Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive243

Soibangla

No action. Salvio Let's talk about it! 13:46, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
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This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Request concerning Soibangla User who is submitting this request for enforcement Power~enwiki (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 00:13, 15 October 2018 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested Soibangla (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Search CT alerts: in user talk history • in system log Sanction or remedy to be enforced Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American_politics_2#Discretionary_sanctions_(1932_cutoff) : standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people. Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it 2018/10/14 Adds an excessive amount of non-neutral material to the lead of Donald Trump. I don't see any way that a reasonable editor could view this as WP:DUE or WP:NPOV. 2018/10/11 Poor referencing style (linking to a Tweet about a WSJ story) at Special Counsel investigation (2017–present), and conspiracy theorizing on the talk page. 2018/10/14 Adding suspicious denials to the lead section of George Soros while an RFC on the inclusion of that material was ongoing. The details of the bizarre QAnon allegations should not be included on Soros's page, and certainly not where multiple people had already objected in a discussion started by Soibangla. If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts) Notification on 4 September 2018 Additional comments by editor filing complaint Their edits at QAnon, Hillary Clinton email controversy, and Brett Kavanaugh Supreme Court nomination are all vaguely concerning, though I have no specific diffs to call out. I also note their reply regarding their addition at Donald Trump. Overall, I don't believe this editor understands Wikipedia's policies well enough to edit in the American Politics area, and request an indefinite topic ban. power~enwiki (π, ν) 00:19, 15 October 2018 (UTC) I don't intend to withdraw this; the addition on Donald Trump isn't actionable on its own, but I see a pattern of behavior here. Virtually every edit I see has a clear POV; something like this is engaging in WP:SYNTH to suggest that Republicans are somehow wrong about the War on Poverty; this is both confusing and clearly undue. power~enwiki (π, ν) 01:37, 15 October 2018 (UTC) Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested notification diff Discussion concerning Soibangla Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks. Statement by Soibangla I am beginning my statement now, but it is not yet complete, I will provide notice when it is Accusation: "Adds an excessive amount of non-neutral material to the lead of Donald Trump" It was one paragraph, three sentences, supported by three reliable sources. If there had been a consensus reached that the lede had been somehow "locked down," I was not aware of it. The added paragraph was certainly relevant to Trump's BLP, whereas the two subsequent paragraphs, which had evidently reached consensus before this apparent "lock down," are more suitable for the Trump presidency article, not his BLP. Accusation: "Poor referencing style (linking to a Tweet about a WSJ story)" The WSJ uses a paywall for most stories, so linking directly to WSJ will not allow users to check the ref. However, WSJ chooses to bypass their paywall when they tweet an article, so I linked to those WSJ tweets so users can access the whole thing. This is just the way WSJ chooses to make their content available, I am doing nothing devious. Accusation: "Adding suspicious denials to the lead section of George Soros while an RFC on the inclusion of that material was ongoing" There was nothing suspicious about it, nor was it a denial. Another user had unilaterally declared that consensus had been reached, made an edit reflecting that perceived consensus, and then I made a subsequent edit that complied with that perceived consensus. Accusation: "edits at QAnon, Hillary Clinton email controversy, and Brett Kavanaugh Supreme Court nomination are all vaguely concerning, though I have no specific diffs to call out" "vaguely concerning" but "I have no specific diffs to call out"? What does that mean, exactly? I have contributed an enormous amount of high-quality edits to WP and I find the call for me to be topic banned from American Politics to be outrageously egregious. I will have more to say, pressed for time right now. soibangla (talk) 00:34, 15 October 2018 (UTC) Statement by BullRangifer This is an absurd filing. Lesser methods of DR should be used, and differences of opinion and complaints about a sourcing style don't belong here. Soibangla does much excellent work. I think you should reserve drastic measures like this for genuinely tendentious editors. Occasional mistakes are par for the course for any editor, even the best. We deal with them on the talk pages. -- BullRangifer (talk) PingMe 02:38, 15 October 2018 (UTC) Statement by MelanieN I am WP:INVOLVED in this situation. I was the one who removed Soibangla's full-paragraph addition to the lede in the Donald Trump article, and when I took it to the talk page, I said I thought that adding it without discussing it first was "highly inappropriate". In no way did I mean that to indicate any sort of violation of the DS. Soibangla made a bold edit, it was challenged, they have not restored it - where is the violation? I am hopeful that Power~enwiki will withdraw this referral, as is being suggested at the talk page. --MelanieN (talk) 01:31, 15 October 2018 (UTC) Statement by Dave This board should be a last resort not the first!, DR or ANI is thataway →. –Davey2010Talk 01:42, 15 October 2018 (UTC) Statement by (username) Result concerning Soibangla This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above. I have to repeat what I said in response to the above request: This looks like a content dispute to me. Arbitration and AE do not resolve content disputes. If the edits are problematic from a content point of view, such as regards neutrality, accuracy, content forking, etc., then the way to correct this is consensus-building on the talk page. Content policies such as WP:NPOV do have a conduct aspect, but it normally takes a long history of problems or obvious, severe violations for them to rise to the level where AE action is needed, and I don't see this here. I'd therefore take no action. Sandstein 11:46, 15 October 2018 (UTC) I find myself agreeing with MelanieN. This topic area should be approached with caution and discussion is encouraged, however there may be room for bold edits in moderation. The reported conduct does not in my view rise to sanctionable conduct at this time, but may do if it becomes part of a longer term behavioural issue. WJBscribe (talk) 12:45, 15 October 2018 (UTC) Agree with those above. The editor made a bold edit - apparently well backed up by sources :) - it was reverted and, hopefully, will be discussed somewhere or the other. Vague comments about edits in other articles are, um, vague, and I'm surprised that an editor of power-enwiki's caliber is resorting to this sort of thing. The latest example of WP:SYNTH, though it does look like synthesis, is best discussed as a content issue. AE should be resorted to when you have a well documented case for a violation of an arb ruling and this is nowhere near that. --regentspark (comment) 13:28, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Enforcing administrator discussion – Debresser

Debresser formally warned. AGK ■ 17:38, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Opening statement by AGK I am raising this topic separately to request views from colleagues about the use of enforcement processes by Debresser. In #VanEman, immediately above, Debresser cited two diffs that were around 27 hours apart – and requested enforcement of a 1RR (one revert per 24 hours) general sanction. To be clear, I have recommended enforcement action in that case – but only as a result of different diffs of user conduct which I came across during a review of the request. In #Nableezy, above, a meritless request for enforcement was submitted. Nishidani, enforcement requested August 2018, was again closed without action. I am concerned in general at an increasing use of AE for reprisal – and, in this case, at a scattergun or careless approach to enforcement requests. AGK ■ 21:37, 13 October 2018 (UTC) Statement by Debresser I would only like to say that in my point of view, both Nishidani and Nableezy have behavioral problems, and are moderately disruptive from time to time. The fact that this forum has decided that there were no grounds for action, does not mean that there were no grounds for my reports. Just like in real life, not all court cases end in convictions. I noticed that AGK is worried about "reprisal". May I remind you that it is me, who was reported here a week ago in a clear attempt at reprisal. I myself do not have such inclinations. In addition, please feel free to research the issue, and you shall see that there simply was nothing that could have provoked me to seek reprisal. Specifically regarding VanEman, I hadn't seen him in over a year, and even that was not in the IP-conflict area. Debresser (talk) 18:44, 14 October 2018 (UTC) Most, if not all, ArbCom restrictions, like ARBPIA, include a clause about proper behavior in the spirit of community editing, not to mention decorum. Most of my reports were not about straightforward violations (like my last report regarding VanEman, which was accepted). They were specifically about editors' behavior, as in long-time patterns: editors using derogatory language (Nishidani and Nableezy), editors being pushy and ignoring the opinions of other editors (Nableezy). And in all my reports there have been admins (and certainly non-admins) who have said that there is some truth about the issues I reported, just that it is not actionable. Please check that. So a warning about what? Not to report edits that are not actionable? How can an editor know beforehand what ArbCom will deem actionable or not? Especially since were are talking about discretionary actions. By ruling time and again that there were no violations, ArbCom has effectively decided to ignore Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 3#Tendentious editing, which reads "Users who disrupt the editing of articles by engaging in sustained aggressive point-of-view editing and edit-warring may be banned from the affected articles". However, it would be completely unfair to propose to sanction the editor, who tries in good faith to uphold the rule that this forum has itself instituted. Or does ArbCom want to remove that point from its decision now? Debresser (talk) 06:10, 15 October 2018 (UTC) In reply to Huldra's comment In that WP:ANI discussion too, all commenting editors agreed that Huldra's edits were problematic, just that the closing editor decided it is a content issues, and not actionable at WP:ANI. How using misleading edit summaries is a content issue, I don't understand till this day. Debresser (talk) 06:15, 15 October 2018 (UTC) In reply to Kurtis' mention of a January report of mine I can't believe you really try to hold that report against me. We all know that trying to game the system by waiting a little over 24 hours is actionable! I was sanctioned not long before that for an edit I made after 1d3h. In view of that fact, you have to admit that at least the report wasn't unreasonable. (Especially galling was that the very same admin who sanctioned me for my revert after 1d3h refused to see as a violation Nishidani's edit after 1d5h. IMHO that was a biased decision, and not one of ArbCom's better moments.) Debresser (talk) 18:55, 15 October 2018 (UTC) Question @Kurtis Is this sequence of edits the kind of report that would be too broadly interpreting WP:ARBPIA3? Or is that reserved for "sustained aggressive point-of-view editing and edit-warring" only? Debresser (talk) 16:15, 22 October 2018 (UTC) @Roland What is disruptive about this section? It needs to be clear if Kurtis proposes reporting a straightforward WP:ARBPIA3 violation is acceptable, and wants a restriction only regarding reporting "sustained aggressive point-of-view editing and edit-warring" (since that is obviously more prone to interpretation)? That is apart from the question if other admins will endorse his proposal. Debresser (talk) 17:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC) @Roland And let's be honest, if this is indeed, as I think, a straightforward violation, then it will be very interesting to see if admins will have the moral integrity to act on it. Based on my experience with some of the admins here, I have my doubts. Debresser (talk) 17:41, 22 October 2018 (UTC) @Nableezy In reply to this edit: October 22 18:50 - October 22 09:16 = 09:34 < 24h. QED. Debresser (talk) 17:44, 22 October 2018 (UTC) @Nableezy In reply to these edits: You are right. Debresser (talk) 21:35, 22 October 2018 (UTC) Statement by Kurtis I've reviewed Debresser's reports to AE over the past two years. Apart from the ones mentioned by AGK, there's also (in reverse chronological order): Nishidani (January 2018), El_C (June 2017), Nishidani again (May 2017), and finally Nishidani (October 2016). Of these, the only one that resulted in a sanction for the reported party was the 2017 AE submission concerning Nishidani, with Sandstein implementing a one-month topic ban from Israel/Palestine articles – and even then, several commenters felt that the diffs provided were not actionable. There does seem to be a pattern here, albeit a sporadic one. The question is, does it warrant a sanction at this time? Or would a final warning be sufficient? Kurtis (talk) 19:22, 14 October 2018 (UTC) @Debresser: "How can an editor know beforehand what ArbCom will deem actionable or not?" – To tell you the honest truth, a lot of it just boils down to common sense. It's inevitable that some AE reports are going to end up as borderline cases, and the decision is usually determined by factoring in things like the editor's past history, the seriousness of the violation, whether they're making a good-faith effort to learn from their mistakes, etc. But there's also an expectation that the filing party will use good judgment in submitting a report. To give an example, in January of this year you reported Nishidani for violating a 1RR restriction. The two reverts you cited were, by your own description, over 24 hours apart. At the time, the two of you were engaged in a content dispute. Bringing the situation here made it look as though you were attempting to gain the upper hand. Whether you realize it or not, this is a common thread for many of the reports you've made to AE and ANI over the past few years. Your idea of what constitutes a violation is much, much broader than that of most people. Going forward, I think it would be a good idea for you to avoid making any AE reports that aren't clear-cut cases (e.g. an editor makes multiple reverts to a 1RR article in a single day), as well as ones in which you're an involved party. I also recommend that you get into the habit of using other avenues for dispute resolution rather than escalating tensions by immediately pursuing sanctions against other editors. You'll probably find it a lot easier to get things done when you begin to think of them as collaborators rather than antagonists. Kurtis (talk) 09:26, 15 October 2018 (UTC) Statement by Huldra Just a note: Debresser doesn't only report editors to AE, he also reports you to AN/I, last time he reported me there was in July 2017. (It was closed without any sanction), Huldra (talk) 22:13, 14 October 2018 (UTC) Nope. As I said at the time: I misread "2nd century BCE" for "2nd century CE". And Debresser, without giving me any opportunity to explain, took it straight to AN/I. As I said back then, drama much? (Also, it isn't the first time Debresser have dragged me to AN/I, with no result), Huldra (talk) 20:26, 15 October 2018 (UTC) Statement by Sir Joseph This page is not the right place for this discussion. Sir Joseph (talk) 18:04, 16 October 2018 (UTC) Statement by Serialjoepsycho These sanctions are set up as a destructive way to end disruption that has not been reasonably taken care of by other means. When sanctions are placed the situation is generally, "enough is enough". If this is becoming a game that is in itself highly disruptive. Everyone here is a volunteer, from editor to admin but we don't have a shortage of editors. The opinion however has been bumped around a time or two that we have a shortage of admins. Admins time aside we also don't want to run off good editors. If -insert any editors name- is coming here for retaliation or any nonsense then the appropriate action should be taken, what ever that may be. A warning, the stated purpose of this noticeboard, or some punitive action. Case by case due to the facts of the situation.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 07:54, 17 October 2018 (UTC) Statement by RolandR Surely Debresser's latest comments above[1][2][3] are a breach of his topic ban, and an an egregious example of IDHT behaviour, fully justifying the original post by AGK? RolandR (talk) 16:40, 22 October 2018 (UTC) Statement by Icewhiz @RolandR: - Debresser isn't under any topic ban, you should strike your assertion. Icewhiz (talk) 16:46, 22 October 2018 (UTC) Statement by Nableezy Uhh, Debresser, you claim the revert you made was undoing a "straightforward WP:ARBPIA3 violation". That kind of demonstrates the point that you have no idea what an ARBPIA3 violation is, the edit you reverted was emphatically not a revert. You just did a blanket revert without even a semblance of an explanation, and have as of yet declined to even pretend to justify it anywhere. You seem incapable of actually identifying what a revert is, in addition to the problem of understanding exactly how long 24 hours is. nableezy - 17:40, 22 October 2018 (UTC) Yeah, the problem there is my edit wasnt a revert. It doesnt touch what Shrike reverted at 06:16, 22 October 2018‎ UTC. That you bring it up here is yet another example of what this section is about. You bringing up totally and completely bogus "violations". nableezy - 18:22, 22 October 2018 (UTC) Discussion among uninvolved admins Yes, we do see Debresser quite a lot here with, as far as I can recall, often non-actionable requests. I wouldn't object to a restriction against making new AE requests. Sandstein 11:40, 14 October 2018 (UTC) Because discussion among admins has died down and we are back to the usual unhelpful pattern of recriminations among involved editors, I'm closing this thread. Any admin remains free to take whatever action they deem appropriate. Sandstein 07:26, 23 October 2018 (UTC) I have procedurally re-opened this in order to enforce. I will close in short order. AGK ■ 17:22, 23 October 2018 (UTC) Whether it is retaliatory or not, there is a clear pattern of poor/inappropriate reports to this noticeboard. I would prefer a strong warning however, with a restriction on AE requests if the problem continues. WJBscribe (talk) 12:48, 15 October 2018 (UTC) I am enforcing as follows: On a number of occasions, Debresser has improperly presented requests for arbitration enforcement. Taken as a pattern, Debresser's actions are an abuse of process that is serving to inflame tensions in topic areas that already are heated. Furthermore, whilst Wikipedia process pages are internal, conduct such as abuse of process itself, indirectly, affects the external topic area that is subject to arbitration enforcement. Conduct such as Debresser's is therefore equivalent in seriousness to tendentious or disruptive editing of content pages. I therefore formally warn Debresser that continuing such conduct will result in enforcement action, such as restrictions from requesting enforcement, blocks, and topic bans. This action will be logged as an enforcement action for future reference. AGK ■ 17:32, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

13zmz13

Blocked for a week. Sandstein 11:21, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Request concerning 13zmz13 User who is submitting this request for enforcement Huldra (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 20:44, 21 October 2018 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested 13zmz13 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Search CT alerts: in user talk history • in system log Sanction or remedy to be enforced WP:ARBPIA3#500/30 : Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it 11:53, 21 October 2018 editing an article clearly under WP:ARBPIA3#500/30 (see Talk:Shurat HaDin), in spite of only having 116 edits 11:55, 21 October 2018 same 12:25, 21 October 2018 same If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts) Mentioned by name in the Arbitration Committee's Final Decision linked to above. Previously blocked as a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict, see the block log linked to above. Previously given a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict on Date by Username (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA). Alerted about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, see the system log linked to above. Gave an alert about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on Date Participated in an arbitration request or enforcement procedure about the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on Date. Successfully appealed all their own sanctions relating to the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on Date. Additional comments by editor filing complaint I (and another editor) have tried to make 13zmz13 understand that they shouldn't edit the IP articles (see here), alas they seem to think that rules are only for lesser mortals than themselves. Huldra (talk) 20:44, 21 October 2018 (UTC) Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested Notified, Huldra (talk) 20:48, 21 October 2018 (UTC) Discussion concerning 13zmz13 Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks. Statement by 13zmz13 I have yet to receive even one iota of evidence that suggests Shurat HaDin is "related to the Arab-Israeli conflict"... 13zmz13 (talk) 07:05, 22 October 2018 (UTC) Statement by Shrike I wonder why user:Huldra nor user:Zero0000 did not warn in similar manner other user User:Spiny Norman that edited the same article [4] --Shrike (talk) 07:26, 22 October 2018 (UTC) Statement by RolandR Shrike asks why Huldra and Zero warned 13zmz13 but not Spiny Norman. Maybe this is because SN has made just one, minor, edit to the article while 13mz13 has so far made fifteen POV edits, and reverted repeatedly. And note that one of 13mz13's recent edits was a reversion of a self-correction by Zero of a typo; this is the essence of edit-warring and blind reversion. RolandR (talk) 11:02, 22 October 2018 (UTC) Statement by Zero0000 This article is about an Israeli organization that fights "Israel's enemies" (mostly Arabs and Iranians) by means of law suits. Of the law suits prominent enough for their own article sections, approximately 75% directly concern the Arab-Israeli conflict. So the claim by 13zmz13 that it doesn't know the article is "related to the Arab-Israeli conflict" is absolutely unbelievable. Even the specific section edited by 13zmz13 (most recently with an additional revert after this case was filed, also violating 1RR) concerns a law suit against "Palestinian solidarity activists". Please give this contempt for the truth the reception it deserves. Zerotalk 10:47, 22 October 2018 (UTC) Statement by (username) Result concerning 13zmz13 This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above. Shurat HaDin is entirely related to the Arab-Israeli conflict because it describes an organization which deals primarily with legal issues related to that conflict. 13zmz13's conduct and insistence to the contrary is disruptive. 13zmz13 is blocked for a week. Sandstein 11:20, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

ScienceApe

Science Ape is indefinitely topic banned from Elizabeth Warren for bludgeoning and unpleasantness on article talk and edit warring at the article. The user may appeal the ban no more frequently than every six months. (by User:Bishonen)
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This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Request concerning ScienceApe User who is submitting this request for enforcement Galobtter (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 15:56, 21 October 2018 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested ScienceApe (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Search CT alerts: in user talk history • in system log Sanction or remedy to be enforced WP:ARBAPDS Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it 21 October 2018 You're inability to understand a strawman fallacy reveals quite a bit of how low your IQ must be - personal attack 21 October 2018 Knock off the obvious biased white knighting - personal attack 21 October 2018 Stop with the idiotic strawmanning and white knighting first.; Oh you're the white knight etc - personal attacks Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts) Alerted about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, see [5] Additional comments by editor filing complaint These personal attacks by itself show this editor needs a break from Elizabeth Warren (or a block) at the very least, but he has also engaged in edit warring (4 [6][7][8][9] reverts in 30 hours), where he cried "synthesis" despite being explained how the source supports the sentence, and his conduct at the section shows self-evidently poor behaviour and ignoring what the sources are saying or people's responses. Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:56, 21 October 2018 (UTC) Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested Discussion concerning ScienceApe Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks. Statement by ScienceApe Statement by (username) Result concerning ScienceApe This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above. I agree with the filer. Science Ape is indefinitely topic banned from Elizabeth Warren for bludgeoning and unpleasantness on article talk and edit warring at the article. The user may appeal the ban no more frequently than every six months. Bishonen | talk 16:14, 21 October 2018 (UTC).

Onceinawhile

Onceinawhile topic banned, 3 months. AGK ■ 21:58, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
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This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Request concerning Onceinawhile User who is submitting this request for enforcement Shrike (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 20:11, 2 November 2018 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested Onceinawhile (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Search CT alerts: in user talk history • in system log Sanction or remedy to be enforced Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel_articles#General_1RR_restriction : Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it 27 Oct 2018 First introduction of text. 02 Nov 2018 Revert after text [10] was removed not waiting 24h Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any Date Explanation Date Explanation If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts) Participated in an arbitration request or enforcement procedure about the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on [11]. Additional comments by editor filing complaint The provision in question is pretty clear If an edit is reverted by another editor, its original author may not restore it within 24 hours of the first revert made to their edit..It was violated Also there is an issue of WP:OR most of the edits by this user including this diffs doesn't even mention the neologism that is topic of the article including diff in question.It was clearly done to WP:POVPUSH and constitute WP:TE.If admins interested I could provide additional diffs that user use sources that don't mention the neologism. --20:11, 2 November 2018 (UTC) @Power~enwiki: Because only they broken the provision its his revert that violated our polices and started the edit war.Had he waited 24H and discuss this wouldn't happened --Shrike (talk) 20:21, 2 November 2018 (UTC) Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested [12] --Shrike (talk) 20:13, 2 November 2018 (UTC) Discussion concerning Onceinawhile Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks. Statement by Onceinawhile I was not aware of the change in the rules. The banner was changed in a subtle but important way in May this year, ostensibly to clarify that the 24-hour rule for new edits applies from the point of the revert, not from the point of the original edit. I now see the change at ARBPIA took place even earlier than this, but it was not put on the banner until May this year. No-one ever notified me of these changes to ARBPIA, and I don't have the banner on my watchlist. I am not sure how I am supposed to keep up with these changes, but I apologize for not doing so. If I had been informed of the rule, I would have immediately self-reverted. I would like to make a show of good faith now, but I am not sure how I can. The only evidence I can offer is that that revert was my last edit to the page, and I did not participate in the ensuing edit war. I made 20 edits to the talk page instead. As to powerenwiki's comments, the nominator's subsequent participation in what had by then become a classic edit war puzzled me, because he and I had reasonably constructive set of discussions during the prior week on the article talk page, with no suggestion that he objected to the 5,622 bytes of information now in question, and also because he made no subsequent talk page contribution to justify his change of heart. Onceinawhile (talk) 20:59, 2 November 2018 (UTC) One reflection on the rule - it starts "If an edit is reverted". Is the word "edit" supposed to capture new content as well as changes to existing content? I have been thinking about what the rationale might have been for this new rule; I presume that the spirit of the new rule related to the age-old problem of identifying which was the "first revert". I had never imagined that the addition of new content to a new article could be considered as a "first revert". It all seems very strange to me, but I commit to ensure full compliance going forward. Onceinawhile (talk) 21:31, 2 November 2018 (UTC) Statement by power~enwiki I see at least 6 different editors edit-warring over this change. Why is this the only editor that should be subject to Discretionary Sanctions? power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:16, 2 November 2018 (UTC) Statement by (username) Result concerning Onceinawhile This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above. I accept Onceinawhile's submission that, wrongly, they did not think ARBPIA § General 1RR Restriction is counted from the most recent revert – rather than from their own last edit. Nevertheless, as power~enwiki noted, Enclave law was in the throes of an edit war. Onceinawhile contributed to disruption of this article when they reverted. An enforcement sanction therefore appears unavoidable to me. I am topic-banning Onceinawhile, for 3 months, from pages related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. power~enwiki's broader point is unconvincing: this noticeboard cannot decline to enforce because "A was bad, but B and C were too." Given the topic areas we typically see here, many enforcement requests would need declining if enforcing administrators took that approach. AGK ■ 21:54, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Malik Shabazz

No action taken. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:40, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
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This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Request concerning Malik Shabazz User who is submitting this request for enforcement Icewhiz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 09:25, 7 November 2018 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Search CT alerts: in user talk history • in system log Sanction or remedy to be enforced WP:ARBPIA#Discretionary sanctions : specifically, violation of TBAN imposed by DS.[13] Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it 03:04, 7 November 2018 - removal of ArbCom Arab-Israeli enforcement notice from talk page. The Land of Israel#Modern usage, Land of Israel#History, and Land of Israel lede contain conflict related material - the notice is not off topic (one may possibly claim that removing an ARBPIA notice from a clearly unrelated page (e.g. Thrombosis) would fall under an exemption - but in this case the notice is clearly applicable to significant parts of the page). 03:12, 7 November 2018 - article itself is closely related to the conflict. The edit itself removed "Zionist baby killers" as a cited example of contemporary antisemtism - the phrase itself being conflict related. The diffs below are possibly stale and less clear cut, but are presented to show a possible pattern of edits around the conflict during the TBAN: 14:43, 20 October 2018 - conflict related - edit cited BLP exemption. Possibly stale, added to show possible pattern. 03:52, 18 October 2018 - edit to The Electronic Intifada which is intrinsically conflict related. Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any 17 August 2015 - 48 hour block for "Repeated personal attacks and incivility" 20 January 2017 - 4 day block for "To enforce an arbitration decision and for your personal attacks on others ("dickhead", "moron") in the context of discussions about the WP:ARBIPA topic area" 12:47, 23 May 2018 TBANed from ARBPIA for 6 months. 3 June 2018 Warning of TBAN violation. 6 July 2018 Blocked 31 hours for "To enforce an arbitration decision and for personal attacks at the Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard". 09:07, 30 July 2018 - blocked two weeks for "topic ban violations, incivility and personal attacks". 10:31, 30 August 2018 - blocked 72 hours for personal attacks. If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts) Previously given a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict on 12:47, 23 May 2018 by Sandstein (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA). Additional comments by editor filing complaint This complaint is about the 7 November edits - the October diffs are possibly stale and are are not as clear cut, however they were added to show a possible pattern. In regards to the conflict relatedness of diff2 - a reasonable interpretation of "Zionist baby killers" is that the implied nationality of the babies in question is Arab, particularly since the cited WaPo source for that stmt continues in the same paragraph to say "...dismissing Jewish students as “Zionist baby killers.” At rallies on college campuses, speakers regularly list “Zionists” in the same category as white supremacists and Nazis. Progressive leaders circulate lists of acceptable Jewish organizations, including only those that do not address Israel or that define themselves as Palestinian solidarity groups." - tying this to I/P.Icewhiz (talk) 13:33, 7 November 2018 (UTC) addendum - in 12:35, 7 November 2018 Malik Shabazz used the edit summary "rv vandalism" when reverting a mandatory notice of this AE filing against him. I will note that the AN/I complaint leading to the last block on 30 August - ANI archive 991 section - mentions a previous use of such language in relation to a mandatory notice.Icewhiz (talk) 13:58, 7 November 2018 (UTC) Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested diff Discussion concerning Malik Shabazz Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks. Statement by Malik Shabazz Despite Icewhiz's assertions, every mention of the state of Israel is not related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. If Sandstein had intended to ban me from anything related to Israel, I think he would have said so. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 12:34, 7 November 2018 (UTC) As usual, Sandstein, you focus on form instead of substance. Adding an ARBPIA template to a page doesn't make the page related to the Arab-Israeli conflict, nor does removing a misplaced template. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 13:58, 7 November 2018 (UTC) Icewhiz forgot to mention that I broke the speed limit at least three times on my way to work this morning. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 15:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC) Statement by Nableezy I very much disagree with the notion that removing an ARBPIA template from a page where it does not belong and was added without discussion by an involved editor in the topic area is covered here. If an uninvolved admin decides that a biblical concept is part of a conflict that began in the last hundred years or so then they can do it, but that is not what happened here. The second diff is wholly unrelated, neo-Nazis in the United States not exactly being a part of the Arab-Israeli conflict. nableezy - 16:37, 7 November 2018 (UTC) Also, Icewhiz is here reporting straight reversions of vandalism as meriting sanctions. That is about as bad faith as an AE request gets. He reports this reversion of an editor who has, citing "eye for an eye", made a couple of vandalism edits (here and here) in response to a favored website being listed as Islamophobic (removing that here). Takes a special kind of bad faith to report that, so much so me thinks a boomerang is in order. nableezy - 16:43, 7 November 2018 (UTC) Statement by WarKosign While Sandstein is correct in noting that "it is conceivable that there is non-Arab antisemitic anti-Zionism", the edit in question was removing reference to this article, which discusses anti-Semitism in regard to I-P conflict. Moreover, the user was banned from editing "anything related to the Arab-Israeli conflict", and while anti-Semitism can be practiced by anyone, it is very much related to the conflict. “WarKosign” 12:21, 8 November 2018 (UTC) Statement by (username) Result concerning Malik Shabazz This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above. The request has (partial) merit. The topic ban does not cover a "mention of the state of Israel", but rather the Arab-Israeli conflict. The edit in the second first diff at issue pertains to text that relates to that conflict. Specifically, Malik Shabazz removed the template {{ArbCom Arab-Israeli enforcement}}, which describes the discretionary sanctions that apply to the Arab-Israeli conflict. But the first second diff is not actionable because it concerns "antisemitic anti-Zionism", i.e. antisemitic opposition to the state of Israel, which in and of itself does not relate to the Arab part of the Arab-Israeli conflict. In other words, it is conceivable that there is non-Arab antisemitic anti-Zionism. I would therefore take action only with regard to the second first diff and invite admin comments about what to do. Sandstein 12:57, 7 November 2018 (UTC) I'm somewhat unconvinced here, because yet again it's someone immediately jumping on a possible violation by an editor whose edits they oppose. A far better thing is to discuss it with the editor concerned, suggesting they revert rather than running off to AE. For example, here's an edit that I made on User:יניב הורון's talk page suggesting that they may want to back away from that subject. That editor hasn't contravened their topic ban since. My inclination here would to be to warn the editor about any edit that skirts round the edge of their topic ban. Black Kite (talk) 18:08, 7 November 2018 (UTC) Having reviewed only the November diffs, I'm unconvinced a sanction is required. I'm not terribly happy about the template removal, but really the substance of that topic is not ARBPIA related, and it requires some real nitpicking to believe it should be sanctionable simply because it involved an ARBPIA template. That said, I would recommend that Malik avoid such a removal in the future. Vanamonde (talk) 18:15, 7 November 2018 (UTC) I don't think it showed the best judgment to remove the template, but I also agree that we don't need to sanction for it. Seraphimblade Talk to me 22:09, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

1l2l3k

There is no indication that 1l2l3k was made aware of discretionary sanctions prior to the violations. By being the subject of an AE request, 1l2l3k is, going forward, considered aware and advised to comply with any discretionary sanctions in place. If anyone believes that sanctions against the filer are warranted, this should be the subject of a separate request. Seraphimblade Talk to me 20:28, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
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This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Request concerning 1l2l3k User who is submitting this request for enforcement Gobulls (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 17:27, 7 November 2018 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested 1l2l3k (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Search CT alerts: in user talk history • in system log User:1l2l3k Sanction or remedy to be enforced Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel_articles#General_1RR_restriction: Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it Each editor is limited to one revert per page per 24 hours on any page that could be reasonably construed as being related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. If an edit is reverted by another editor, its original author may not restore it within 24 hours of the first revert made to their edit. [14] Revert after text [15] was removed not waiting 24h [16] First introduction of text. Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts) The user is well-aware. The page is in the middle of an edit war and one user has been suspended for it already. Mentioned by name in the Arbitration Committee's Final Decision linked to above. Previously blocked as a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict, see the block log linked to above. Previously given a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict on Date by Username (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA). Alerted about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, see the system log linked to above. Gave an alert about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on Date Participated in an arbitration request or enforcement procedure about the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on Date. Successfully appealed all their own sanctions relating to the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on Date. Additional comments by editor filing complaint I don't understand how to request it. This is my first time, and I would like some assistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gobulls (talk • contribs) (I've moved this post here from the admin section where it was misplaced. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:18, 8 November 2018 (UTC)) Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested I have notified him on his talk page. Discussion concerning 1l2l3k Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks. Statement by 1l2l3k My two reverts were done at a distance of 4 days, not 24 hours. The first one was on 2 November and the second one on 6 November. Still, I self reverted, after seeing this report, for the sake of the peace among wikipedians who are discussing in the talk page, in order to promote a better working environment, and also since the reporting party is so upset about my revert. Further, when a discussion is ongoing, the reporting party should refrain from making edits, that's why I did my second revert (4 days after the first one). Also, I don't see any diffs above in his report to be able to say anything else. I'll get back to this report when the diffs are clearer as to what exactly I did wrong. --1l2l3k (talk) 17:47, 7 November 2018 (UTC) Statement by Icewhiz Not a violation - 1l2l3k didn't originally author anything - he reverted on 2 November, and again on 6 November - and regardless self reverted. In addition, one should note that filer has engaged in personal attacks and casting aspersions - on the Wikiproject Palestine page - 16:38, 6 November 2018, had edited in violation of the general prohibition on 18:03, 23 October 2018 (becoming extended confirmed due to subsequent editing on unrelated topics), and has also played loose with 1RR - performing reverts 24 hours + 13 minutes apart - 15:59, 5 November 2018, 16:12, 6 November 2018. Icewhiz (talk) 18:00, 7 November 2018 (UTC) Statement by Shrike The user was never notified of the sanctions in the ARBPIA This case for WP:BOOMERANG per ICEWHIZ diffs.Also before the filing I left notice[17] on his talkpage to strike his personal attack instead and remove violation of WP:CANVASS instead doing that he filed AE action. --Shrike (talk) 07:16, 8 November 2018 (UTC) Result concerning 1l2l3k This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above. Cleaned up the format of the request and moved a comment by Gobulls to their section as it was misplaced in this one. No opinion otherwise. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:18, 8 November 2018 (UTC) Gobulls, for sanctions to be possible, you must show that the editor against whom you are requesting sanctions has been made aware in one of the prescribed ways. I do not see that the editor has received a discretionary sanctions alert ([18]), so unless you can show awareness in one of those ways, not just by asserting they are, this complaint will have to be dismissed. (Of course, by having been the subject of an AE request, 1l2l3k will be considered aware going forward, but they must have been aware at the time the claimed violation occurred.) Seraphimblade Talk to me 22:11, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Warkosign

Not actionable (deficient request). Sandstein 13:44, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
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This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Request concerning Warkosign User who is submitting this request for enforcement Gobulls (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 01:15, 12 November 2018 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WarKosign Search CT alerts: in user talk history • in system log Sanction or remedy to be enforced Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/CASENAME#WP:A/I/PIA : WP:A/I/PIA Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it November 11, 2018 violating revert (in my opinion, from my understanding of the situation) November 11, 2018 original revert November 10, 2018 original author Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any Unknown If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts) He was aware of the rule, as is evident here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment&diff=prev&oldid=867566165 Mentioned by name in the Arbitration Committee's Final Decision linked to above. Previously blocked as a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict, see the block log linked to above. Previously given a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict on Date by Username (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA). Alerted about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, see the system log linked to above. Gave an alert about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on Date Participated in an arbitration request or enforcement procedure about the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on Date. Successfully appealed all their own sanctions relating to the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on Date. Additional comments by editor filing complaint Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested I informed him on his talk page. Discussion concerning Warkosign Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks. Statement by WarKosign Gobulls did not specify what my supposed violation is, so I can't respond to that. This is the second time in less than a week the user fills a garbled enforcement request against an editor that happens to disagree with them. As with 1l2l3k above there doesn't seem to be any real violation. The user misinformed you that they notified me about this request: the user wrote on my talk page that they might report me, but not that they actually did. I was surprised to find my name here after responding to the message on my talk page. Please review Gobulls's behavior. To me it seems that such an inexperienced editor is not supposed to be editing in the area at all due to 500/30: they have 610 edits, 87 of them on I/P articles and many of these made before they had 500 edits. They have battleground mentality, accusing users who happen to disagree with them of vandalism and sock puppetry, reporting first 1l2l3k and then me for bogus violations. The user repeatedly inserted ([19] [20] [21]) the same content despite several editors explaining on the talk page that it violates NPOV. “WarKosign” 10:39, 12 November 2018 (UTC) Statement by Jonney2000 Someone should warn Gobulls (talk · contribs) about making inaccurate complaints.Jonney2000 (talk) 08:57, 12 November 2018 (UTC) Statement by Icewhiz Diff #2 in Gobulls's report is misleading, as Gobulls's "original revert" was on 15:57, 10 November 2018. Gobulls reverted the content a second time on 17:32, 11 November 2018 - which is misleadingly labelled as the "original revert".Icewhiz (talk) 13:32, 12 November 2018 (UTC) Result concerning Warkosign This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above. I am closing this as not actionable because the request is too confused for me to make out which specific remedy has allegedly been violated, and why. Sandstein 13:43, 12 November 2018 (UTC)