ous are relational; however, paying attention is not always followed by
curiosity. If arousing curiosity is an aim of the session, then, I propose
that it is meaningful for an attention grabber to create joint attention,
and also be a curiosity-arouser. For the effectiveness of a P4C session,
it is more anticipated for the material to function as a curiosity-arouser.
For the effectiveness of P4C sessions, it is more anticipated for the ma-
terials to be a curiosity-arouser. To fulfill this, the materials and the
session have to make children feel interested in the topic.
376 İ. G. Altiparmak, The Concept of Curiosity in the Practice
Interest
In order for an attention grabber to be considered a curiosity-arouser,
children have to feel interested about the content of it. As İnan puts it
“to become curious one must also have an interest in the topic that the
concept is about” (2012: 42). The relationship between curiosity and
interest is a uni-directional one. “For everything we are curious about
we have an interest, but we are not curious about anything we have an
interest in” (İnan 2012: 126). A curiosity-arouser has to draw children’s
attention to the concept, make them feel interested in it, enable a real-
ization of the inostensibility of it and thereby, arouse curiosity.
Although drawing the attention of the children to the concepts pos-
es no difficulty with the proper materials, accomplishing the task of
both drawing their attention to the concept and arousing their interest
require greater effort. In order to accomplish these, it could be better
to introduce the philosophical issues or concepts that children are al-
ready acquainted with. Discussing concepts which children have been
instructed during other lessons or they encounter in their daily life
arouse their interest more easily. “Children look for meaning and they
are hungry for those that might be relevant to-and might illuminate-
their lives” (Lipman et al. 1980: 17). In this manner, discussing the con-
cepts that they are acquainted with would help enabling the children to
feel interested in those concepts.
Joint Curiosity
İnan’s conceptualization of curiosity elucidates the need of fostering
curiosity in P4C sessions. According to his theory, a child’s realization
of the inostensibility of the concept together with her attention and
interest get the child to be curious about it. I would like to introduce
a new concept to this picture with regard to P4C sessions. In a P4C
session, there is a special type of curiosity which is different than indi-
vidual curiosity. The term joint attention shows us that there is a fair
amount of difference between paying attention and paying attention
jointly regarding their outcomes. Joint attention is more influential for
developing skills and creating a sound communication. Taking into ac-
count the positive outcomes of joint attention, joint curiosity could ap-
pear to be more effective in comparison with individual curiosity, for
developing more fruitful discussions and creating a more productive
inquiring community. It seems the P4C literature and the literature
on curiosity could be enriched by a concept which I would like to name
joint curiosity. It is naïve to expect a philosophical study about joint
curiosity when there are too few articles on Philosophy of Curiosity.
For P4C, the ideal could be establishing joint attention and joint
curiosity during the sessions. Similar to attention and joint attention
cases, joint curiosity could be more effective for a sound discussion com-
pared to individual curiosities. Children listen to each other’s thoughts,
İ. G. Altiparmak, The Concept of Curiosity in the Practice 377
ideas, experiences and questions with curiosity and hence, the session
creates powerful discussions in which there is questioning out of curi-
osity. Theoretically, if joint attention is a more effective tool than at-
tention, then joint curiosity would be more effective than individual
curiosities in the sense of sharing, questioning each other’s thoughts
and building up ideas, and therefore would lead to more effective dis-
cussions. There would be more members who are willing to participate
to the discussions. The more the community of inquiry enjoys joint cu-
riosity, the more in-depth questions and fruitful discussions will come
out. When there is joint curiosity during the sessions, building up onto
each other’s sayings and asking questions to each other could bring
more fruitful discussions and analyses.
I would like to explain further the concept of joint curiosity with a
conversation from the sample session. As I said before, we were dis-
cussing the concept of lying and the community of inquiry differenti-
ated the concepts hiding, secrets and lying from each other. The con-
versation went as follows:
A: A close friend of mine saw me talking with another friend. She
asked me what we talked. I cannot tell her because we have
talked about her birthday party organization. It would not be a
surprise to her if I tell her our conversation! So I told her that
we spoke about something else. This is not a lie because we were
trying to make her a surprise. This is keeping secrets.
C: Keeping secret is not lying. Sometimes when you keep secret,
you do it for the sake of the other people such as the case in the
birthday example. The same thing happened to me and I was the
birthday boy!
A: Don’t you feel angry when they didn’t tell you what they talked
about?
C: Yes, I get angry at that moment but then they told me that they
were talking about which birthday present they will buy. When
I learn this I didn’t feel angry anymore. Also when I get the pres-
ent I felt happy.
A: Sometimes boys come near and ask us what we did talk about.
When there is a secret there, I don’t say it. I have to keep it be-
cause this is a secret and I have the right to keep it.
B: But this is telling a lie. Why don’t you just say this is a secret so
that I cannot tell you?
D: Yes I agree with B. Why don’t you tell the truth?
A: (thinks for a while) Because they will not give up and let me go.
They will harass me about it.
B: Have you ever tried to say this to them?
A: No, because if I say this, they won’t leave me alone.
D: How will you know this without trying?
A: (feeling uncomfortable, starts to move on her chair) I’m sure this
will happen.
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Acknowledgments
I would like to thank the people who have helped me in the process of
writing this paper. I had the chance to share some of my ideas present-
ed in this paper on Philosophy of Curiosity Conference at University of
Maribor in April 2015. I would like to offer my special thanks to Nenad
Miščević and Smiljana Gartner for providing me that opportunity. My
special thanks are extended to Safiye Yiğit, Günfer Mendoza, Melisa
Mendoza and Ufuk Altıparmak for their valuable comments that great-
ly improved this paper. Advice given by Safiye Yiğit has been a great
help. I would also like to show my gratitude to Boğaziçi University and
Enka Schools for opening doors throughout my studies. I am immense-
ly grateful to Ayça Boylu for all her advice and guidance that broaden
my horizon. The completion of this paper could not have been possible
without my advisor İlhan İnan, whom I would like to express my deep-
est gratitude for giving me his invaluable support and guidance and
much more, which to name here would be very long. I am more than
grateful to him for fostering my curiosity.
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