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This document summarizes the key points of a proposal for a new metro train system (CR151) based on modifying an existing train design (R151). Some of the main proposed changes include: - Increasing the car height and modifying the door pitch and window size. - Adapting bogie and other components from an existing bogie (B23). - Revisiting the floor design to meet fire safety and noise requirements. - Integrating roof-mounted air conditioning units and making other interior modifications. - Proposing control, auxiliary power, and braking systems from existing product definitions. The document outlines technical challenges and investigations needed across subsystems to realize the

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Cqecs 23 Rca

This document summarizes the key points of a proposal for a new metro train system (CR151) based on modifying an existing train design (R151). Some of the main proposed changes include: - Increasing the car height and modifying the door pitch and window size. - Adapting bogie and other components from an existing bogie (B23). - Revisiting the floor design to meet fire safety and noise requirements. - Integrating roof-mounted air conditioning units and making other interior modifications. - Proposing control, auxiliary power, and braking systems from existing product definitions. The document outlines technical challenges and investigations needed across subsystems to realize the

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System Product Req

TC1500 Bogie
Control (Forced
Cooled) 
Auxiliary power
Battery

• B23, Wheel diameter new/worn 850 / 775 mm


Bogie & Drives • 1500v Motor, Integrated to WABTEC Brake
• Integration proposal similar to R151
• Mechanical integration of B23 with Carbody is under investigation.

BRAKE

Pantograph

TCMS
VAC
GANGWAY
Passenger DOOR
System Engineer Solution Ref LCC GAP

ORRHEDE Mats

BERTRAND Pierre
Anuradha/chandra

B-23: G Arun-Rahul

MOULESWAR REDDY S
chandra/soumya
NEL MOULESWAR REDDY S
chandra/Anuradha
K P RAVI
TAMAL
Lavanya
Avniash e llan
Sub System

Carbody

Floor

Cabin Design

Interiors

Windows &
Windscreen

Bupesh ER

VAC

Passenger Door

Detrainment Door

Couplers
Gangway

Traction power system

Auxiliary power system

Battery

Bogie & Drives

Brake & Air Supply

Lighting

Fire Detection System


Pantograph

TCMS
CR151 Requirement Proposed Product Definition

Aluminium Carbody, Follow KE, Uniform Door Pitch

DT =23.65m ; M1/M2 R151 carbody + Delta adaptation


=22.8m

Not specific Respecting Fire Barrier limits and noise

Driverless - GoA4 Driverless , No cab Partition Jurong/NEL Cab Design

Floor Height 1110mm Ceiling Height 2100mm R151 Interior Design : Aluminium structure floor/
Pleasant, quality-built interior, for ease of Aluminium honeycomb Ceiling / Diagonal Duct ;
maintenance HL3 interiors

Double glazed, Glued


Double Glazed, Rubber R151 Window
Joint Cab Window new addition

Roof mounted Compact 2 Unit/car Need to fit within build gauge


50 kW per VAC,

5 Ext Sliding Door / car;


1400 x 1900 mm; SIL 4 1400 x 1900

GoA4; 1120 x 1900 mm; SIL Same as R151; 1120 x 1950 mm


4, Windscreen

770mm from TOR Schaku Type 35 Support SBIS

Coupling speed 8km/h


R151 + Adaptation
Split type Gangway Width
= 1600mm New solution

Height = 1950mm Noise = 40dB

Bogie Control Traction (Naturally Cooled preferred,


Forced cooled accepted) Traction emergency TC1500 Bogie Control (Forced Cooled)
autonomy

At least 2 Aux per train, Battery charger per car,

AC = 10% margin DC = 20% margin 4 Aux per train

Ni-Cd (or alternative) Naturally ventilated

Battery per car (min 80 cell), essential loads for 60


mins, DC

= 10% margin Battery Traction compatibility in Depot/Mainline

Battery Traction = 10% margin

16T, TBU, Primary Susp-open (rubber/coil), Max B23


Wheel base- 2500m, WFL, ODD
Wheel diameter new/worn 850 / 775 mm

Op Speed: 90 km/h Design Speed: 100 km/h Max Bogie Control brake with redundancy, IP based
Acc: 1.1 m/s² (TRDP*) interface
Max. Jerk Rate: 0.65m/s3

Rated V. / Power: DC110V / 15.5 W to 34 W


Colour Temp : 5000K±300K Similar to R151

Comply with EN54-5, EN54-7. SIL2 compliant


FDCU redundancy Similar to R151
Panto well mounted, follow KE Well mounted

A 4-position PCS for pantograph control. Pantograph


Troubleshooting directory
Remote Troubleshooting Assistant
Remote troubleshooting via CSS workstations
Cyber Security, SIL 2
ATI ,Switching on/off and control of ATI Agate4 refsol
equipment
Proposal/Remarks
•     5 Ext Sliding Door and Roof integrated VAC (single unit) & Pantograph integration

•     Car height to be increased to 3830 which will result in new Roof Extrusions.

•     Door pitch and window size to be modified.


•     Passenger door cut out (clear opening height 1900) increased in Carbody.
•     B23 Bogie Interface – new Bolster & Solebar extrusions
•     Carbon Steel Bolster – new Bolted concept of Bolster integration with Solebar feasibility study.
•     TCQ to be raised on relaxing gauge limits

•   Revisit the Floating Floor based on Fire Safety (60 min Fire Barrier) & acoustics performance (Int Noise <85dB) requirem

•     Alternate Floor concept is under investigation.


•     New (reference NEL/CCL or SDTL/Jurong).

•     Driver Desk integration with cover, conceptually Jurong.

•     Removal of Cab Cabinets, Cab Partition Wall.


•     Feasibility of temporary Barricade staps mounting at cab trims under investigation
•     Optimal design changes and comparison for CR151 interiors individual commodities prepared &
evaluation changes being shared through TPS.

•   Conceptually R151 Interior solutions to be carryover, though we have dimensional changes to adopt 5 Door and new V

•     Interior Ceiling integration for compact VAC being studied along with Interiors expert.
•     Passenger Seats, Underseat Cabinets, Draught Screens, Passenger Supports TPS shared.
•     Glued Mounting. No risk identified. TPS shared.
•     Window size Adaptation (width reduction & qty increase)
•     New Cab side Window added.

hat it is complete or correct or will apply to any particular project. This will depend on the technical and commercial circum

•     CR151 VAC load calculation prepared (~50kW per VAC) P8 EVO baseline as product definition.
•    CBS adaptation : Maximum volume of VAC under investigation accordance to Build Gauge along with Ducting size simu
•     VAC initial size calculated to 4200x1650x400mm.
•     TCQ to be raised for challenging unrealistic temporal data and gauging limits.
•     New PAD height adaptation. (R151 : 1400 x 1850)
•     TPS inline to CR151 for standardise passenger pass door shared.
•     R151 or use NEL 851E,CCL, DTL (based on supplier offer)
•     No SIL4 solution available, TPS is in progress
•     Glass window (windscreen) in Detrainment door required as per RFP

•     Automatic coupler - compatibility to couple mechanically, pneumatically & electrically


•     Intermediate Coupler removed and replaced with SPC
•    Revisit condition to couple trains on a combined horizontal curve of radius as small as 140 m and a vertical curve of rad
& force diagram.
•     Quick latching, double skin, 2-piece gangway, interior lining
•     Width increase will impact to end cabinets – reduced width of end cabinets or re-orientation of
cubicle to be investigated. ((R151 = 1500mm x 1940mm; Noise = 33dB)

•    TCQ to be raised to understand the intention of 40dB, R151 test supports to achieve 40db, Brain model will bring more

•   TC1500 Product is getting developed

•   Compatibility with Agate4 solution


•   Battery Traction demand compatible to 1500V DC traction supply

•   Proposal is to have 4 (DT & Mi) Aux converter at 6 car level to avoid variability in underframe and reliability/availability

•   Estimated Aux load value at train level as on today is 2 x ~240 KVA

•   Estimated Battery sizing per car level as on today ~250Ah

•   KWH consumption for Battery Traction as per RFP is under evaluation.

•   Technical evaluation of compatible battery technology is under progress.


•   TPS shared.

•     B23, Wheel diameter new/worn 850 / 775 mm

•     1500v Motor, Integrated to WABTEC Brake


•     Integration proposal similar to R151
•     Mechanical integration of B23 with Carbody is under investigation.
•     Bogie Control brake with redundancy, EP direct brake system. IP based (TRDP*) interface

•     Tread brake units, Oil Reciprocating compressor.

•     Compatibility with IP based interface being discussed with Supplier.


•     Creep Mode and JOG mode to be added.
•     Remote Isolation request in RFP to be added.
•     PWM interface need to be investigated separately.
•     No risk/change identified. TPS sent.
•     Main Interior Lighting contains both: General lighting and Emergency lighting
•     Failure of one unit cannot cause loss of entire unit and decrease in illumination level
•     Materials meets flammability and smoke emission requirements
•     Light fittings are robust and less prone to degradation with external dirt
•     TPS sent.
•     Point-type MD; No spurious alarms tech
•     Linear Heat detection - Detects the heat increase in technical areas.
•     The 2 MD’s are placed in the return air path & near the vicinity of VAC Connector.
•     The other 2 MD’s are placed in the Saloon area, 1 MD is additionally placed in DT car Front
Desk

•     NEL Pantograph to be considered for integration, investigation in progress.

•     TPS shared.


•     No Dual Homing, I/O redundancy. No SSIL2, Safety functions managed via hardwire
•   Comparison table for CR151 requirements inprogress against R151 and AGATE4 refsol

•     Strategy for Agate4 implementation is being prepared

•     Challenges like Subsystem interface (Agate4 TCMS interface, IP/TRDP based) need
to be investigated
•     TPS Sent for Master Controller, PACIS & Event Recorder
System Engineer Solution Ref

RRTS/ML3 is the closet. There are few (5)NC as per


TAMAL ROY
System Engineer. Internal discussion is on going
ML3

Avinash Mohanavelan ELLAN

Lavanya No discussion
BERTRAND Pierre

Anuradha/chandra R151

ORRHEDE Mats
NEL MOULESWAR REDDY S chandra/Anuradha NEL

K P RAVI
Supplier LCC

Kings (expected) new solution to be developed

no discussion started No
no discussion started
NEL /webtec
GAP

size, weight, capacity,treatment is an issue.

Few NCs are shared in clarification sheet


here it is 250Am in r151 there was 190Am.
Emergency load for 5 days variaotion in R151 its
was 2 days
no NC
Systems System Engineer
TRACTION MOTOR NOT SURE
PANTOGRAPH
SALOON VAC SYSTEM
BATTERY SYSTEM
MASTER CONTROLLER Praveen Mishra
PACIS Praveen Mishra
CCTV Praveen Mishra
DETRAINMENT DOOR
LIGHTING SYSTEM
ROOF EQUIPMENT’S
CAB EQUIPMENT’S
SALOON EQUIPMENT’S
UNDERFRAME EQUIPMENT’S
LV CUBICLES
AT product AUX CONVERTER NOT SURE
PASSENGER ACCESS DOORS
MAIN TRANSFORMER
BOGIE  AND SUSPENSION FBO
GANGWAY COMPLETE
COUPLERS & DRAW GEAR
AGTU
BRAKE Saumya RANJAN
DRIVER SEAT
PASSENGER SEAT

TRACTION CONVERTER

HIGH VOLTAGE EQUIPMENT’S


TCMS NOT SURE
HVAC Tamal ROY
Reference Project CR151 LCC Make or Buy in Ref LCC
SMSWA 
NEL
ML3
R151
CCL /NEL
CCL /NEL
CCL /NEL
R151
R151
NEL
R151
R151
R151
R151

R151
NA
ML3 (B23)
R151 + Delta (width)
R151
R151
R151
NA
R151

R151 only of it is bogie control (controller to be replaced by Agate4)

R151
SMSWA 
ML3
Make or Buy for CR151
Articulated cover to be requested in DFS for driver desk
Check windows are policorbonete, if yes to be considered in the costing.
to check the sil level of the PAD R151 vs CR15
To record trhe supplier details in the control sheet.
ered in the costing.

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